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post 1656608673 02-21-2022, 05:08 PM
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Russia playing 4d chess

https://www.rt.com/russia/550170-put...kraine-speech/
Russian President Vladimir Putin has announced that Moscow has recognized the two self-declared breakaway Donbass republics in Ukraine’s east as sovereign nations, as a military standoff across the contact line continues to escalate.

Speaking as part of a televised address to the nation on Monday evening, Putin signed the decree, saying that “I deem it necessary to make a decision that should have been made a long time ago to immediately recognize the Donetsk (DPR) and Lugansk (LPR) People’s Republics.” Lawmakers will now be asked to consider statements of friendship and support with the two regions.
Putin clearly understands the significance of 4GW. By planting a rhetorical flag directly in the Evil Empire’s language of freedom, democracy, and self-determination, and recognizing both republics on those grounds rather than simply annexing them, Putin has ensured that Russia will hold the moral high ground in the event war breaks out in the region.

Russia has the military means to quickly and easily defeat Ukraine, but as I have pointed out since 2015, the Russians really do not want to deal with the hassle of occupation and empire. And it isn’t only Russia that will be protecting the two new sovereign nations, as I doubt it will be long before China officially recognizes them as well.

Unless the USA and the EU do likewise, their utter hypocrisy and lack of adherence to their own proclaimed principles will glow like a Fed at a patriot rally.

UPDATE: The Russian military will secure the peace in the newly independent nations. Hearts and minds.
President Vladimir Putin has ordered the Russian military to “secure the peace” in the newly recognized Donetsk and Lugansk republics, which were formerly considered to be part of Ukraine.

Moscow officially recognized the independence of the two breakaway regions on Monday.

Putin has instructed the Defense Ministry to send peacekeepers into the Donbass, while telling the Ministry of Foreign Affairs to establish diplomatic relations with the states.
The neoliberal kiddy fiddling elites that have controlled the west since ww2 fear the sino-Russian alliance
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post 1656609503 02-21-2022, 05:29 PM
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That's interesting because with all that's going on I was just thinking Putin clearly understands the significance of 4GW. By planting a rhetorical flag directly in the Evil Empire’s language of freedom, democracy, and self-determination, and recognizing both republics on those grounds rather than simply annexing them, Putin has ensured that Russia will hold the moral high ground in the event war breaks out in the region.

Russia has the military means to quickly and easily defeat Ukraine, but as I have pointed out since 2015, the Russians really do not want to deal with the hassle of occupation and empire. And it isn’t only Russia that will be protecting the two new sovereign nations, as I doubt it will be long before China officially recognizes them as well.

Unless the USA and the EU do likewise, their utter hypocrisy and lack of adherence to their own proclaimed principles will glow like a Fed at a patriot rally.

UPDATE: The Russian military will secure the peace in the newly independent nations. Hearts and minds.

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post 1656609553 02-21-2022, 05:30 PM
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Doesn’t matter if Russia recognizes them because no one else does.
post 1656609793 02-21-2022, 05:34 PM
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I think if Russia walks away with those two territories and leaves the rest of Ukraine alone (for now), we will think we won. I wonder if that’s all they wanted this time around. Would be a much smoother takeover than crimea. Playing the long game without requiring any conflict.

Once they militarize those areas Ukraine falls in future years without conflict too.
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post 1656609973 02-21-2022, 05:39 PM
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Originally Posted By exxtracool⏩
Doesn’t matter if Russia recognizes them because no one else does.
Except for the United States just placed sanctions on the separtist controlled regions of the Ukraine, barring any US corporations or individuals from doing business there. How is that not recognizing them?
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post 1656610063 02-21-2022, 05:40 PM
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Originally Posted By exxtracool⏩
Doesn’t matter if Russia recognizes them because no one else does.
like western powers hold any clout anymore. Our leader is a joke. The EU has been a joke for a while.

Unless you want our young men to die for no good reason, we have no real interest there, just Biden's person piggy bank.
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post 1656610253 02-21-2022, 05:44 PM
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Originally Posted By exxtracool⏩
Doesn’t matter if Russia recognizes them because no one else does.
lmao the government of the separatists republic recognize it and russia recognize it. As long as we don't do anything about it it's as real as it gets
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post 1656610483 02-21-2022, 05:48 PM
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Originally Posted By Ramoneb87⏩
Except for the United States just placed sanctions on the separtist controlled regions of the Ukraine, barring any US corporations or individuals from doing business there. How is that not recognizing them?
that doesnt mean anything. for a state to be independent, its government has to be formally recognized under international law by a certain percentage of UN nations (if i recall correctly).

imposing economic sanctions on a specific area or person or business, it not a recognition of sovereignty.
post 1656611013 02-21-2022, 06:02 PM
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Wasnt the US allied with ped0phile war lords in Afghanistan? AFAIK the Taliban was killing the ped0s who kept Bazha Bazi boys as sex slaves and the US was bribing the with viagra to keep them as allies

Pretty odd that the US government is talking about right and wrong now
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