Im from Australia, dont really know much about wars and stuff but i know both usa and russia are powerful

Who wins in an all out war, if they gathered all their ally countries. Who would be the strongest allies of each side?

No bias please, vote for which country you think deep down wins, not which one you want to win

With no nukes involved EU and USA combined forces would roll over Russia

With nukes everyone would lose, but USA might come out in slightly better shape to rebuilt whatever is leftover, assuming nuclear fallout doesn't end the world.

Definitely nukes = everyone loses

Once nukes are launched, civilization as we know it is over. If Russian or US mainland is hit by nukes, submarines will surface and unload their nukes destroying the rival nations.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rCfjD18nk_Q

Strong comprehension of radioactive fallout

we all know how reliable AK gun are.

well i'm not going to antarctica. i had a dream once there was a nuclear explosion and i went outside to face it. i wouldn't want to hide and deal with the fallout later, and i'm not going to antarctica. what would i really do? a dream is a dream but in reality maybe i would cry for my mommy maybe

Nationalistic nations will roll over diverse and multicultural societies that are already too torn and divided about petty subjects.

China will show extreme savagery to their enemies, you can already see it in how they cook and boil dogs alive in huge pans. Russians are sociopathic by nature and will kill you with pleasure and rape your wife and children while laughing and highfiving their comrades while sippin vodka. Iranians who are sick of it all and non-atheist will go as far as blowing themselves up to rid the world of the West for a reward in heaven.

The West would first need to get united and rallied up properly and take out the buttplugs out of cheeks before they can stand against anything right now.

I put all my money on the East.

LOL thanks for the neg soyboy. But who was nuclear winter, famine, radiation.. Sure some people would be able to survive but it will involve a lot of luck and preparation.. You on the other hand will surely perish from pure stupidity

Politicians on both sides.

Well it would be US and our allies vs Russia AND China along with their allies.

I believe it'd probably be a coin flip. Depends on so many things. Neither side is "wasting" the other. The hardest part would be invading the US. We have by far the best Navy, By far the best Air force and we're surrounded by oceans

Neither side wins in a war retard

so planet of the apes type chit? the least educated and least intelligent survive.

no one would win, is it hard to comprehend MAD?

In an all out war, we're all fkd because nukes will launch

In real speak, this could just be similar to Crimea where we just have more disputed territory filled with armed rebels/troops
In which case, Russia would see as a win. Ukraine gonna be like that Tiger King meme, never gonna financially recover from this

N/A because the losing side will launch the nukes and even the score real quick to zero-zero.