Log In

Your email is not your username

Register

If you were a member of the old Bodybuilding.com forums and would like to reuse your previous username, you can request it below. We use your email only for registration and do not store it. For more information, please see our Privacy Policy.

Confirm your email

A registration code was sent to your email. Enter it here.

Welcome

You have successfully setup your account.

Sign in

Quick Navigation Bottom Misc
Forum
» Why is it racist to let a judge remand a defendant for "dangerousness"?
  1. Results 1 to 6 of 6
post 1657329853 03-04-2022, 10:10 AM
-
#1
  1. DanteEdmond
  2. Registered User
  1. DanteEdmond
  2. Registered User
  3. Join Date: Jun 2019
  4. Age: 56
  5. Posts: 6,521
  6. Rep Power: 29635

Why is it racist to let a judge remand a defendant for "dangerousness"?

Here in NYC, Eric Adams asked the folks in Albany to change the bail laws. Specifically, he thinks judges should be allowed to consider a defendant’s “dangerousness” when deciding if bail is to be offered. That means a judge may decide to keep someone in jail if the judge thinks someone may commit more crime if released (currently, judges can consider only flight risk factors)

The left-wing folks have attacked Adams for his request, claiming that a "dangerousness" standard would be racist

One group said: “Adding a ‘dangerousness provision’ to the existing bail statutewould only cycle more Black and Latinx New Yorkers through our broken and punitive criminal legal system, feeding mass incarceration" ... where there is discretion, racial bias will manifest itself. Determinations based on dangerousness cannot be made free from implicit bias, and thereforeracially disparate results are inevitable."
.
.
.
But doesn't the whole system rely on the presumption that judges can refrain from racism and bias? If you can't trust a judge to handle a bail hearing without being racist, then how do you trust a judge to handle decisions about rules of evidence, jury selection, or standard objections during a trial? The criticism that dangerousness = racism is basically a criticism of judges
post 1657330053 03-04-2022, 10:14 AM
-
#2
  1. Visel
  2. Progression
  1. Visel
  2. Progression
  3. Join Date: Jan 2019
  4. Posts: 13,618
  5. Rep Power: 85588
So if I'm a kungfu master and am trialed in court, I could not be offered bail because I am a weapon in itself?
post 1657330533 03-04-2022, 10:21 AM
-
#3
  1. Softworn
  2. Glow Supremacist
  1. Softworn
  2. Glow Supremacist
  3. Join Date: Dec 2007
  4. Posts: 20,674
  5. Rep Power: 32807
He is implying the "dangerousness" would be based on crime statistical data which makes it seem like he has access to other data.

"It's not racist, but it could be" is what I think he is saying.
🤡 Honk-Pilled 🤡
🏎️ Race-Pilled 🏎️
post 1657330733 03-04-2022, 10:24 AM
-
#4
  1. AlfBundy
  2. Undocumented User
  1. AlfBundy
  2. Undocumented User
  3. Join Date: Sep 2021
  4. Posts: 14,517
  5. Rep Power: 96372
I'd love to put a white liberal in some danger
post 1657330823 03-04-2022, 10:27 AM
-
#5
  1. DanteEdmond
  2. Registered User
  1. DanteEdmond
  2. Registered User
  3. Join Date: Jun 2019
  4. Age: 56
  5. Posts: 6,521
  6. Rep Power: 29635
Originally Posted By Softworn
He is implying the "dangerousness" would be based on crime statistical data which makes it seem like he has access to other data.

"It's not racist, but it could be" is what I think he is saying.
I think dangerousness would be up the judge's discretion (as it is in 49 states and the federal government). Judges would use the person's criminal history, the details of the alleged crime, and their sheer intuition / gut to decide if the person should be held in jail
post 1657331603 03-04-2022, 10:41 AM
-
#6
  1. Softworn
  2. Glow Supremacist
  1. Softworn
  2. Glow Supremacist
  3. Join Date: Dec 2007
  4. Posts: 20,674
  5. Rep Power: 32807
Originally Posted By DanteEdmond
I think dangerousness would be up the judge's discretion (as it is in 49 states and the federal government). Judges would use the person's criminal history, the details of the alleged crime, and their sheer intuition / gut to decide if the person should be held in jail
OP was asking how a person who thinks everything is racist would interpret as worded in title and quote.
🤡 Honk-Pilled 🤡
🏎️ Race-Pilled 🏎️
Quick Navigation Top Misc
Bookmarks
Digg.com
Digg
del.icio.us
del.icio.us
Stumbleupon.com
StumbleUpon
Google.com
Google
Facebook.com
Facebook
Posting Permissions
  1. You may not post new threads
  2. You may not post replies
  3. You may not post attachments
  4. You may not edit your posts