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post 1658923703 03-31-2022, 11:15 PM
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Holy fuark...raging at our justice system

Don't you *******s make this about race. This is about our ****ing joke of a justice system. I just watched an episode of 'See no Evil on hulu/ investigation discovery - season 6 episode 10.

Carleous Clay: Clay had a long record in Michigan, including a 2009 armed robbery in Grand Rapids when he shot a man in the head. That victim survived.

"He had served less than half of an 11 year sentence for attempted armed robbery."

While on parole, he burglarized, abducted, raped, tortured, strangled, and set on fire Diane Pranske.


https://thecinemaholic.com/where-is-diane-pranske-now/

she was attacked by Carleous Clay, a neighbor she had never met, who was in the middle of ransacking the residence. He threatened her with a hammer, forced her into the trunk of her car, and drove to Indiana. Once there, after he used her bank cards to withdraw some cash, Carleous brought them to an abandoned building in Burns Harbor. He subsequently assaulted Diane, choked her, stabbed her, soaked her in lighter fluid, and ignited a fire. As she burned alive, Carleous walked away.

Diane was ablaze for a total of five minutes and seventeen seconds, and throughout that time, she was trying to extinguish herself by patting down or rolling around in the nearby grass. The surveillance cameras around caught all this and more. Then, realizing that she needed help, Diane somehow managed to walk for half a mile until she reached a McDonald’s, where someone called the emergency services. Fortunately, days later, as she was being treated for her injuries, Carleous, who had fled to his girlfriend’s home, was located and arrested.


The victim:

Her long time boyfriend devotes his life to her as her care taker. She's not able to eat, shower, and is confined to a wheel chair.

The perp:


Our justice system is absolutely ****ed. I can't comprehend how someone that shoots another person in the head can plea down and serve just half of a joke of a sentence. There is blood on everyone's hands that was involved in the plea and sentencing. He should have been locked away for life after shooting someone in the head. When the **** will our justice system help protect society by actually imposing harsh sentences for violent offenders. I am raging over our joke of a justice system.
post 1658923763 03-31-2022, 11:18 PM
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Violent criminals should really just be executed. You got your one chance to be a normal person and you blew it. Time to eat a bullet.
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post 1658923943 03-31-2022, 11:25 PM
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Let me guess, liberal democrat court?
post 1658924393 03-31-2022, 11:40 PM
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It's a huge problem. Aside from victims and their families/loved ones, I think no one understands this problem more than cops (might be by bias). I hate when I arrest someone for burglary/robbery,etc. and learn that they've been arrested for similar things 10, 20, sometimes 30ish times. It's absolutely ridiculous. Of course, this doesn't mean they've been convicted of everything, and also doesn't mean they didn't get all the sentences served concurrently, and then released early on probation - similar to what OP was eluding to.

We need more prisons. Sorry libs, but America has unique problems and comparing our prison population to Norway just isn't going to do us any good. More prisons, fill em up. God knows there are people in the country that deserve to be in there. More parole and probation officers and more social workers attached to them to help get them right when they're released back into the wild. With this added help, should absolutely come added punishments for violators.

We also really need to focus on stopping single parent households, all these kids raised without father figures, and stop incentivizing idiots having more children for profit and getting more government handouts. This is as much of an issue as the police targeting high crime areas leading to people living (and committing crimes in those areas) growing up with a record/justice system issues.
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post 1658933763 04-01-2022, 06:48 AM
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Turns out this pos was placed in a home that neighbored his victims house without her knowledge. The ministry that "reforms"violent people are culpable as well for not sharing this information with neighbors.

Violent people have no place in a civilized society.

Agreed with the above. We need more prisons. We need stiffer sentences for violent acts. I also can't comprehend concurrent sentences.... it's all a joke. Meanwhile innocent people are being victimized by violent people that served a soft sentence.
post 1658934743 04-01-2022, 07:16 AM
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Wait'll OP finds out the "justice system" is just a business.
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post 1658935203 04-01-2022, 07:25 AM
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If all crimes were punishable by dick removal via F250 & a long ass rope I could promise you guys like this would think twice about it...

And female offenders... idk... fill her monkey full of portland cement and sew it shut
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post 1658936773 04-01-2022, 07:53 AM
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post 1658942183 04-01-2022, 09:25 AM
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The people responsible for his release should be held accountable for his actions as well. Promise you that when these parole board members and judges realize they might end up in prison or some type of action that will effect them negatively this won't happen. At least not very often.

I know a girl who was raped, and I don't mean date raped I mean guy forced himself in her home, beat the hell out of her and raped her something serious and they caught him and it was his 3rd offense and had been convicted of the same thing only a year earler but only served 6mo in jail.
post 1658943773 04-01-2022, 09:55 AM
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Originally Posted By Jasonw1178
The people responsible for his release should be held accountable for his actions as well. Promise you that when these parole board members and judges realize they might end up in prison or some type of action that will effect them negatively this won't happen. At least not very often.

I know a girl who was raped, and I don't mean date raped I mean guy forced himself in her home, beat the hell out of her and raped her something serious and they caught him and it was his 3rd offense and had been convicted of the same thing only a year earler but only served 6mo in jail.
People do need to be held accountable for atrocious and harmful decisions. They are largely responsible for enabling violent people to reoffend. I honestly cannot fathom the desire for leniency on violent people. I cannot wrap my head around it. They've already wrecked people's lives so now we're going to release them after a short sentence and they will likely reoffend and ruin more lives. This should not be a political stance. You would think the left and right would be in lock step for stiffer penalties, but they are not. Crazy world.
post 1658944463 04-01-2022, 10:10 AM
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Originally Posted By Rajc
i think the USA really needs to start cracking down extremely harshly on these cases because there is too much degeneracy going on in the USA right now srs

they need to sweep the dirt all in one go, be extremely ruthless with the punishments and be done with it - the US justice system allowed this chit to go on for too long
My thoughts exactly. Violent criminals run the streets freely in the US because the consequences are too soft. We need to put an end to this
post 1658945233 04-01-2022, 10:31 AM
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It could be worse, this could have happened in the UK where second time around he would get "life" which means he'd probably be out in 15 years.
post 1658945783 04-01-2022, 10:43 AM
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There are a few factors at play.

-Prosecutors may not have a strong enough case for guaranteed conviction so they work a plea.
-Prosecutors don't want a L on their record if its not a slam dunk so they work a plea.
-Prosecutors have a large case-load and can't take them all to trial so they take as many pleas as possible.



If you don't like it go to law school and become a prosecutor for the government. Its not an easy job and they make 10X as much in the private sector so go figure. You've really gotta care about justice to do the job long term.
post 1658945823 04-01-2022, 10:44 AM
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i've been saying it.

we need capital punishment like singapore does.

no ****ing around for druggies or murderers.
post 1658945983 04-01-2022, 10:47 AM
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post 1658946523 04-01-2022, 10:58 AM
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why shouldnt it be about race OP? theres a strong correlation between melanated skin and inhuman behaviors
post 1658947233 04-01-2022, 11:12 AM
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Thank God that this monster has been given life plus 10 now. It shouldn't have taken this women's horrific torture for him to be locked up for good though (hopefully). He was already a violent felon who had blown multiple chances at proving he was at least semi-civilized.

Phuck these insane, liberal criminal reform laws which just result in violent thugs going back out into the streets to commit more crime. Lock them up and keep the law abiding majority safe.
Cook the man some eggs!
post 1658953423 04-01-2022, 01:17 PM
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Too bad she didn't have a gun. She could have saved herself a lot of pain and rid the world of this garbage.
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