-Work hard for 6.5 years on bachelors degree
-Get job interview scheduled
-Do great on initial screening
-Do great on Hackerrank test
-Final interview comes, doing great for the first 35 mins, final question is random programming challenge by someone with a thick accent and I come up with a solution that is not effecient

No job offer

This industry truly sucks idk why I did this to myself LMAO

Thats pretty common. If you're in california the IT/biotech jobs are endless. Its normal to apply to 15-20 jobs everyday in a month and only get an offer for1 interview.

The interviewing process is awful but salaries are high for decent work-life balance vs somewhere like finance.

What was the programming question?

LOL, then you will interview with a company that is not full of deck heads and you will get a job.

Yea it’s just crazy how you make one small mistake whether it be O(n^2) solution when they wanted O(n) solution automatic no offer after months of interviews lol!!Thanks brah trying to move on !

Very true it is gonna be worth it once you’re in and then when you’re in the recruiters come calling left and right but the initial job search is brutal. The working from home options these days is awesome too can’t complain about that

It had something to do with a machine that makes several cuts on a pole and I had to determine whether it was possible to continue to make the cuts throughout the operation based off of some constraint but to be completely honest when it comes to exactly what the question was asking I was having a really hard time understanding exactly what he wanted. So I just ended up telling him I would create a list of all possible permutations of the cut sequences and do a loop to check through each of them to test if it’s possible which is very bad solution in terms of time complexity but I really did not fully understand what he meant when he explained the problem

Also the cuts could be made in any order from the array list I believe is what he was trying to tell me

Lol hopefully I will get a shot another interview tomorrow hopefully it goes better. The interview are endless tho the job market is hot but gotta nail these interviews

I work in finance and ppl make crazy money doing not much, they literally control the money

I am at the bottom doing the donkey work with no degree and can easily make the same as a senior programmer

Financial services has always paid the most, that's why people get into it, it also mints more billionaires than anything else

There is an upper limit as a tech worker, but there is literally no limit in finance, people make millions per month and are still considered small beans

The scale of the economy is mind boggling, we have been trained from birth to be good little workers and see doctor/lawyer/tech wizard as the "top"

Yeah those might command the highest salary, but even big salary payments are a drop in the expense bucket for the masters of the economy

This is also kept as a secret, very wealthy ppl like those with hundreds of millions or billions keep all this on the down low

I'm not trying to sell finance as a career, I am just giving a bit of insight from inside the machine, it's ridiculous

The only reason I got in was because I realized it was the most efficient means of using my time as a worker

This way I don't have to spend my life selling my time just to pay bills and take on debts

The people in finance have solved money ages and ages ago and quietly run things

The US govt doesn't bail them out for pity, they literally just walk into DC and demand it from them

What are they gonna do? Close the banks? People can't get their money, can't pay bills, ATMs stop working, total chaos

Look at the Panama Papers as well, Wall Street and global finance is above all governments, he who has the gold makes the rules

But yeah take on huge student loans, make yourself a high value worker, and with a bit of luck you can work off your debts, maybe own a home

What about the lender though? What about them boys on Wall Street? That's where your loan and interest payments are going, but you are the one working til the grave

yeah interviews are the worst part of tech

If in doubt, brute force - for an inital solution at least.

You basicaly have to study for the test full of bullchit questions. You could be an experienced software engineer who writes super solid, maintainable code and get owned by a grad who writes spaghetti just because they're right out of data structures and algo classes.

What about mechanical or manufacturing engineering jobs? Are they just as hard and have to go through the same bill**** as IT and tech jobs?

Yep. Be experienced and get interviewed by some new grad who asks you some esoteric algorithm you're never going to use on the job. SAD!

Just try again somewhere else they will never hire someone lol

Go to your next interview dressed as a woman and say you’re trans guarantee you’ll get the job

Should have just asked him to try again but this time in English.

Lmao I’m getting desperate I might have to resort to this

my bro is in finance. i know there's money in it, just don't really respect it tbh

money is literally in the vein of psychology in terms of analysis. a huge field of all fluff and no substance

i respect academia and the sciences much, much more

i dont really like people that would sell me for a buck or those that put on a facade and say something different behind my back. that's kind of where i'd put sales; you have to manufacture a need and dress it up

i respect these tech tradies in here more.. but not when they go on about not doing chit and getting lots ^^ same vein as up there

and yes.. its a problem i have with my bro

Just fuking LOL at u if u cant get a software job right now. Elite compensations and high demand for engineers

u must be a low tier coder if u failed
because they are, an average college grad joining Amazon as an L4/L5 and making 220k+ just for being able to breath and code

Stemcels.

Just lol.

I just had a close colleague take a new position. He is senior level but it took 2 months and he had one interview similar to your description then a great one after that. HE is very happy about his new opportunity.

Looking a new career. What's the best way to do donkey work in finance?

Could have been a test to see if you resize that you’ve received ambiguous requirements and how you’d handle that with your customer.

As an IT guy of 25+ years, you arent going to make it if this is your attitude/approach (srs)...

One set back and your attitude is "I dun goofed"? This field is ALL about setbacks and handling failure.

...and lets be real tea. I've conducted thousands of interviews and no SINGLE question ever prevented/eliminated anyone from a position.


So this^^ is "tough love" but you better get your mind right in this field or you really arent going to make it....and I want you to make it because its a great career.

Good point having a little bitch defeatest attitude never helps any situation

You see, this is the problem with schools today. They coddle a lot of the kids and give them numerous excuses, chances, options etc to pass a class. If kids check out or don't want to bother working, you have to bend over backwards to get them to try or make an effort. If you try to do something realistic or tough love approach, you get blasted by the admin, parents, politicians etc. So then when the kids graduate and go into the real world, they suddenly see that competition matters, handling aggression or conflicts calmly is a vital skills, talking/communicating with people is a vital skills etc.

Good to know that they give second chances after a mishap thank you brah!!

Ay OP, how did you not get the job when CNBC is reporting that there are 10 million more jobs than unemployed people?

You that bad at what you do?

Edit: We also hear all the time about how tech jobs are always short staffed, because there isn't enough geeks who want to major in STEM degrees.

What's going on with you, bro?