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post 1659795803 04-17-2022, 10:55 AM
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Anyone here ever ran a marathon before?

Me and a few of my brahs have signed up to do a 26 mile marathon for charity but it's not till May 2023 so got over a year to prepare.

Haven't done any jogging for a while, last time I did it was about a year ago when gym's were closed in lockdown. Best time so far is 5 miles in 35 mins.

What's the typical training protocol to prepare and how long before I should start? Kinda chitting myself 26 miles is long af but up for a challenge.
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How can you lift and run a marathon. Runs counter to each other.

I use to run 10 miles routinely, was skinny as fk.
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Lots of marathon training programs out there. Have done three full and 13 half marathons in my time.

At the beginning don't worry about pace. It's all about mileage and getting your body used to the pounding and volume. Biggest piece of advice I can give you is ramp up slowly - like really slowly if you have that amount of time - and don't neglect recovery. Usually 4 runs a week is sufficient with one long, and three more medium mileage.

Full marathons are really hard on your body.
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Better add that extra .2 if you want to make it a real marathon.

I ran one last Saturday. There are a lot training schedules out there....find one that fits your lifestyle and follow it to a T. Do not skips long runs and have fun. You'll find out it's 90% mental.
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Did a handful of half marathons.....those that can do a full have my respect.
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Very hard to balance with lifting imo.
I have ran 3 by now and a few recreational 20+ mile distances for fun (longest distance I ever ran was 60km)

There are many different programs but I didn't follow it tbh, I just listened to the same David Goggins podcast every run whilst grinding away big miles each run (1 to sometimes 2x/ week 15-20 mile runs)
Probably not the best thing to do but I didn't really care back then.

I competed in Muay Thai during the marathons so it wasn't really a cardio thing for me; my joints were the main issue.
Shin splints + patella inflamation etc.
Be prepared for this, especially because I reckon you have a higher bodyweight than the average marathon noodle.

Also nutrition during the runs is very important; personally for me after 3 hours I literally need to eat like a sandwich with cheese or something to keep on going (especially in phases where I'm higher bodyweight/ musclemass).
Gels & just sugar for some reason don't do it for me; I use coconut oil, salty crackers, sandwiches etc.
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post 1659797963 04-17-2022, 11:34 AM
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Originally Posted By plsmire⏩
How can you lift and run a marathon. Runs counter to each other.

I use to run 10 miles routinely, was skinny as fk.
Don't see how you would lose muscle from doing a marathon/jogging aslong as you eat enough calories to make up for it and eat 1g/per lbs bodyweight protein.

But I'd imagine the training would be hard to balance with lifting, probably just stick to heavy compounds in the gym when the time comes.
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Originally Posted By plsmire⏩
How can you lift and run a marathon. Runs counter to each other.

I use to run 10 miles routinely, was skinny as fk.
Believe it or not (and this is proven in studies), long distance runners should lift heavy to maintain strength. But volume goes WAY down, it's mostly just to make sure that CNS reactivity stays in place for fatigue and your joints are really strong.
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Originally Posted By Vascularmanlet⏩
Don't see how you would lose muscle from doing a marathon/jogging aslong as you eat enough calories to make up for it and eat 1g/per lbs bodyweight protein.

But I'd imagine the training would be hard to balance with lifting, probably just stick to heavy compounds in the gym when the time comes.
did a half and a full, and you will definitely lose muscle however much you are in the gym and whatever you eat. Long endurance sessions are extremely catabolic.

I did one long run a week for 6 months, essentially adding a mile each time, at a similar pace. That should be enough to get you in the 4 to 4 and a half hour range.

Under 4 is serious running, and under 3 elite (ish). Youll obviously need to train a lot more to be doing that sort of time, so consider if its worth it to you, Running is incredibly boring.
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Originally Posted By WoofieNugget⏩
Believe it or not (and this is proven in studies), long distance runners should lift heavy to maintain strength. But volume goes WAY down, it's mostly just to make sure that CNS reactivity stays in place for fatigue and your joints are really strong.
Agreed. I've worked with many long distance runners who did both. You're main focus/training is on the pavement. Throw in a simple/effective lifting program to compliment it.
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Originally Posted By plsmire⏩
How can you lift and run a marathon. Runs counter to each other.

I use to run 10 miles routinely, was skinny as fk.
You need to be taking in enough calories to support the entire workload...I think this is where most people struggle. With that being said, if the person happens to be cutting/trying to drop some fat, they need to use a very slight deficit compared to a normal deficit.

Takes a bit of trial and error but it can be done.
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Originally Posted By kimm4⏩
You need to be taking in enough calories to support the entire workload...I think this is where most people struggle. With that being said, if the person happens to be cutting/trying to drop some fat, they need to use a very slight deficit compared to a normal deficit.

Takes a bit of trial and error but it can be done.
Yeah I'd imagine by this time next year I'll probably be cutting for summer, so I guess a slight defecit 200 or so below maintenance should be alright.
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You do not really need to train at all to simply run this far.

Training is for trying to run fast the whole time.
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Originally Posted By mesobuild⏩
You do not really need to train at all to simply run this far.

Training is for trying to run fast the whole time.
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I've done maybe 10 road marathons and maybe 20 trail marathons/ultramarathons. My best marathon time was 2:59 (4:14/km, or around 6:50 per mile).

I was lifting weights the whole time I did it. I think they are compatible, you just aren't going to be setting powerlifting PBs and marathon PBs at the same time. Long distance running punishes extra weight. You can run at any weight, but you will always run faster at a lower weight.
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Fuuuuuark no. I'd probably die.

Nothing sucks more than cardio, especially if you been inactive for a while.
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Originally Posted By tunafishha⏩
Fuuuuuark no. I'd probably die.

Nothing sucks more than cardio, especially if you been inactive for a while.
I don't mind some types of cardio like boxing/sparring even though it's pretty draining. Haven't been to the boxing gym in about two months though lol. Even cycling can be fun but I don't own a bike.

Only cardio I do now is the occasional 10-20 mins on the stairmaster at the gym. Never even use a treadmill srs.

Even though I'm generally lazy when it comes to cardio, when I actually do it I feel much better physically and mentally tbh.
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Originally Posted By plsmire⏩
How can you lift and run a marathon. Runs counter to each other.

I use to run 10 miles routinely, was skinny as fk.
the interference effect is neglible if you eat enough (especially if you're not elite).
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I just ran one at 46 years old for the first time. I am in good shape, but I had not run more than 3 miles in a decade. I opened my big mouth at a meeting and said I could probably run one. There was a bet made and I ended up running it a month later. It was not all that hard, just boring as you are not running fast, I did mine in 4:18 which is 8-9 minute miles. Everything hurt after it for a couple days, but the worst was the inside of my thighs which looked like hamburger.

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Originally Posted By mesobuild⏩
You do not really need to train at all to simply run this far.

Training is for trying to run fast the whole time.
Technically you're right but your day would seriously suck and you would be out there forever. Plus you'd very likely end up hurting yourself.

There's lots of people who walk marathons just to say they completed the distance. But it takes them 5-6 hours.
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My brother ran a marathon in the rain. I drove him home and the front seat of my car stunk for more than a week. That was all the incentive I needed to never become a runner.
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Originally Posted By WoofieNugget⏩
Technically you're right but your day would seriously suck and you would be out there forever. Plus you'd very likely end up hurting yourself.

There's lots of people who walk marathons just to say they completed the distance. But it takes them 5-6 hours.
I can't imagine I'll run all of it, especially since two of my friends doing it are skinny fat couch potato's who don't even do any exercise.

My other mate goes to the gym sometimes and is slightly fitter/has more stamina than me but even I can't see him running the whole way.

I'll be very suprised if any of us run the full 26 miles, will probably end up walking half way through even with some training under our belt lol.
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Originally Posted By Vascularmanlet⏩
I can't imagine I'll run all of it, especially since 2 of my friends doing it are skinny fat couch potato's who don't even do any exercise.

My other mate goes to the gym sometimes and is slightly fitter/has more stamina than me but even I can't see him running the whole way.

I'll be very suprised if any of us run the whole 26 miles, will probably end up walking half way through even with some training under our belt lol.
Look into walk/run protocols - typically jog ten minutes, walk one and repeat. It barely affects your time (and you don't care about that anyway) and can help get through the distance way easier. Lots of beginners do it.
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my gf does them regularly. Her training regimen is pretty strict. She doesn't miss a day, and sticks to the miles in her calendar.

I will never do one.
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Originally Posted By usera⏩
I just ran one at 46 years old for the first time. I am in good shape, but I had not run more than 3 miles in a decade. I opened my big mouth at a meeting and said I could probably run one. There was a bet made and I ended up running it a month later. It was not all that hard, just boring as you are not running fast, I did mine in 4:18 which is 8-9 minute miles. Everything hurt after it for a couple days, but the worst was the inside of my thighs which looked like hamburger.

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If your profile pic is fairly recent, then you look great for 46.

I have not done any running other than <10 mins on the treadmill for 10 years or so. It would be good to do a marathon, but I would not do more than 10km for a first as I am so out of practice for THAT kind of exercise.
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there's some free programs. but if you are serious about it, there are some coaches who can customize a running plan for you, takes out all of the guess work and all you need to do is just follow it.

https://runsmartproject.com/training...ent=footer-cta

May 2023 is pretty far out so I would just say build your capacity for a marathon first, basically just long and slow runs and build your mileage up over time. havent personally run a marathon but i've ran 8 miles in one sitting and fuark man my shins and ankles were on fire so I can imagine how bad it would be running 3x that.

i'll say this, even if you are eating enough calories, it would be stupid to think your body wouldn't change in order to adapt to the demands and needs of the body to run a marathon. yeah, that will probably involve some muscle loss to a degree. The pathways at least in part interfere with each other.
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Originally Posted By radrd⏩
My brother ran a marathon in the rain. I drove him home and the front seat of my car stunk for more than a week. That was all the incentive I needed to never become a runner.
But who was anti perspirant? I never smell after any type of cardio/heavy sweating because I actually wear deodorant lol.
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Originally Posted By Vascularmanlet⏩
But who was anti perspirant? I never smell after any type of cardio/heavy sweating because I actually wear deodorant lol.
You realize that marathon runners chit themselves right? It's like a right of passage. You can't run 26 miles unless you chit your pants occasionally. If you don't believe me just google it lol
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Originally Posted By TBO1313⏩
You realize that marathon runners chit themselves right? It's like a right of passage. You can't run 26 miles unless you chit your pants occasionally. If you don't believe me just google it lol
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