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post 1660977443 05-09-2022, 06:19 AM
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Why do tradies do not understand "mentally demanding" jobs?

Why can't they understand it?

"Oh... but you don't even work.. you are seated all day, pfff!"




Is this an IQ thing?




edit: why don't tradies understand* (hate using the phone)
post 1660977563 05-09-2022, 06:23 AM
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Yes if people who complained about mentally demanding jobs had a higher iq they would realize they didn’t really do any hard work. But unfortunately not enough people are smart enough so they struggle with the workload and then have to pretend their job is hard.
post 1660977613 05-09-2022, 06:24 AM
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Originally Posted By Duckliver
Yes if people who complained about mentally demanding jobs had a higher iq they would realize they didn’t really do any hard work. But unfortunately not enough people are smart enough so they struggle with the workload and then have to pretend their job is hard.
There are some mentally demanding jobs out there. Majority aren't, I give you that.
post 1660977643 05-09-2022, 06:25 AM
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post 1660977653 05-09-2022, 06:25 AM
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keyboardcell isn't demanding bruh
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post 1660977683 05-09-2022, 06:27 AM
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I'd say most of the time it isn't the actual work that is mentally draining, it's co-workers, bosses, insane deadlines and pressure that burns people out.
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post 1660977753 05-09-2022, 06:28 AM
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Originally Posted By AWillis
keyboardcell isn't demanding bruh
Can't type on my phone brah... ded srs.

Gotta be extra carefull. Which I'm not used to be when I'm using a keyboard.

Originally Posted By JUGGERNAUT1333
I'd say most of the time it isn't the actual work that is mentally draining, it's co-workers, bosses, insane deadlines and pressure that burns people out.
I agree.
post 1660977953 05-09-2022, 06:33 AM
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"Mentally draining" lmao


Office workers need a reason to complain about their job, while they work in temperature controlled environments and have full bathrooms/kitchens
post 1660978443 05-09-2022, 06:49 AM
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very very few jobs that actually require real use of the mind. only top level R&D folks really do that.

now soul draining, yea ill give officells that 1,000%
post 1660978473 05-09-2022, 06:51 AM
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The answer is in your title.
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post 1660978543 05-09-2022, 06:54 AM
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Lol done both types of jobs, can confirm mentally demanding jobs are more tiring.

Worked with a family friend labouring when I was younger, spent the day mixing concrete, shifting tons of bricks, cutting, laying, wheelbarrowing etc from 8am-5pm.

Still had the energy to go the gym in the evening and then slept solidly all night.

Since being a office worker (now WFH), get much more tired, often feel drained in the evenings, chit sleep from looking at screens all day etc.

Energy creates energy.
post 1660978553 05-09-2022, 06:54 AM
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The best sleep I've ever had in my life was when I was working 8AM-7PM every day in a super stressful office boiler room environment and driving 1 hour each way to work. Literally would get home at like 8:30-9PM every night, hang for an hour, and go to bed.

Would be asleep within like 30 seconds of turning the lights out, even though not really doing much physical activity at all.
post 1660978583 05-09-2022, 06:55 AM
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Have any of you actually met or had to hire a real tradie before? They are mostly/normally dumb as a box of rocks outside whatever specialty they have. And even then thats if your lucky and they are not a crackhead pretending to be a tradie. I mean happy they exist and I dont look down on them but yeah ... they are a tradie for a reason. Otherwise good people though, when it isnt one of the scam artist tradies.
post 1660978733 05-09-2022, 06:57 AM
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Mentally demanding in your temperature controlled cubical with your dozen Dunkin’ Donuts lmao.

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post 1660978903 05-09-2022, 07:02 AM
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Originally Posted By OPGenesis
Mentally demanding in your temperature controlled cubical with your dozen Dunkin’ Donuts lmao.

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Good luck with your fukked up body when your 50 goals.
post 1660979213 05-09-2022, 07:10 AM
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Originally Posted By peter2601
Lol done both types of jobs, can confirm mentally demanding jobs are more tiring.

Worked with a family friend labouring when I was younger, spent the day mixing concrete, shifting tons of bricks, cutting, laying, wheelbarrowing etc from 8am-5pm.

Still had the energy to go the gym in the evening and then slept solidly all night.

Since being a office worker (now WFH), get much more tired, often feel drained in the evenings, chit sleep from looking at screens all day etc.

Energy creates energy.
Agreed.



Have had physically demanding jobs as well as mentally taxing jobs…having to constantly use your brain for hours on end left me more exhausted. But I also think part that is due to being sedentary. When your brain is fried it’s hard to get any momentum to do anything because everything starts in the brain. Doing physically demanding work is more natural and as you said generates its own energy in a way.


I’d also note that while it is true that office work can be soul sucking, so can physical labor and the trades. In both instances you’re basically just a machine performing repetitive work.







And to answer Opie’s question, it’s because they’ve never had a mentally demanding job. Worse case scenario for them is that an issue comes up and they have to spend a few minutes coming up with a work around. Totally different than using maximum bandwidth for hours on end. And there’s really no way to explain what that feels like.
post 1660979533 05-09-2022, 07:16 AM
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Originally Posted By peter2601
Lol done both types of jobs, can confirm mentally demanding jobs are more tiring.

Worked with a family friend labouring when I was younger, spent the day mixing concrete, shifting tons of bricks, cutting, laying, wheelbarrowing etc from 8am-5pm.

Still had the energy to go the gym in the evening and then slept solidly all night.

Since being a office worker (now WFH), get much more tired, often feel drained in the evenings, chit sleep from looking at screens all day etc.

Energy creates energy.
Some of that may be the ages that you did the job. You did the labor when you were at your peak energy levels. If you did the office work when you were in your 20s and the manual labor in your 30s, you might have a slightly different opinion.

But I feel that is the way that most people should do it. Work your way up when you're young and full of energy, and then work smarter later.
post 1660979643 05-09-2022, 07:18 AM
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Originally Posted By Underwrought
Good luck with your fukked up body when your 50 goals.
Jokes on you, my bodys already ****ed up at 35

Such is tradie life
post 1660979713 05-09-2022, 07:19 AM
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Originally Posted By Underwrought
Good luck with your fukked up body when your 50 goals.
He's an HVAC brah highly unlikely to have a fuked up body at 50, especially if he stays in shape
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Idk where I changed along the way. But I'm willing to bet my middle school and high school rivaled your college. My high school was college prepratory. Normal classes were weighted when GPA was considered

I remember the workload in 8th grade was insane. I just can't quite remember exactly what it was. But multiple papers, projects, tests, speeches due per week with all the classes. My final Spanish exam senior year was 2000 questions. Homework was like 3 to 6 hours a night. Had multiple lifelong people at that school switch to public high school because it was too hard and they wanted a normal life.

I was just looking at tiny home stuff and they talk about builders. So right now I'd be the one building. And I was like would be kinda cool to own my own business. But then my day to day would shift to what...

Buying materials, making designs (that may not even be used), hiring people to build it... and whole bunch of other fluffy/ organizational bullchit. Talking on phones, relying on OTHER people to do the work for me

That just sounds dumb. Meanwhile as a worker I can come in, have a set designated thing to do. Complete it, feel fulfilled, AND not have to worry about anything else or bring it home or into relationships with me

At some point, the latter became much better to me

I honestly don't want anything to do with the organizational bullchit. Maybe if the money were good enough..but then lifestyle is still a consideration too

I think it'd be gay as fuk to be off and worried about some material handler not fulfilling their part of the job which would fuk everything up

Like I said, just dumb
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office workers are the weakest bunch you can find. literally bad posture cause sitting all day. I would take skilled laborers or soldier-athletes any day of the week over some dehydrated Officecel

Last month i was downloading military trucks and conex's off military trains, coming from Poland, if the retard driver or the guides arent paying attention and that LMTV flips off the rail, you are a flat pancake my dude


not to mention working out in any kind of weather condition. lol @ office cels
post 1660989333 05-09-2022, 09:47 AM
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Originally Posted By peter2601
Lol done both types of jobs, can confirm mentally demanding jobs are more tiring.

Worked with a family friend labouring when I was younger, spent the day mixing concrete, shifting tons of bricks, cutting, laying, wheelbarrowing etc from 8am-5pm.

Still had the energy to go the gym in the evening and then slept solidly all night.

Since being a office worker (now WFH), get much more tired, often feel drained in the evenings, chit sleep from looking at screens all day etc.

Energy creates energy.
Working as a laborer is not being a tradie.
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Mentally demanding jobs you can still work well into your 70s. Think doctor, architect, etc

Tradies getting cut off once their body starts physically deteriorating
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some tradie work is legit hard but a lot of can be very lazy too
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Originally Posted By GODself
There are some mentally demanding jobs out there. Majority aren't, I give you that.
They're not really hard. Usually a few weeks to build a system, to make the job tremendously easy and function as a machine. The key is to be proactive, and it'll never be hard.

A tradies job can be much harder, as it's not always just physical labor. There's also a tremendous amount of skill, talent and strategy to fix or build certain equipment, epecially machinery. Those tradie jobs usually pay much higher than just f@g in a cubicle and they are much harder. (Ded fkn Srs)
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I'd argue that being roofer in 105 degrees is more "mentally demanding" than sitting in air conditioning on the misc.
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Originally Posted By HMFIC_BROWSIN
I'd argue that being roofer in 105 degrees is more "mentally demanding" than sitting in air conditioning on the misc.
that chit is just exhausting all over. heat makes you a b!tch real quick. but tbf I had officecel days where my brain just wasn't working anymore. didn't want to do anything and couldn't enjoy anything the rest of the day. there are none of the "worked so hard all day, I deserve rest" cozy feels of physical labor either.
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Originally Posted By Better
that chit is just exhausting all over. heat makes you a b!tch real quick. but tbf I had officecel days where my brain just wasn't working anymore. didn't want to do anything and couldn't enjoy anything the rest of the day. there are none of the "worked so hard all day, I deserve rest" cozy feels of physical labor either.
Now imagine having to take a sh!t in that temperature and having to use one of those porter potties that has been sitting outside for weeks with a pile of sh!t to the seat. Yet officecels think their jobs suck. (Ded fkn Srs)
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Originally Posted By peter2601
Lol done both types of jobs, can confirm mentally demanding jobs are more tiring.

Worked with a family friend labouring when I was younger, spent the day mixing concrete, shifting tons of bricks, cutting, laying, wheelbarrowing etc from 8am-5pm.

Still had the energy to go the gym in the evening and then slept solidly all night.

Since being a office worker (now WFH), get much more tired, often feel drained in the evenings, chit sleep from looking at screens all day etc.

Energy creates energy.
Lol u wot m8

I've done both too, and office work is infinitely easier. Maybe you have something else going on that's making you lethargic now.
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Originally Posted By gmenfan40
Now imagine having to take a sh!t in that temperature and having to use one of those porter potties that has been sitting outside for weeks with a pile of sh!t to the seat. Yet officecels think their jobs suck. (Ded fkn Srs)
I've done both. Tradie work can be exhausting and nasty but you get those good endorphins at the end of the day every day. Maybe it colours your memories, idk. You don't physically suffer in a wagie cagie but it just drains your soul and you don't feel good at the end either.
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