My perspective is skewed by friends and colleagues as everyone I know has a college degree, quite a few with graduate degrees. I don’t think this is necessarily the norm.

Is there a divide between those who have a degree and those who don’t?

i feel like youre looked down upon in society if you dont hold a college degree as silly as that is

i know successful people that hold college degrees and i know successful people who didnt graduate high school or graduated by the skin of their teeth


i will say i think for the average college graduate the debt and time spent obtaining a degree simply isnt worth the pursuit in 2022

I would say of course there is a divide, but like Kevin O' Leary said. A degree is not a prerequisite to success.

You shape your own future.

Plus school is not for everyone either.

depends for what, and even then nope

I know a lot of wealthy dudes who were turned down by women because they didn't have a college degree

...and I have met no shortage of loser women with college degrees.

This. It's quite possibly the GOAT scam in history.

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i know plenty of people who spent 5-10k on college degrees just to get out and make 14/hr

but i guess thats what you gotta do to not make minimum? JUST LOL

A college degree isn't a big deal but can be useful

At one time a college degree was special.

Now, with cancel culture, politically woke and corrupt Universities have become, a college degree doesn't mean as much to me.

I'd prefer if we moved away from the current accreditation system. I believe a better system can be created.

I'd say it gave me a ton of perspective in a lot of ways. I'm not even working in the field I graduated in, yet my income has grown exponentially since obtaining a degree.

yes. you can always tell the people that graduated from college from those that did not.

If you are going to college, get a useful major - finance (pretty much the easiest to get of all the useful majors), accounting, nursing , Engineering or IT

What a dumb thing to say.
What if you want to before a nurse, accountant, doctor, engineer, lawyer etc. then you must go to college. That is a poor strawman argument to make.

A MUCH better statement/argument to make is that MOST college majors are useless, not that ALL of college is useless. Saying that "college is a scam" is a strawman. And a poor one at that

i dont think hes implying its a scam for the minority of college graduates but insinuating for the the majority who do graduate with a 4 year psych or history degree its a complete scam and not a worthwhile pursuit

I like that argument better. The statement "college is a scam" makes no sense.

Bigger deal to those without it imo.

People with it rarely give a **** from my experience, but those without in many cases have an inferiority complex that shows regarding it.

$5-$10k is pretty cheap. It’s at least $10k a year for tuition at a state school, and up to $60k a year at a private school.

Associates at a community college at the very minimum. This gets all of the core classes out of the way and we can at least be on the same page in foundational topics.

Try talking to someone without a basic education about vector forces...

Yeah. Real quality is a catholic undergrad or tier 1 (oxford, columbia, etc.) to enter the world of elites.

Just get your degree as cheaply and quickly as possible. My job paid for my Masters degree.

What about: Law school/Med School/Nursing School/Pharmacy School/Engineering or any career that requires a college degree from an accredited program?

and even then, As long as you obtained a degree in a STEM, the world (in terms of job prospects) opens SO many doors that were once closed to you and even if the job doesn't require a college degree, simply having a degree makes you more competitive if you're trying to get hired in a really popular position/field.

Another example of the benefit of a degree is in the case you finally get into your dream job and you find out you absolutely hate it and want to switch careers. The transition is super easy with a college degree, but if you don't have one and you realize you hate your job, it would be scary to try to leave that job if you know you have nothing to show for it that would make you competitive. Sure, you'd probably be able to get another job in the same field (that you hate) but pursuing a brand new career would be a HUGE hurdle to overcome.

In terms of college, this is how its suppose to be done so you're not wasting time/money.

Right out of HS, you go to Community College for 2 years (with prospects of a degree in a STEM), get all the humanities bullchit (sociology/philosophy/history/anthropology/art appreciation etc) out of the way for a much cheaper price. The ease of the courses should allow you to pick up a part time job where you can save up money, then when its time to get into the upper division courses you go to a 4 year that is directly associated with the CC so all of the courses properly transfer. Also, while at the 4 year you sign up for internships/volunteer positions. You don't spend that free time farting around at parties. That way, when you graduate you'll have that 1-3 years of experience for an entry level position that most jobs have now days. Most recruiters/hiring managers know that most people aren't going to have that experience for an entry level position but if you actually have that experience? You are the cream of the crop in terms of getting picked for an interview.

20 years ago having a degree opened alot more doors for you- these days not so much

Too expensive and time consuming.

My parents were paying for it when I was 18, until I flunked out.

At 32, I can’t justify the cost of going back.

My resume has some really good experience on it though, all things considered. I’m on a decent path.

If you don't have at least a BSc in a STEM subject you're subhuman trash tbh

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I did this with the replacement of free school to elite school after gened.
Going to a top place from the start, especially for humanities bs, would have made more sense because connections are oriented from here.

You could also go military for four years to get free college.

I think there is something to be said of the college experience.