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Andre The Giant in Japan > Andre The Giant in WWF (Gifs)

He could actually move. In WWF he couldn’t even stand without pain and used the ring ropes to hold himself up.

https://imgur.com/a/BaXtm

https://imgur.com/a/kpVDpkz
post 1666101263 08-14-2022, 12:03 PM
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That guy flipping him around is strong as fuk
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Originally Posted By yewotm8
That guy flipping him around is strong as fuk
The first one is Stan Hansen

Second is Antonio Inoki who is responsible for the creation of mma. He also fought
Mohammed Ali in the infamous Boxer vs. Wrestler match that was supposed to be a show for charity but turned into a heated shoot fight when Ali got frustrated and called him a “little yellow mother ****er!”
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Originally Posted By yewotm8
That guy flipping him around is strong as fuk
Inoki-one of the biggest stars in wrestling history. Also a dodgy conman-even went as far as to claim he was responsible for Saddam releasing 41 Japanese hostages during the Gulf War, after flying there against advice. Flew a load of wrestlers to North Korea in 1995 against advice as well.
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Gotch has to one of the few that could suplex Andre and hold a bridge for a pin while in Japan.


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Originally Posted By Deathstroke
The first one is Stan Hansen

Second is Antonio Inoki who is responsible for the creation of mma. He also fought
Mohammed Ali in the infamous Boxer vs. Wrestler match that was supposed to be a show for charity but turned into a heated shoot fight when Ali got frustrated and called him a “little yellow mother ****er!”
Vale Tudo was in brazil before then.
A million miles away - I don't.. feel.... anything.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PXGZu4yxjW0
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And if you think Inoki was strong look what Gotch could do, and he was a high rep calisthenics guy and about 48 years old here:

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Originally Posted By seanb1979
Vale Tudo was in brazil before then.
That is real fighting. No rules, rounds, weight classes, gloves right?

Inoki was the man who first held events with bouts with combatants from different martial arts backgrounds and made it popular in the orient. He is credited worldwide as The Godfather of mma. Whether in a roundabout way or so, he deserves acknowledgement in the discussion of the early days of mixed martial arts.
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Originally Posted By Mr.PissShivers
And if you think Inoki was strong look what Gotch could do, and he was a high rep calisthenics guy and about 48 years old here:

Jesus Christ…
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Inoki was not responsible for the creation of MMA.. you pleb
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Aren't the clips of Andre in WWF much later in his life?
He developed some hue back problems and could barely move. They just ushered him out like a dying animal in his last days..pretty sad, but that giant disease is crippling
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It would be almost impossible to determine the origins of MMA...there have been mixed rules matches dating back over 100 years. Inoki was definitely an early pioneer in Japanese MMA though thanks to Gotch.
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Inoki was definitely a pioneer of mixed martial arts thanks to Gotch his form of grappling and hooking and faced many opponents from all dominant disciplines of combat sports like

Akram Pahalwan in Pakistan
Willie Williams of Kyokushin Karate
Olympic judo gold medalist Willem Ruska
WBA and WBC World Heavyweight Champion Muhammad Ali

They were at the time billed as real exhibitions but they were likely worked ie staged but because he was the first man to promote mma cards that did feature legit fighters. In billed matches from different backgrounds. He is credited as such a pioneer of the combat sport we know as mixed martial arts.

The only reason skeptics dispute that is 1. Lack of knowledge of fight history. 2. The fact inoki was a pro wrestler.

But if you dig deeper you’d find out there no way that pride, and ufc would exist as it is now if not his promotion of the first mma cards or for pro wrestling (specifically pro wrestling in Japan). Namely NJPw without that, there is no mma the way it is today.
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Originally Posted By Deathstroke
The first one is Stan Hansen

Second is Antonio Inoki who is responsible for the creation of mma. He also fought
Mohammed Ali in the infamous Boxer vs. Wrestler match that was supposed to be a show for charity but turned into a heated shoot fight when Ali got frustrated and called him a “little yellow mother ****er!”
I never heard of the Ali fight and that sounds really interesting.

I am reading about it now.
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cuz he went to WWF after he was decling and became beer drinking partycel
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Originally Posted By Mr.PissShivers
And if you think Inoki was strong look what Gotch could do, and he was a high rep calisthenics guy and about 48 years old here:

Wtf , how do you not tear your bicep doing that . I can’t believe how much strength he has
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Andre was never the same after he got slammed by the Hulkster in front of 3 billion people at the Pontiac Silverdome brother! Hogan tapped into the everlasting indomitable force of Hulkamainia, had the 24 inch pythons pumped, and he scoop slammed all 4000lb of that Giant Andre. Once a giant is slammed he loses his soul, Jack!. Andre died a few days later. WWE pulled a Weekend at Bernies the next Wrestlemania and had King Haku puppeteer the corpse of ANdre in a match against the Demolition, Axe and Smash. Needless to say he got his stinkin' teeth kicked in arrgghhh!
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Originally Posted By elterrible987
Its fake, Andre jumps up into it so they dont really have to lift him
The float over is all Gotch.

If Andre jumped into a German suplex for you , you’d horribly botch the move and he’d end up dropping on top of you thus flattening you. Maybe even hurting himself and/or you. Know Why? Because it’s not all one man (in this case Andre) doing the work.
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Originally Posted By MajorTendonitis
Wtf , how do you not tear your bicep doing that . I can’t believe how much strength he has
Gotch learned his conditioning from the Pehlwani wrestlers of India/middle east. The training there using yogic calisthenics, clubs and maces helps build a unique type of strength.



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Originally Posted By Deathstroke
The float over is all Gotch.

If Andre jumped into a German suplex for you , you’d horribly botch the move and he’d end up dropping on top of you thus flattening you. Maybe even hurting himself and/or you. Know Why? Because it’s not all one man (in this case Andre) doing the work.
This...The Geman suplex wasn't named after him for nothing.

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Originally Posted By p7nk
Inoki was not responsible for the creation of MMA.. you pleb
This is true. It was in fact the great Rikidozan who created it a generation earlier.
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Originally Posted By Mr.PissShivers
And if you think Inoki was strong look what Gotch could do, and he was a high rep calisthenics guy and about 48 years old here:

unreal strength srs

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Originally Posted By Paul
Aren't the clips of Andre in WWF much later in his life?
He developed some hue back problems and could barely move. They just ushered him out like a dying animal in his last days..pretty sad, but that giant disease is crippling
He was quite slim until the mid 1980's & could move pretty well still, but 1985 was when his weight started getting out of hand & his joints started going. Maeda basically embarrassed him in a match in 1986 that turned into something of a shoot, with a drunk Andre kicked over & unable to get back up & Inoki having to jump in to stop it. He had to have surgery in 1986 before the WM 3 match with Hogan & was a total joke after that-he would do a spot where he would get tied in the ropes pretty much every match to recover & had to hold the ropes when he was moving around & didn't work that much.
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Originally Posted By knightofday
unreal strength srs

mirin so hard
Yeah, Inoki was 220 give or take.
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Originally Posted By MajorTendonitis
Wtf , how do you not tear your bicep doing that . I can’t believe how much strength he has
Backlund could do it without any cooperation from the other guy, according to those that worked with him & he was still doing it in his mid-late forties.

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Originally Posted By Numba1Misker
cuz he went to WWF after he was decling and became beer drinking partycel
WWWF/WWF was his base, but Vince Sr was smart enough to know he couldn't work as a full time performer, so he hired him out to the other promoters & he toured around doing short runs in the territories. That all changed in the mid 1980's when Vince Jr decided to go national & global & he was then solely in New York.
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Originally Posted By Mr.PissShivers
This...The Geman suplex wasn't named after him for nothing.

Jumbo did it better.
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Originally Posted By jimbob007
Backlund could do it without any cooperation from the other guy, according to those that worked with him & he was still doing it in his mid-late forties.

What a hoss he was. And another guy influenced by Gotch into Gotch's style of training in the mid 80's.

To your point, here he is in 98 at the same age Gotch was in the gif I posted:
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Originally Posted By jimbob007
Jumbo did it better.
I don't think I could agree with that.

But I think one of by favorite suplexes is Lou Thesz's snap back suplex...He would throw that thing so fast even at 59:

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Originally Posted By Mr.PissShivers
I don't think I could agree with that.

But I think one of by favorite suplexes is Lou Thesz's snap back suplex...He would throw that thing so fast even at 59:

I saw one he hit on I think Terry Funk a while back from around 1973-1975 & it was the quickest & best executed thing I have ever seen. Not the one on Reddit.
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