We’re 7 months in already with either side committed to any diplomatic resolution thus far. What will it take?

Russian referendum to declare parts of Ukraine as Russia
Ukraine to try take back those parts as Ukraine
NATO fast track Ukraine application
NATO countries put boots on ground
War ensures

Ukraine is currently on the offensive but losing a ton a of soldiers. They apparently lost 20,000 trying to take Lyman.

Once winter sets in, its gonna get a lot harder for both sides, especially for the Ukrainians to continue storming Russian positions in the mud and snow.

By that time the Russian 300k+ mobilized recruits will come to shore up the defenses and try to go on offensive to regain some lost territory.

But regardless what happens in the next 6 months, I doubt Russia walks away from this, they are in to deep now. They won't use nuclear weapons that would be just foolish. But they'll destroy a lot of southern and eastern Ukraine over the years. Large parts of it will become a giant no mans lands will millions of mines. Completely Uninhabitable.

Short Endgame? Try to hold the line and wear down the Ukrainians and destroy the west's patience to continue supplying Ukraine with arms.

Long Endgame? Create a buffer zone across the eastern and southern parts of Ukraine so NATO can't launch an eastward offensive towards Russia in the future.

If this ends up a war of attrition...will the West ultimate succeed? And if does get desperate to such a situation for Russia, wouldn't they be compelled to want to use nukes?

I can't see the West getting tired of supplying arms to Ukraine.
The longer this proxy war goes on the better. Keep supplying arms to Ukraine to weaken Russia.
This will probably go on for ages if neither side can make much progress during the Winter.

world would be a better place if or when zelesnky and putin are both gone

The 'west' is only the US at this point. The contribution of the collectives EU towards Ukraine is dwindling in real-time. It s a joke. If this winter is harsh the EU will abandon Ukraine and get back on Russian Gas.

Nukes are retarded, a single nuke detonated ion Eastern UA or anywhere for that matter will carry radioactive fallout in any direction the wind blows on that particular day. It could spread towards Russia, Poland. Who knows where it will go.

A NATO country dealing with nuclear fallout would certainly mean the triggering of Article 5. Just look at how the radiation from Chernobyl spread after the reactor exploded.

Brings money to the US Military Industrial Complex since Afghanistan is over

Ukraine sacks the country in hopes to join Nato
US made some energy gainz with the pipeline incident
We’ll see if BRICS poses a threat to the western order

The west may become irrelevant banana republics and left to stew in their own chit

The abortion and tranny stuff are giving civil war vibes (kicking abortion back to the states) but this time it’s an underground railroad to baby murder and genital mutilation.

germany might recover in 10 years

maybe

imagine destroying the future of your country for this



fkn lmao

End game = total RU defeat

Putin's an idiot

Ukraine has defeated the RU mil

All that's left now are the final mopping up operations

Lots of young HBBs over there. Are the big cities just filled with young women and all the young men are fighting? We should have spent 40 billion on airline tickets and visas for the HBBs before the Russians take them

Recruitment to the foreign far-right formation of a volunteer detachment, in which the first commander of the Rusich Diversion and Assault Reconnaissance Group (DSRG), Alexei Yurievich Milchakov, is serving

The unit is a volunteer one, so we take care of its logistics ourselves. It is desirable for candidates for volunteers to bring with them from abroad as much as possible. But if there is nothing, naked we shall not leave.
Registration is official. Contract with the Ministry of Defense for six months, but in fact - until the end of the war. Vacations are provided for.

The unit requires:
Tank crews, artillerymen, BMP crews, liaison officers, motorized riflemen of all specialties.

Basic requirements for volunteer candidates:
Physically sturdy, strong healthy men from 21 to 50 years old with no addictions.
Age relaxations for military specialists only.

Sign up for the squad by ******** number:+79381807395by sending a message with the data:

1 NAME. 2. Date of birth. 3 Military specialty. 4. Civilian specialty. 5.Combat experience, where and when. 6 Health limitations. 7. Contact number.

DO NOT CALL at this number. No one will answer the phone. Because the non-brothers have once again resorted to the practice of DDoS attacks on the phone.

There is an absolute prohibition on any kind of abuse in the squad.
A volunteer candidate who arrives at the base, even with a hangover, will not be allowed into the deployment and will be sent back home

This.

It's just money to us, and the only people dying are Ukicels and Ruskies. Win win either way you cut it.

Ukraine is fighting for us and dying? Great, we don't lose any men.
Russia is depleting supplies? Great, it's just tax dollars and money we can print endlessly.

Win winThis.

But realistically, no one gives a fuk. Some rich people get richer, jobs are created, voter base is happy, voters vote.


Ukicels die, Russia gets weaker.


We then go into Ukraine and buy it up for pennies on the dollar.



Iraq v2.0. Aka firesale on cheap, fertile land

The end game is the total collapse of the Russian economy and government.

I would advise everyone to report Luke to Homeland Security. When Ukraine surrenders he's going to go ballistic