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» it really is unnerving how much alcohol makes your drive like a maniac
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post 1669470963 10-14-2022, 11:14 AM
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it really is unnerving how much alcohol makes your drive like a maniac

It's crazy to think how accepted it was like before the 1990s.

I'm a libertarian but I can see the how it makes sense for all cars to require drivers to blow into it to make sure you're sober. Imagine the lives that could be saved.
post 1669471153 10-14-2022, 11:16 AM
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post 1669471163 10-14-2022, 11:16 AM
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yeah because having a sober person blow into your machine before you leave the bar isn't possible.
post 1669471293 10-14-2022, 11:18 AM
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Originally Posted By Mogambo
I'm a libertarian but I can see the how it makes sense for the government to force a tube into my mouth before I can operate the vehicle I bought so I can drive on roads built with money stolen from my paychecks.
Your first name may be Lib, but your last name sure ain't Ertarian.
post 1669471363 10-14-2022, 11:19 AM
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Originally Posted By PyleShazam
It's so much fun though!
Exactly who cares

Population control op lol
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post 1669471633 10-14-2022, 11:24 AM
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Originally Posted By jimbone21
Your first name may be Lib, but your last name sure ain't Ertarian.
I just like to move people to the middle by taking the extreme other side.
post 1669471933 10-14-2022, 11:31 AM
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I drive like a maniac sober
post 1669472173 10-14-2022, 11:34 AM
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I’m more worried about people texting. They should stick their phone in the tube tbh
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post 1669472413 10-14-2022, 11:38 AM
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Originally Posted By Mogambo
It's crazy to think how accepted it was like before the 1990s.

I'm a libertarian but I can see the how it makes sense for all cars to require drivers to blow into it to make sure you're sober. Imagine the lives that could be saved.
I am a libertarian, and I totally disagree with this. People take one of two paths when driving after some drinks. Some people are feeling good and drive like maniacs. Others realize they are impaired and keep their hands at 10 & 2, turn off the radio and go exactly the speed limit because they recognize that their reflexes are compromised and therefore they need to drive more carefully. You are unfortunately in the reckless crowd who is a danger to society, but the rest of the people shouldn't be punished because you can't handle yourself. I get the need for DUI laws, but people should only be pulled over for DUI if there is cause (i.e. they are speeding or swerving or somehow driving recklessly). The people who know they need to be more careful and drive safely shouldn't. I oppose DUI checkpoints for this reason.
post 1669472493 10-14-2022, 11:39 AM
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Originally Posted By desslok
I’m more worried about people texting. They should stick their phone in the tube tbh
Texting and driving is at least as dangerous as DUI.
post 1669472593 10-14-2022, 11:41 AM
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Not going to state my opinion one way or the other on this, but I do have a question for you, OP.

What would you define as 'sober' from a BAC standpoint?
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post 1669472743 10-14-2022, 11:43 AM
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post 1669472863 10-14-2022, 11:44 AM
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Originally Posted By HMFIC_BROWSIN
yeah because having a sober person blow into your machine before you leave the bar isn't possible.
who doesn't drink in a bar?
post 1669472913 10-14-2022, 11:45 AM
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Originally Posted By Jayarbie
I am a libertarian, and I totally disagree with this. People take one of two paths when driving after some drinks. Some people are feeling good and drive like maniacs. Others realize they are impaired and keep their hands at 10 & 2, turn off the radio and go exactly the speed limit because they recognize that their reflexes are compromised and therefore they need to drive more carefully. You are unfortunately in the reckless crowd who is a danger to society, but the rest of the people shouldn't be punished because you can't handle yourself. I get the need for DUI laws, but people should only be pulled over for DUI if there is cause (i.e. they are speeding or swerving or somehow driving recklessly). The people who know they need to be more careful and drive safely shouldn't. I oppose DUI checkpoints for this reason.
100% with you on the DUI checkpoints. Those are inherently unconstitutional.
post 1669473013 10-14-2022, 11:46 AM
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Originally Posted By Robmnrd
Not going to state my opinion one way or the other on this, but I do have a question for you, OP.

What would you define as 'sober' from a BAC standpoint?
I mean....the states define that pretty clearly.
post 1669474013 10-14-2022, 12:02 PM
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Originally Posted By Mogambo
I mean....the states define that pretty clearly.
Okay so you want to leave it up to a (relatively) arbitrarily decided-upon number that the state government put into place, regardless of how impaired they actually are or their relative decrease in driving ability.

Seems odd to me that you'd be so personally supportive of this system being put into place but wouldn't put some thought into whatyouthink is an appropriate number.

Thinking through all scenarios may lead you to a different conclusion regardinghowa sobriety-monitoring system should be implemented.
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post 1669474553 10-14-2022, 12:11 PM
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It’s still accepted in rural areas, I’ve been doing a lot of work in places where people measure distance in number of road beers
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