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post 1672256063 12-05-2022, 05:04 AM
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Do extremely old elderly people you always see smiling/happy just putting on a front?

Such as a relative or acquaintance in their 80's who are always cheerful and happy when you visit or talk to them. Are they actually happy, or do they just pretend to be and when they're by themselves they secretely want to die and miserable because they realize their life is practically over and they physically can't do anything anymore?
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post 1672256413 12-05-2022, 05:17 AM
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My girlfriend’s grandma is 92 and always cheerful despite being immobile and unable to remember anyones name. Sweetest old lady
post 1672257263 12-05-2022, 05:46 AM
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When you get old you are either crotchety and hateful or nice and happy. There doesnt seem to be much in between. The world either crushes you or you dont let the world matter to you.
post 1672257643 12-05-2022, 06:04 AM
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Originally Posted By EnderG60
When you get old you are either crotchety and hateful or nice and happy. There doesnt seem to be much in between. The world either crushes you or you dont let the world matter to you.
Got it.

There seems to be a happiness U curve. People are generally the most miserable around age 50 and then start to bounce back. But it isn't a single path for everyone. Some just keep getting better while other start becoming more miserable.



I started watching this Huberman episode and he theorized that the low point has moved to the right due to people marrying and having children later in life. I like Huberman, but he is one of those people I find it hard to stay focused on listening to.




An article for readers:
Drawing from previous research, he says there are three potential reasons people see a rebound: They learn to readjust expectations of themselves, they learn to appreciate their success when they see others who haven’t achieved as much and, finally, cheerful people may live longer in general.

Taylor, Gould and Brigham agree that mindfulness and expressing gratitude can help individuals feel happier. “It’s about learning to be more present in the moment and grateful for the things you have,” says Brigham. “You may not be able to sell everything and buy a boat and sail around the world, but you can make small changes to create more of the life you want.”
https://www.cnbc.com/2020/01/16/happ...-research.html


There are a few things you can do to try and be in the happy group.
As the participants in the Harvard Study of Adult Development have aged, researchers have categorized them with respect to happiness and health.There is a lot of variation in the population, but two distinct groups emerge at the extremes. The best off are the “happy-well,” who enjoy good physical health as well as good mental health and high life satisfaction. On the other end of the spectrum are the “sad-sick,” who are below average in physical health, mental health, and life satisfaction.
Here’s what you can do about each of them today to make sure your accounts are as full as possible when you reach your later years:

1. Don’t smoke—or if you already smoke, quit now. You might not succeed on your first try, but the earlier you start the quitting process, the more smoke-free years you can invest in your happiness account.

2. Watch your drinking. Alcohol abuse is strongly correlated with smoking in the Harvard study, but plenty of other research shows that even by itself, it is one of the most powerful predictors of winding up sad-sick. If you have any indication of problem drinking in your life, get help now. If you have drinking problems in your family, do not take your chances: Keep that switch turned off. Although forgoing alcohol can be difficult, you’ll never be sorry you made this decision.

3. Maintain a healthy body weight. Eat a diet with lots of fruits and vegetables and moderate serving sizes, but avoid yo-yo diets or intense restrictions that you can’t maintain over the long run.

4. Prioritize movement in your life by scheduling time for it every day and sticking to it. Arguably the single best, time-tested way to do this is by walking daily.

5. Practice your coping mechanisms now. The earlier you can find healthy ways to deal with life’s inevitable distresses, the more prepared you’ll be if ill luck strikes in your 80s. This means working consciously—perhaps with assistance from spiritual practices or even therapy—to avoid excessive rumination, unhealthy emotional reactions, or avoidance behavior.

6. Keep learning. More education leads to a more active mind in old age, and that means a longer, happier life. That doesn’t mean that you need to go to Harvard; you simply need to engage in lifelong, purposive learning. For example, that can mean reading serious nonfiction as part of a routine to learn more about new subjects.

7. Do the work to cultivate stable, long-term relationships now. For most people, this includes a steady marriage, but other relationships with family, friends, and partners can fit in this category as well. The point is to find people with whom you can grow, whom you can count on, no matter what comes your way.
Link:
https://www.theatlantic.com/family/a...stment/622818/

7 is my weakest point ATM. 3 through 5 have been neglected and need some work.
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post 1672270603 12-05-2022, 10:58 AM
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Pro tip.

Old people are just regular people who are a bit older. You dont magically become some loving old person once you hit a certain age. If anything you become more of who you were as a younger version because the outer husk is sort of stripped off. Thats why you see really grouchy old people or really kind ones.

They still get all the same emotions and feelings that everyone else gets.

If a grandma seems happy, chances are she was always that way. they never go from being a jerk off to suddenly being nice and sweet at a certain age.
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