I mean, working out is cool and all, having an 8 pack and spiky hair is cool. But I don't know, I feel as if that's it. Guys before 2011 were on a whole other level, all wanting to look like Goku, some juiced wrestler or some hardcore unobtainable figure. Guys now would rather stay indoors at 99% bf worrying about gluten content striving to lose testosterone and be a woman???????

I don't understand. Kids back then pre 2011 unintentionally had hardcore rolemodels/aspirations. Friends my age at the time all had John Cena/Supercar wallpapers or a naked lady calendar. Basically everyone I knew wanted to be a super saiyan, rambo, 50 cent, a rockstar or some outrageous epic figure, just like me really. Only to grow up and command 0 respect/become low energy/tubby? It seems everyone has settled for being low octane/low energy with boring goals.

Some fool in a queue for some food shop was showing me some piece of crap tubby youtube videogame kind of guy (those clowns who record themselves playing games talking ****). Said he was his inspiration. LOL?? Inspired by some copy and paste with short back and sides, shows his ankles and sits on his ass all day afraid of confronting anyone????? What the heck is going on.


People have such low energy, I swear nobody realises how pathetic this is. I wish it was 2010.

Back when stuff like this was popular.

Lol, nobody even has aspirations these days, not even surprised.

bruh dudes these days are straight up pussies.

Literally last night some zoomers were chitting their pants scared wanting to talk to some chick at the gym and huddling around their phones looking for her social media. I know the chick, she's super nice, talk to her every now and then and it was scary to see a whole generation of guys in front of me not only scared to approach a female but acting as teenage girls behave sitting around giggling and timid.

Calling these piece of crap retards pussies isn't a strong enough word I swear. I wish these wastes of existences just died already, such a poor/weak culture that doesn't even make sense. Guys before 2011 had this tough guy macho man act and they were the **** because they knew they were the ****. Perfect equilibrium and you just know women can detect the strong attitude. Imagine the epic nights out those kinds of guys had compared to the awkward 0 confidence guys now.

It baffles me. The inevitable offspring of the "couples" I see today, ****kkkk, their kids are going to be absolutely **** and broken. The morals they'll be taught are going to come from their low energy 0 confidence scared parents who don't know **** and met through some awkward app.

Couples from the 2000s just looked strong and solid. I laugh when a see some pussy male and female together texting away, afraid of communication. I mean really, just stay home and **** off already, it's a horrible sight, pathetic useless clowns. Such a waste of life, a life spent on a tiny rectangle phone, lol, building 0 memories in their weird lives as the norm.

I would rather stay indoors, drink alcohol, eat nice food and enjoy entertainment on television/laptop/smartphone. Maybe once in a blue moon buy some nice relaxing clothes, not the fancy ones.

I mean what do I have to achieve by being a super hero kinda person? Bully other men around? What if everyone was super hero kinda person? Then you can't be the best right?

Nobody lifts anymore. The average 2011 guy had the looks of Mike Thurston, the attitude of Greg Plitt and the personality of Zyzz idk what happened. Nobody has that energy or passion anymore for anything.

Well yeah, at your age that might be the case. Dropping the wild attitude might be favorable in old age. But what were u up to when you were young?

I understand the appeal of that, but surely you'd just get bored, right? Are you bored? I'd go crazy if I just moved room to room staring at screens as my life experience. What kind of life is that to live?


I don't know but I just know that guys from incidentally your era just had crazy aspirations with their inspirational figures being something hardcore. Just having that wild persona as 2nd that made their outings interesting. Well, not really about being the best, just to do cool stuff without some weird conscience overpowering you. Guys now are afraid to talk to some store employee, they might think about it for the rest of the day and it's just weird stuff that shouldn't even be a thing for a man.

Hardcore bodybuilding, lifting or just exercising became a stale idea by 2011...it became popular from 1970's when Arnold and Ferrigno were doing around their stuff, later on in 1980's-2000's some people just liked lifting (not necessarily to be a bodybuilder, but just be muscular enough) when they saw the popular Action movies....then in 2010's majority of gyms and the internet promoted fitness only exercise...then came Covid and the gyms were closed for a fairly long time.

So you see everything was over done like Hollywood movies.

lol what??

Yeah I have been through all that till my late 20's, I get it what you are trying to say. But at some point, anyone would be too tired or old to even try to do anything cool. Would rather just give up and chill at home.

Yeah but that first guy u mentioned is a clown. Sure his body is strong, but his persona/image is just a joke. He seems like an awkward quiet guy and I'm sure he started the retarded idea of uploading daily 30 minute eating videos. The other 2 were actual guys.

Other than to post lifting prs and physique pictures, I don't see why lifting is even on the internet. Guys don't even post funny videos of them being prats with their newly acquired muscles.

When I started lifting, I was asking the typical retard questions on forums only to eventually find that nothing has changed since the sport started like a 100 years ago or whatever. Just lift heavy and eat.
These clowns polluting the internet with the same stale information is unreal.

You know those videos where the camera is on an unsuspecting friend acting all funky? The 2000s guys doing that looked so natural and they were just hanging out having fun talking ****. The 2020's rendition of this is just some low energy lamppost who's clearly just a killjoy to be around.

He is 100% right. The trifecta for a guy is what he posted. Looks, attitude and persona. Look around, nobody is packing even one of those whereas before 2011 every guy just knew he had to be like that. It was almost like a secret code of sorts.

In old pictures they even looked epic, now guys just look like weird awkward jokes. I swear every picture taken pre 2011 looked natural.

Guys at the gym aren't even strong. They spend hours there and lol, what the heck. The bigger guys just go home to scroll on their phones so that's clearly a waste of a life.

It's like nobody hits that equilibrium of just having a good time. It seems like people would rather complain/scroll online rather than having an easily attainable fun life. I mean look how easy life is anyways, everything is designed to be spoonfed to us. It's a joke. Lol at guys eating chicken, would love to see these pussy pieces of crap even confront one of those crazy birds. Guys have 0 energy, 0 confidence and wow, 0 quality of life.

That was never the average guy

Hey uh, does anyone else want a DNA test for OP & EOD

It was common though for dudes to be like that. It's rare now when was the last time you even saw a fitness dude like them or hodgetwins

Yeah I actually agree with what you're saying. I think u did everything you could while you could if what you're saying is true.

The following questions apply to any age. Productivity wise, how much are you doing a day? Doing any physical hobbies? I just don't like the idea of pure inactivity. Your outline of your day is what it sounds like really and in my mind 30 minutes of screen time a day is a waste. So having tv as a staple part in your day is a bit crazy.

I'm slowly getting bored because it seems that nobody is high strung/high energy and isn't some weird hippy. Everyone has major flaws that nobody pre 2011 had. Nobody even remembers the culture I talk about. So yeah lol :/

It was. Think of even the nerds in those dragon flame shirts from 2005. They kept to themselves but still gave a **** about their looks. (Stayed clean shaven and spiked up their hair with gel, looked epic). Regular guys would strive for the guys nailing the trifecta destroying the field out there.

Stuff just doesn't work like that anymore for some reason. Guys now aren't forward/confronting. They just whine on a slight inaccuracy since they know they won't get punched in the face anymore.

I would be resilient to run my mouth at the 2000s guys cos they'd just knock me out, now I don't care because guys would just act like girls and read out the laws they've spent 10,000 hours memorising for the occasion. Man I hate everyone.

However there are probably more psychos out there since the interent is quite strong in brainwashing people. You aren’t supposed to ever see the stuff on here. I grew up around the crap I talk about so the interent not being there wouldn't have made a huge difference (I got a lot from online though). The stuff people look at online is wildy inappropriate whereas I just use it to look up a word or something lol.

Yeah that culture exited in like 2012-2013. I legit haven't seen any of the macho man/hardcore stuff from that era since then. It was just a vibe thing. Like every dude back then acted tough but was also into cool chit and wanted to be productive. Nowadays i'm more likely to talk to a dude that is 30% bf with zero muscle mass and just plays video games and gets all of his advice online rather than any of those alpha/original type dudes. I swear every other dude in 2011 was just cool. Before that there wasn't as much lifting but the cool dudes were into skating and heavy music. Nothing is like that anymore the culture is just dudes acting like women with no serious goals or passions looking at screens all day. I don't get how nobody remembers how epic things used to be just 10-12 years ago.

You can even see it in Dbz. Super came out and look how poofy it all looks (product of this era). It's an era thing. Literally anything and everything since 2013 has been camp as ****. I don't understand why. If Super came out in 2002 with the same plot, it somehow would've been badass as ****. Would've had spiky hair/sharp edge designs with metal soundtracks.

Dbz just had that hardcore look to it. Even gt did. I swear this era is complete joke, everyone thinks exactly alike and stuff seems to have this kind of weird theme to it. Creators all basically create the same thing. Everything looks the same.

What the heck happened. Stuff now just looks so fragile/pussified. Anything and everything from people's designs/demeanor, TV shows, music, pictures etc.

Just grab any picture/video from the 2000s and it'll look epic.

Honestly I'd even go as far as to say that gay guys from pre 2010 were more cool/masculine than the straight guys of this era. Guys now are just so pathetic. Chuck one of todays popular social media guys who people idolise for being manly/handsome/whatever in the 2000s world and he'd get called gay and would get laughed at/beaten up for looking like a weirdo moron.

Nobody is tough.

People listen to such low octane poofy music now. Nobody even listens to any kind of heavy music. It's like they need to have a pat on the back or a "pick me up". So pathetic.

Going out is pretty ridiculous, nobody is cool. All people do is stare into a phone.

Yeah, guys all wanted to be rally drivers, wrestlers, mma fighters and hard stuff like that. Now guys want to code for 12 hours a day and be inspired by a fat pussy who discusses videogame news, politics and weird anime costumes. As if???? People have gone downhill fast since 2012, nobody even notices it.