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post 1672757763 12-13-2022, 06:02 AM
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Career isn't everything

Agree or disagree
post 1672757803 12-13-2022, 06:04 AM
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Welp

You gotta make a living so your choices are

Be born wealthy
Work in a field with progression eg career
Get a job
Or marry it

Pick one
post 1672757933 12-13-2022, 06:08 AM
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Originally Posted By Rabbitjb⏩
Welp

You gotta make a living so your choices are

Be born wealthy
Work in a field with progression eg career
Get a job
Or marry it

Pick one
No, those are your choices.
post 1672758213 12-13-2022, 06:18 AM
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Originally Posted By Rabbitjb⏩
Welp

You gotta make a living so your choices are

Be born wealthy
Work in a field with progression eg career
Get a job
Or marry it

Pick one
There's also rotmax and leech


Career matters, but imo personal development is most important. Careers are only vaguely related to that.
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Originally Posted By Overthrow⏩
There's also rotmax and leech


Career matters, but imo personal development is most important.Careers are only vaguely related to that.
VERY vaguely at best (for the vast majority of the population at least). That's why I never really get the careercel types that are all about "I want to be challenged" or some other BS like that. It just seems like major wagecel cope. The only fulfillment I get from my job/career is the compensation.

Obviously the small minority who manage to turn an actual passion into a career are a different story, and are completely unrelatable to me.
post 1672758863 12-13-2022, 06:42 AM
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Originally Posted By Rabbitjb⏩
Welp

You gotta make a living so your choices are

Be born wealthy
Work in a field with progression eg career
Get a job
Or marry it

Pick one
Interesting.
post 1672759623 12-13-2022, 07:08 AM
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Lol @ the thought that working for someone else should be the most important thing in your life. Definition of a wagecuck. Being content, happy and healthy > everything.
post 1672759993 12-13-2022, 07:19 AM
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I'm nearly 30 and haven't settled on a career.

I've done:

Accounting degree with CPA
Military aviation electronics
Various construction/factory etc jobs

I'm thinking about doing a stint in firefighting next.
I honestly wish I could try out tons of careers without having to go to school etc.

i get bored easily at jobs.
post 1672760223 12-13-2022, 07:24 AM
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Boomers perpetuated this when they had nice wages, COL, and a fat pension with Social security on top of that. Good luck staying at a job for more than 20 years nowadays
post 1672760393 12-13-2022, 07:29 AM
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Originally Posted By Exiled93⏩
I'm nearly 30 and haven't settled on a career.

I've done:

Accounting degree with CPA
Military aviation electronics
Various construction/factory etc jobs

I'm thinking about doing a stint in firefighting next.
I honestly wish I could try out tons of careers without having to go to school etc.

i get bored easily at jobs.
I get bored at jobs easily too. I think in theory it's better to stick with one role and become a master at your craft if possible rather than be a jack of all trades. But this can be hard to do if the roles you're working aren't challenging or interesting enough.
Originally Posted By Evolutionary1⏩
Boomers perpetuated this when they had nice wages, COL, and a fat pension with Social security on top of that. Good luck staying at a job for more than 20 years nowadays
Most people switch jobs real quick nowadays I think. As soon as a better opportunity is available, you take it since it's the easiest way to climb the ladder by monkey-branching to the next company who'll offer a higher role or salary
post 1672760403 12-13-2022, 07:29 AM
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Originally Posted By Polaris⏩
VERY vaguely at best (for the vast majority of the population at least). That's why I never really get the careercel types that are all about "I want to be challenged" or some other BS like that. It just seems like major wagecel cope. The only fulfillment I get from my job/career is the compensation.

Obviously the small minority who manage to turn an actual passion into a career are a different story, and are completely unrelatable to me.
It depends on where your surrogate activities to replace the power process lie.


Every human needs to experience a task which requires effort to overcome and find success at it.

The most fundamental being finding food and shelter. We no longer need to spend any more effort than required to hold a minimum wage job (cattle brain level)

Since that isn’t really stimulating enough many people find surrogate activities to help fill the void, work happens to be that thing for many, others find hobbies etc.. nothing will ever fulfill you the way a successful hunt that ensures your survival or fixings a shelter to weather the elements. But not much we can really do about that.
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Originally Posted By Polaris⏩
VERY vaguely at best (for the vast majority of the population at least). That's why I never really get the careercel types that are all about "I want to be challenged" or some other BS like that. It just seems like major wagecel cope. The only fulfillment I get from my job/career is the compensation.

Obviously the small minority who manage to turn an actual passion into a career are a different story, and are completely unrelatable to me.
Yea it can vary tho. Some careers are very rewarding and have continual development. Examples I can think of: Researcher, Professor, Musician, Artist, Doctor. Basically any field where there is always more to learn and a way to sharpen your skills. But yea for most, I think you reach a certain point and then it is just a process of turning your time into money. Like if you work retail or something, you can maybe get to manager level, but after that you aren't really developing any new skills or growing really.
post 1672760423 12-13-2022, 07:29 AM
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Originally Posted By Exiled93⏩
I'm nearly 30 and haven't settled on a career.

I've done:

Accounting degree with CPA
Military aviation electronics
Various construction/factory etc jobs

I'm thinking about doing a stint in firefighting next.
I honestly wish I could try out tons of careers without having to go to school etc.

i get bored easily at jobs.
It doesn’t matter if you stick at something, it matters if you develop a set of skills maybe even a very particular set of skills
post 1672760663 12-13-2022, 07:35 AM
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Originally Posted By Overthrow⏩
Yea it can vary tho. Some careers are very rewarding and have continual development. Examples I can think of: Researcher, Professor, Musician, Artist, Doctor. Basically any field where there is always more to learn and ways to sharpen your skills. But yea for most, I think you reach a certain point and then it is just a process of turning your time into money.
If almost all of those people had to spend time worrying about food and shelter they would get zero satisfaction from pursuing their career. It’s only rewarding because their daily lives are lacking the basic power process humans spent hundreds of thousand of years living with and they need something to fill the void.

Not only that but most of these careers will lack the same kind of autonomy that needs to be applied to these tasks in order to fully satisfy a humans mental needs.
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strongly agree. on a related note, the number of people i have seen take early retirement or career breaks in the last 2-3 years only for them to realize how closely their sense of self is tied to their job is crazy. gotta have some separation there
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Originally Posted By Rabbitjb⏩
It doesn’t matter if you stick at something, it matters if you develop a set of skills maybe even avery particular set of skills
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Originally Posted By Rabbitjb⏩
It doesn’t matter if you stick at something, it matters if you develop a set of skills maybe even a very particular set of skills
I think it does matter. If you scatter your focus, or hop from one field to the next, you're not going to grow as much if you work on the same thing for years
Originally Posted By TheDude8734⏩
Agreed,

14+ years into my career I've found that the opportunities present themselves if you keep working on yourself to build upon the acquired skillset.

People take notice to those who are highly driven and motivated.
As long as you keep learning new chit and expanding your skills, yeah that will increase the value you are able to provide others which increases the value you get back
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Originally Posted By Duckliver⏩
If almost all of those people had to spend time worrying about food and shelter they would get zero satisfaction from pursuing their career. It’s only rewarding because their daily lives are lacking the basic power process humans spent hundreds of thousand of years living with and they need something to fill the void.

Not only that but most of these careers will lack the same kind of autonomy that needs to be applied to these tasks in order to fully satisfy a humans mental needs.
You have a LOT of autonomy in those fields afaik.
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Originally Posted By Overthrow⏩
Yea it can vary tho. Some careers are very rewarding and have continual development. Examples I can think of: Researcher, Professor, Musician, Artist, Doctor.Basically any field where there is always more to learn and a way to sharpen your skills.But yea for most, I think you reach a certain point and then it is just a process of turning your time into money. Like if you work retail or something, you can maybe get to manager level, but after that you aren't really developing any new skills or growing really.
That technically applies to my field, it actually applies to many...but if it's just a means to an end and you are genuinely passionate about it then - it's ultimately about the money.
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Originally Posted By QuickShotSteve⏩
IMO, it should be everything in your 20s and early 30s, get established early in life. Get married around 30, and start a family in mid-30s. At that time career should be well enough established you can back off the grind a little and enjoy life. By 50 you should be more focused on family than career growth, and enjoy what time you have left of still being 100% able bodied.
Some people grind hard enough in their 20s and 30s to retire by mid 30s-40s.

That'd be pretty dope
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Originally Posted By Polaris⏩
That technically applies to my field, it actually applies to many...but if it's just a means to an end and you are genuinely passionate about it then - it's ultimately about the money.
Some people are passionate about money lol. I guess you just have to find the thing that drives you. It isn't always work. Most jobs suck. For those cases, I guess it is about filling the time with something else meaningful. My dad recently bought a guitar. He's taking lessons and enjoying it. It's never too late to pick up something new in life.
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Originally Posted By Overthrow⏩
You have a LOT of autonomy in those fields afaik.
True autonomy is basically impossible while connected to industrial society.

Ignoring following the basic necessary laws of society.

- rules of the fields (copyright laws etc), exams/certifications, most people do have bosses, small businesses have government regulations and hoops, most people need to stay profitable, market conditions etc..
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Originally Posted By Voidgaze⏩
No, those are your choices.
Those are everyone’s choices Void
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Originally Posted By Duckliver⏩
True autonomy is basically impossible while connected to industrial society.

Ignoring following the basic necessary laws of society.

- rules of the fields (copyright laws etc), exams/certifications, most people do have bosses, small businesses have government regulations and hoops, most people need to stay profitable, market conditions etc..
That's true. You're always constrained by society, government, etc. But life would also suck otherwise. You'd just farm all day and then get bitten by a rabid animal and die lol.

Our lives are actually a lot better than ancient times. Like even in modern times in societies where economy has broken down, life really sucks. Imagine having to collect water or dig chit ditches. Not really great work for personal development. Somewhere out there, the next potential Einstein is building a house out of cow chit and trying not to die of diarrhea.

Modern life has freed us from this and allows us to pursue other things like art, music, intellectual disciplines, even just rotting and miscing lol.
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some places cater to middle class quality of living more than what upper middle offers nearby
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Originally Posted By Rabbitjb⏩
Those are everyone’s choices Void
Actually I have a bug out hiking setup with enough cash to get me anywhere on this continent by buss.

If I ever really go off the deep end I’m just gonna go as far north as I can and just start walking into the mountains and see how long I can live.
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Originally Posted By Rabbitjb⏩
Those are everyone’s choices Void
Cope

The ones you listed may be the easiest way out, but not sole choices.
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gonna have to agree on that, boyoth

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Originally Posted By Duckliver⏩
Actually I have a bug out hiking setup with enough cash to get me anywhere on this continent by buss.

If I ever really go off the deep end I’m just gonna go as far north as I can and just start walking into the mountains and see how long I can live.
I kind of like the idea of getting a boat and just sailing around, but the ocean smells horrible, and once you're out far enough from land, it gives you a kind of horrible feeling like you're completely lost.
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Originally Posted By Voidgaze⏩
Cope

The ones you listed may be the easiest way out, but not sole choices.
Don’t be obtuse, what are the options I’ve missed ?
Originally Posted By Duckliver⏩
Actually I have a bug out hiking setup with enough cash to get me anywhere on this continent by buss.

If I ever really go off the deep end I’m just gonna go as far north as I can and just start walking into the mountains and see how long I can live.
Opting out of modern life wasn’t one of the options true, and you’d have to have the cash from somewhere
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