Thread: How late's too late
02-13-2023, 08:15 PM
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How late's too late
Not spurred on by Valentine's Day, more of a diet/cut that's not been going well this last week.
So like you all know, I'm 27 and have never touched a woman. I have essentially zero access to women outside of dating apps, where I also get shut out. I'm trying to lose about 20 pounds to improve my chances on apps... that looks like the only way forward.
If this cut stays on schedule, I'll be at goal weight right around my 28th birthday. Let's say I get there, and that leads to some matches from sloots. What the hell's the endgame there?
-Most sloots my age are looong fukking taken, or just dog & dildo perma-slooting.
-Any sloots left are single for a reason.
-Get to fumble around and make high school level first date mistakes with sloots who are in a hurry/looking for marriage yesterday.
-Get to make high school level sexor mistakes with high body count sloots.
-Cannot expect to keep any sloot loyal while lacking the ability to replace her ASAP (redpill 101).
It's like what the fuk am I going through a 5-6 month long cut for? To whale out or get cucked after that? If you're starting from scratch at say 28, do you just go "fuk it, I missed the boat"?
So like you all know, I'm 27 and have never touched a woman. I have essentially zero access to women outside of dating apps, where I also get shut out. I'm trying to lose about 20 pounds to improve my chances on apps... that looks like the only way forward.
If this cut stays on schedule, I'll be at goal weight right around my 28th birthday. Let's say I get there, and that leads to some matches from sloots. What the hell's the endgame there?
-Most sloots my age are looong fukking taken, or just dog & dildo perma-slooting.
-Any sloots left are single for a reason.
-Get to fumble around and make high school level first date mistakes with sloots who are in a hurry/looking for marriage yesterday.
-Get to make high school level sexor mistakes with high body count sloots.
-Cannot expect to keep any sloot loyal while lacking the ability to replace her ASAP (redpill 101).
It's like what the fuk am I going through a 5-6 month long cut for? To whale out or get cucked after that? If you're starting from scratch at say 28, do you just go "fuk it, I missed the boat"?
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02-13-2023, 08:19 PM
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If you're White, just go to S Korea or Japan after the cut and they'll be chasing YOU....


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02-13-2023, 08:35 PM
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I'm not fat but I'm also 27 and virgin 😵💫 It really is tough, even if I find a grill 👩 it's like we'd most likely be completely different 🤔 like how can someone that doesn't have a normal life at all just settle with a grill 👩 who is certainly completely normal with friends, family, experiences, etc. 🤔🤔 I would just feel like I'm talking to a stranger all the time 😵💫🤦♂️
Also I just saw AshWar's thread and it reminds me of how badly I want to travel 🤔 where would that fit in here... since if you find a gf at this age, their clock for marriage and kids and chit is ticking 😔
Damn 😢
Also I just saw AshWar's thread and it reminds me of how badly I want to travel 🤔 where would that fit in here... since if you find a gf at this age, their clock for marriage and kids and chit is ticking 😔
Damn 😢
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02-13-2023, 08:43 PM
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Everyone on here seems to think it’s over even for Chad-lites…I don’t know the answer anymore bruh. Dating in a westernized society is like navigating a minefield.
02-13-2023, 08:45 PM
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Originally Posted By LDARidonot⏩
ogre lookBro I feel this. I was in a LTR for years, but for all intents and purposes I'm officially FA again. I've been on a cut, but the truth is that its stupid. Probably unpopular opinion. But cutting as a natty is a joke and just leads to twink mode. Its made me feel like shiit and gotten me weak as phuk. Like you say, all for what? Its not going to change anything. I've been twink, bloat and everything in between. And again, all for what? I go twink mode and there's still no good options. I'm not going to put myself through hell to have a chance with a 5/10. Let me just put it this way, every day dat dere looks more enticing. I'm not working my butt off to get a 5/10 bloatlord. 30 years old been there done that. phuk this shiit. Hope this helps

02-13-2023, 08:48 PM
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Originally Posted By N0stradamus⏩
At this point, I am so god damn tired of talking to foreigners. I was talking to one ****** last week who didn't know Salt Lake City existed. When you have to stop and explain chit like who is Tom Cruise, where is the state of Montana, John Denver isn't a new artist, he's actually dead, and what is the Super Bowl just to have a conversation, you can't really have a conversation at all.If you're White, just go to S Korea or Japan after the cut and they'll be chasing YOU....


It's been 85 days and counting since I've last spoken to a white person at work. 100% srs.
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02-13-2023, 08:51 PM
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When will you people learn that there's a much better life outside of dating apps? Who cares about how many people use them, be different. You've never touched a girl and you think you're gonna find a woman who's accepting of that on an app. Instead of going on a 5-6 month cut you need to get on a 5-6 month break from the misc and RP bs.
Look at the way you're talking about women without having experienced one bro. It's like miscers who watch WSHH all day and only interact with one black person a month. Don't let RP fool you, in order to getnormalgirls IRL you have to show them you care and like them. Not just try to look like an HVM playboy. That's for IG girls, strippers or hooters. Being a jaded virgin is getting in you way more than the 20lbs srs. Not saying to be a wk but you will crash and burn trying that kinda game.
Pick up meditation for a couple weeks or a month and join a league. Just be chill with them and over time you'll become familiar enough to take it further. Worry about all that stuff once you get one in front of you.
Look at the way you're talking about women without having experienced one bro. It's like miscers who watch WSHH all day and only interact with one black person a month. Don't let RP fool you, in order to getnormalgirls IRL you have to show them you care and like them. Not just try to look like an HVM playboy. That's for IG girls, strippers or hooters. Being a jaded virgin is getting in you way more than the 20lbs srs. Not saying to be a wk but you will crash and burn trying that kinda game.
Pick up meditation for a couple weeks or a month and join a league. Just be chill with them and over time you'll become familiar enough to take it further. Worry about all that stuff once you get one in front of you.
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lol dude chill out you're overthinking everything.
02-13-2023, 08:54 PM
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LMFAO Dog and Dildo sloot mode.
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02-13-2023, 09:04 PM
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You're 28... as a man. You're not even at your prime yet.
Your priority right now should be career, lifting, and losing your virginity. Who gives a fck what a girl thinks if you make mistakes. You have to drop this whole FA sht too, it's pretty terrible from a psych standpoint. You can do it bro.
Your priority right now should be career, lifting, and losing your virginity. Who gives a fck what a girl thinks if you make mistakes. You have to drop this whole FA sht too, it's pretty terrible from a psych standpoint. You can do it bro.
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Set yourself a goal of having a conversation with x number of new women per week (set x at slightly more than you currently think you can achieve).
Don't try and score, just converse. Get comfortable with talking to them. As your social skills develop, they will enjoy interacting with you more.
You are overthinking it.
Don't try and score, just converse. Get comfortable with talking to them. As your social skills develop, they will enjoy interacting with you more.
You are overthinking it.
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Originally Posted By JuicePro⏩
Exactly this.You're 28... as a man. You're not even at your prime yet.
Your priority right now should be career, lifting, and losing your virginity. Who gives a fck what a girl thinks if you make mistakes. You have to drop this whole FA sht too, it's pretty terrible from a psych standpoint. You can do it bro.
Your priority right now should be career, lifting, and losing your virginity. Who gives a fck what a girl thinks if you make mistakes. You have to drop this whole FA sht too, it's pretty terrible from a psych standpoint. You can do it bro.
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Not in the same situation as you OP but I get it. I'm 14 months celibate now because I decided I'd rather just wait to find a good girl to relationship/eventually wife instead of just having sex with random sloots.
It's way harder to find one than I even anticipated. So many women are deranged when it comes to life in general, especially a relationship. I can see why though because a lot of guys are too, but man...it's like a clown world pipe bomb went off and feminism took out the left overs.
You're in a tough go of things right now given the dating market. Girls are slootier than ever, but also pickier than ever. They're delusional most of them. They value themselves 3 pts higher than they really are.
I wish I could give you advice brah, but in this world now I can't. I just don't know anymore. The last date I went on was like talking to a brick house outside of traveling and experiences.
It's way harder to find one than I even anticipated. So many women are deranged when it comes to life in general, especially a relationship. I can see why though because a lot of guys are too, but man...it's like a clown world pipe bomb went off and feminism took out the left overs.
You're in a tough go of things right now given the dating market. Girls are slootier than ever, but also pickier than ever. They're delusional most of them. They value themselves 3 pts higher than they really are.
I wish I could give you advice brah, but in this world now I can't. I just don't know anymore. The last date I went on was like talking to a brick house outside of traveling and experiences.
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Originally Posted By JuicePro⏩
I'm 22 and in terms of looks I'm a 3/10. I'm 5'10 but not obese. Don't think I'm short or fat, so that's not holding me back from women.You're 28... as a man. You're not even at your prime yet.
Your priority right now should be career, lifting, and losing your virginity. Who gives a fck what a girl thinks if you make mistakes. You have to drop this whole FA sht too, it's pretty terrible from a psych standpoint. You can do it bro.
Your priority right now should be career, lifting, and losing your virginity. Who gives a fck what a girl thinks if you make mistakes. You have to drop this whole FA sht too, it's pretty terrible from a psych standpoint. You can do it bro.
Do I opt for surgical procedures to get better looking. Would a nosejob and some veneers help me out?
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Originally Posted By FA*******⏩
If you're 28 and a virgin with zero dating experience, the first thing you should do is drop the toxic, red pill trash mindset that all women still single at your age are worthless sloots with daddy issues and nothing to offer.Not spurred on by Valentine's Day, more of a diet/cut that's not been going well this last week.
So like you all know, I'm 27 and have never touched a woman. I have essentially zero access to women outside of dating apps, where I also get shut out. I'm trying to lose about 20 pounds to improve my chances on apps... that looks like the only way forward.
If this cut stays on schedule, I'll be at goal weight right around my 28th birthday. Let's say I get there, and that leads to some matches from sloots. What the hell's the endgame there?
-Most sloots my age are looong fukking taken, or just dog & dildo perma-slooting.
-Any sloots left are single for a reason.
-Get to fumble around and make high school level first date mistakes with sloots who are in a hurry/looking for marriage yesterday.
-Get to make high school level sexor mistakes with high body count sloots.
-Cannot expect to keep any sloot loyal while lacking the ability to replace her ASAP (redpill 101).
It's like what the fuk am I going through a 5-6 month long cut for? To whale out or get cucked after that? If you're starting from scratch at say 28, do you just go "fuk it, I missed the boat"?
So like you all know, I'm 27 and have never touched a woman. I have essentially zero access to women outside of dating apps, where I also get shut out. I'm trying to lose about 20 pounds to improve my chances on apps... that looks like the only way forward.
If this cut stays on schedule, I'll be at goal weight right around my 28th birthday. Let's say I get there, and that leads to some matches from sloots. What the hell's the endgame there?
-Most sloots my age are looong fukking taken, or just dog & dildo perma-slooting.
-Any sloots left are single for a reason.
-Get to fumble around and make high school level first date mistakes with sloots who are in a hurry/looking for marriage yesterday.
-Get to make high school level sexor mistakes with high body count sloots.
-Cannot expect to keep any sloot loyal while lacking the ability to replace her ASAP (redpill 101).
It's like what the fuk am I going through a 5-6 month long cut for? To whale out or get cucked after that? If you're starting from scratch at say 28, do you just go "fuk it, I missed the boat"?
There are plenty of exceptions (girls who just got out of ltrs), and you should be thinking of dating for new experiences at this point. There are miscers older than you (Pondus, Leoslayer) who still have fun dating. Drop this manosphere garbage mentality and go into it with an open mind.
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Originally Posted By Rebel012⏩
Rebel012, what do you think about surgical options for a 3/10 dude in terms of looksIf you're 28 and a virgin with zero dating experience, the forster thing you should do is drop the toxic, red pill trash mindset that all women still single at your age are worthless sloots with daddy issues and nothing to offer. There are plenty of exceptions (girls who just got out of ltrs), and you should be thinking of dating for new experiences at thos point. There are miscers older than you (Pondus, Leoslayer) who still have fun dating. Drop this manosphere garbage mentality and go into it with an open mind.
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Originally Posted By EscortMaxxing⏩
Not sure if trolling, but plastic surgery should be a last option, after you've tried to max out improvements in all other aspects (social life, status, fitness, career, etc).Rebel012, what do you think about surgical options for a 3/10 dude in terms of looks
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I think it's best to just go out and have fun socializing with women in the process. We men put so much thought in getting laid everything seems like a chore. How about just talking with women and enjoying their company? Go out, be fun, be loose.
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Originally Posted By FA*******⏩
why would you go out with a sloot your age.-Most sloots my age are looong fukking taken, or just dog & dildo perma-slooting.
-Any sloots left are single for a reason.
-Any sloots left are single for a reason.
im 32 and still got 22 year old girls trying to get my number srs
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Originally Posted By Rebel012⏩
Plastic surgery is underrated. If money isn't an issue I feel like most dudes should just go for it.Not sure if trolling, but plastic surgery should be a last option, after you've tried to max out improvements in all other aspects (social life, status, fitness, career, etc).
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Originally Posted By JuicePro⏩
its kinda silly to say this as a blanket statement.You're 28... as a man. You're not even at your prime yet.
in your 30's, you lose a lot of your looks. your average man is far from "in his prime" in his 30's, unless he was able to build something worthwhile.
im 32 and most guys my age look old and losing/thinning hair.
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OP those are all valid concerns, but what’s the alternative? Stay FA and wait to die?
I don’t want to sugar coat it, it’s grim out there for most men..but again, that’s the game. You either play it or not, and I’m not saying this to “motivate” you or any of that chit, it would be completely understandable if you decided to give up from the start.
One last thing I want to say though is that, even though your description is pretty accurate, there are still gems here and there..but of course those gems won’t be attracted to a skinny fat 28 year old virgin. So you got to get that experience with those less desirable women first.
And regarding not having any sex experience, you’re really thinking too much about it, you’ll learn fast. Make her cum first and you’re halfway there srs
I don’t want to sugar coat it, it’s grim out there for most men..but again, that’s the game. You either play it or not, and I’m not saying this to “motivate” you or any of that chit, it would be completely understandable if you decided to give up from the start.
One last thing I want to say though is that, even though your description is pretty accurate, there are still gems here and there..but of course those gems won’t be attracted to a skinny fat 28 year old virgin. So you got to get that experience with those less desirable women first.
And regarding not having any sex experience, you’re really thinking too much about it, you’ll learn fast. Make her cum first and you’re halfway there srs
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you may not believe me but I've seen dudes in their early 30s with the same situation as you, and seen them turn their life around.
Pick a physical hobby, preferrably one with girls, or any hobby where you talk to people , practice your social skills and just get out of your comfort zone, rinse and repeat relentlessly and things WILL improve
Pick a physical hobby, preferrably one with girls, or any hobby where you talk to people , practice your social skills and just get out of your comfort zone, rinse and repeat relentlessly and things WILL improve
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Originally Posted By plebmaximus⏩
You've seen dudes in their 30s turn it around? How so?you may not believe me but I've seen dudes in their early 30s with the same situation as you, and seen them turn their life around.
Pick a physical hobby, preferrably one with girls, or any hobby where you talk to people , practice your social skills and just get out of your comfort zone, rinse and repeat relentlessly and things WILL improve
Pick a physical hobby, preferrably one with girls, or any hobby where you talk to people , practice your social skills and just get out of your comfort zone, rinse and repeat relentlessly and things WILL improve
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Originally Posted By MikeLowrrrey⏩
hair transplant, TRT, getting a decent paying jobYou've seen dudes in their 30s turn it around? How so?
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