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Bread making: anyone here bake bread? Got any advice?

I've been meaning to do this for a while but I finally pulled the trigger on baking bread from scratch. My wife used to do sourdoughs in the past but I've never tried it. I wanted to make a generic whole wheat loaf to start to get a sense of how it all works. I understand the general chemistry behind fermentation as I'm an avid beer brewer myself. My goal is to get into baking my own multigrain burger buns and mixed grain loafs especially using rye. With inflation driving the price of commercial breads at the store through the roof, this makes sense too. Ironically, I don't really eat much bread, kind of like beer, but it's still fun and people around me here eat it.

Questions I had for experienced bread bakers:

I got some of that Fleischmann's instant yeast to start. Followed a recipe where you add dry ingredients together, add water/milk/sugar/oil to its own bowl and microwave till 120F or so, mix it all together to form a ball, rest ball for 10 min, knead for 6-8 min, shape in bread pan and let rise for one hour, then bake for 45min or so. I find the bread was good but it was a bit dense. My wife was telling me she used to let her breads rise for hours, even overnight, to make them more airy.

Any advice/tips would be highly welcome. Here are some pics:





Thanks in advance!

(also would love to see your creations if you want to share)
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If I was gonna make something that makes me fat it would be ice cream
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Originally Posted By wasp9166
If I was gonna make something that makes me fat it would be ice cream
That would be really fun. I'm sure it's not that difficult. I've made frozen protein yogurt fruit pops before, but that's it's own thing.
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Nice, we do a lot of bread. I only do sourdough. I'm not an expert at it, I just have one recipe I do over and over so I don't have much breadth in my experience but I am good at my one recipe. My wife has good wheat bread recipe and between the two of us we don't need to buy bread from the store.

I'm not sure how long she lets her bread raise. I'm miscing while she sleeps, but I'll ask her when she wakes up. I'll give the sourdough 3 or 4 hours sometimes, but I know hers rises faster. To me one hour sounds OK, but on the faster side. You could try again with 2 hours just to see what happens. It wouldn't hurt anything and might help. Another possibility is a yeast issue. Was it freshly bought? Old yeast doesn't work as well, and even if you just bought it it may have sat on a shelf for a while. You have to be careful not to get it too hot, too.
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Make sure the yeast has plenty of time to fully develop before consuming.

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Mm heat the milk sugar water and oil in a saucepot with a thermometer and stop it right at 110. Pour in a rectangular type object or like a large diameter dip such as a glass Pyrex measuring cup. Float the yeast on top and gently poke it wet with a skewer/pick.

Make sure it sets in a warm space for over 10min where it isn’t losing heat or gaining it really.

Then use that to mix.

It also doesn’t looked proofed enough it needs to rise more imo. Can look into elevation, minerals in your tap water that effect gluten development etc..

Using pans of water to effect humidity in oven to alter the wet and dry bulb temp are other things to play around with for crust development.
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I want to start making my own bread but I don't eat enough of it to warrant buying some bulky machine that will take up real estate in my kitchen.
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Wish I could help OP but baking is not my thing. I always fuk it up somehow. So making my own bread from scratch is not something I've tried. I've watch a few vids on it but I'll wait until this summer to try it myself.

Will be using this thread for tips.
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Originally Posted By Maestro
I want to start making my own bread but I don't eat enough of it to warrant buying some bulky machine that will take up real estate in my kitchen.
An oven?

Even a mixer is optional but most people have one already.
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Originally Posted By Maestro
I want to start making my own bread but I don't eat enough of it to warrant buying some bulky machine that will take up real estate in my kitchen.
You don't need a machine to make bread.

OP looks like you got some good info. I used to bake bread but haven't for a long time. It just takes practice and trying different things to find what works best.
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I let my air rise much longer, because it's the 'self-kneading' principle.

My bread:

Flour, salt, yeast, water (I do about a 75% hydration) in a mixing bowl and mix. Cover, leave on my counter overnight. Next day I put it in the fridge for a bit, then before baking I take it out and shape it (this is key - make it tight so it doesn't spread everywhere and has great rise) and leave it for about 2 hours.

I bake it in a covered dutch oven for about 25 minutes, then take the lid off to color the outside, another 20 minutes usually.


This technique is so easy and only requires a dutch oven (covered pot, really) and an oven. We went down this path after finding that the vast majority of bread places we come across are sub-par, and worse, use things like soy lecithin in their breads.

EDIT: here's an example, my olive bread variation. I was experimenting here with larger cuts of olive in the loaf and it was so nice. This in slices, with some ricotta, olive oil, salt and pepper. Heaven.

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We have a few stores in town that make it for you, so I just buy it.
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those bread making machines make things a snap. i dunno if thats what you used. you just throw stuff in and it comes out a loaf.
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Originally Posted By lightsarefallin
I've been meaning to do this for a while but I finally pulled the trigger on baking bread from scratch. My wife used to do sourdoughs in the past but I've never tried it. I wanted to make a generic whole wheat loaf to start to get a sense of how it all works. I understand the general chemistry behind fermentation as I'm an avid beer brewer myself. My goal is to get into baking my own multigrain burger buns and mixed grain loafs especially using rye. With inflation driving the price of commercial breads at the store through the roof, this makes sense too. Ironically, I don't really eat much bread, kind of like beer, but it's still fun and people around me here eat it.

Questions I had for experienced bread bakers:

I got some of that Fleischmann's instant yeast to start. Followed a recipe where you add dry ingredients together, add water/milk/sugar/oil to its own bowl and microwave till 120F or so, mix it all together to form a ball, rest ball for 10 min, knead for 6-8 min, shape in bread pan and let rise for one hour, then bake for 45min or so. I find the bread was good but it was a bit dense. My wife was telling me she used to let her breads rise for hours, even overnight, to make them more airy.

Any advice/tips would be highly welcome. Here are some pics:





Thanks in advance!

(also would love to see your creations if you want to share)
My moms mom used to make killer bread. Wish I watched her do it tbh. It’s kind of scary that a loaf of store bought bread can sit for a month and not go bad. Hers would be stale in 2 days.
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fun fact you can make sourdough with grool
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if it takes 3 hours to bake a loaf of bread and you have 5 ovens. how long would it take you to make 6 gorrilian loaves?

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Oil can make it dense since it hinders gluten development or some chit. That’s why they don’t put it in pizza dough. You should be measuring everything if you aren’t. Can let it rise overnight in fridge. Also could check yeast first with the water/sugar/milk to see if it bubbles after a few mins. You may have heated it up to much and killed the yeast
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Thank a lot to everyone who posted ITT. This looks like some really good info and stuff to incorporate. I've been away/busy but will swoop in like a sexual predator to spread some rapes around ITT soon!
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