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What do ppl who are in “sales” actually do ? (Srs)

I legit have no idea what people mean when they say this. Do they just cold or warm call all day? I don’t even know if warm calling is a thing tbh. Misc salesmen explain yourselves.
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You just meet with people

For example tmw I’m going to BC to meet clients and prospects for a week … a bunch of lunches, a few dinners, 2 presentations and then some quick 15 min coffee and office meetings

Renting a box at a Canucks game then I’m taking some of our best clients to Whistler on a bus I rented
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Depends on which kind of sales. In enterprise sales you're the representative of your company and the one who takes ownership of the customer relationship. It's important for a customer to have that direct contact and somebody who feels responsible, because most other departments will just duck away when sht is not going right. In the end the sales team are the only people really giving a fukk because they're the ones who's salery will be impacted if the customer leaves.
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Originally Posted By notbadnotbrad⏩
You just meet with people

For example tmw I’m going to BC to meet clients and prospects for a week … a bunch of lunches, a few dinners, 2 presentations and then some quick 15 min coffee and office meetings

Renting a box at a Canucks game then I’m taking some of our best clients to Whistler on a bus I rented
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I have always asked this question as well. Seems like a job that is quite redundant and not needed.

"Sales."

It should be called "schmoozing" or "catering".
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I think theyre the person you speak to when you inqiure about a product.
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Socialize, then insert the pitch when the client is wet and ready.
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Basically you're the liason between the customer/client and the main company. This can sometimes mean taking orders, but it can also mean keeping strong relationships, showing them new products and also trying to generate new business within whatever territory you have by taking business away from your competitors. Sometimes salespeople are called "account managers" for that reason.
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A brah on my flag football team was in sales for an internet site. His job was cold calling all day, srs. Even prospects he'd already called 3x before, and had notes on their file saying they'd rejected his place 3x before, he'd call a 4th time.
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Originally Posted By WoofieNugget⏩
Basically you're the liason between the customer/client and the main company. This can sometimes mean taking orders, but it can also mean keeping strong relationships, showing them new products and also trying to generate new business within whatever territory you have by taking business away from your competitors. Sometimes salespeople are called "account managers" for that reason.
on mobile so I can’t multiquote but this applies to brad and proudkraut’s answers as well. On what basis would a client take your advice on what to buy tho? Like what level of knowledge/credentials are required? People are always like ‘get into sales’ but don’t you need some really strong familiarity with the industry before you start shilling ppl hundreds of thousands of dollars worth of product or service? Or do they just go along with it if they like you?
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Originally Posted By DimTriad⏩
on mobile so I can’t multiquote but this applies to brad and proudkraut’s answers as well. On what basis would a client take your advice on what to buy tho? Like what level of knowledge/credentials are required? People are always like ‘get into sales’ but don’t you need some really strong familiarity with the industry before you start shilling ppl hundreds of thousands of dollars worth of product or service? Or do they just go along with it if they like you?
Depends on the product, really. Something like a car is easily learned, same with things like office equipment, etc. Because medical sales is always to old white men most of the sales reps are hot women. The clients often don't want to do any research, they just want a solution to their problem so the salesperson just has to have enough to convince them that the product they are offering is better than the one the other guy is.

For example, I did photocopier sales back in the day for Xerox and we had to know specs and things like how they compared to other units the other guys were offering.
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They work at retail stores at the mall. Even in those little kiosks, and they keep asking if you would like to try a free sample...
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It’s easy. We sell stuff.
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they negotiate
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Originally Posted By WoofieNugget⏩
Basically you're the liason between the customer/client and the main company. This can sometimes mean taking orders, but it can also mean keeping strong relationships, showing them new products and also trying to generate new business within whatever territory you have by taking business away from your competitors. Sometimes salespeople are called "account managers" for that reason.
Originally Posted By notbadnotbrad⏩
You just meet with people

For example tmw I’m going to BC to meet clients and prospects for a week … a bunch of lunches, a few dinners, 2 presentations and then some quick 15 min coffee and office meetings

Renting a box at a Canucks game then I’m taking some of our best clients to Whistler on a bus I rented
how dumb though.

maybe im missing the intricacies but how often does a "salesman" take someone with 0 interest and suddenly reverse that and have them interested?

they either have a need or they don't

similarly, if they're already a customer. they either need your product or they don't

maybe if you could find a need you didn't know existed, but even still.. that customer would have to be looking for it.
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I'm not in sales but my retired father was. He viewed it largely as solving problems for customers. He also would entertain clients. Dad could have been a stand up comic if he hadn't been in sales.
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They legit try to sell you the dream.
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Originally Posted By propreffered7⏩
how dumb though.

maybe im missing the intricacies but how often does a "salesman" take someone with 0 interest and suddenly reverse that and have them interested?

they either have a need or they don't

similarly, if they're already a customer. they either need your product or they don't

maybe if you could find a need you didn't know existed, but even still.. that customer would have to be looking for it.
Sometimes it’s a timing thing

So you gotta maintain the relationship and stay on top of guys so when they’re ready to pull the trigger you’re their go to

For my industry it typically takes 6-12 months to close a deal
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They try to convince you to waste your hard earned money on crap most people can't afford, not caring if it's placing you in financial hardship to pay your next bill. (Ded fkn Srs)
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Originally Posted By DimTriad⏩
I legit have no idea what people mean when they say this. Do they just cold or warm call all day? I don’t even know if warm calling is a thing tbh. Misc salesmen explain yourselves.
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It all depends. I work in sales and don't meet with people or do cold calling. We have a stream of requests flowing in and we simply gauge those requests for money making opportunities and prioritize accordingly. It's a cakewalk.
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Originally Posted By notbadnotbrad⏩
Sometimes it’s a timing thing

So you gotta maintain the relationship and stay on top of guys so when they’re ready to pull the trigger you’re their go to

For my industry it typically takes 6-12 months to close a deal
That's true... some of the intricacies I'm talking about


BUT regarding your "meeting". Does it really influence anything when you go out for drinks and take them to a Canucks game? Suddenly, they'll switch their interest if they weren't interested to interested solely because of that?

I get it you're staying in their face and maintaining but kinda seems like a waste of money.. but fun for you
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Originally Posted By Lefticle⏩
It’s easy. We sell stuff.
if I remember right you sell construction material or something? Without doxxing yourself what kind of background do you have that ppl would buy large quantities of raw material from you? Also why doesn’t someone on the buyer side just do the research/math and place the order directly w/ the supplier and cut salespeople out?

This thread has actually been helpful tho thanks to everyone who replied
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Originally Posted By propreffered7⏩
That's true... some of the intricacies I'm talking about


BUT regarding your "meeting". Does it really influence anything when you go out for drinks and take them to a Canucks game? Suddenly, they'll switch their interest if they weren't interested to interested solely because of that?

I get it you're staying in their face and maintaining but kinda seems like a waste of money.. but fun for you
It’s just the way the industry is

I think all the fluff like sports games, fancy dinners, lunches, golf etc is pointless and you could do the same job by going back and forth via email

But these guys want to be wined and dined, other companies are doing it and so you have to play the game or get left out

I think the whole concept is retarded tho - brb flying to BC tmw and being put up in hotels for a week on the companies dime when I could have easily just sent a few emails on the product lmao, kill me
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Originally Posted By notbadnotbrad⏩
It’s just the way the industry is

I think all the fluff like sports games, fancy dinners, lunches, golf etc is pointless and you could do the same job by going back and forth via email

But these guys want to be wined and dined, other companies are doing it and so you have to play the game or get left out

I think the whole concept is retarded tho - brb flying to BC tmw and being put up in hotels for a week on the companies dime when I could have easily just sent a few emails on the product lmao, kill me
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