when Russia invaded Ukraine, all of the conservatives sided with Russia, most without having any knowledge about the geopolitical situation in that area

Are they retarded or do they have a reason for siding with Russia?

They are retarded. It's ironic that neonazis in the US side with antifascist Russia. But what would you expect? "Conservative" in America is code for "idiot". There is no consistent ideology other than whining. They see spending, and they don't like it. Americans, liberal or conservative, are stupid, easily manipulated people. The few smart conservatives in power are warmongering fascist imperials and understand this war serves their interests in destroying Russian equipment, containing their economy, and killing their military. But they can't sell it to the rabble that follow them.

And those of us who oppose fascism intend to use this against them. Weaponized retardation will bring an end to the neocons.

lmao @ miscers being pro russia

bottom line is russia is at fault for invading another country

"b-b-but russia was pushed into a corner, daddy putin had no choice"


doesn't make it right

It's not right, but it was expected. If we cared to prevent this war, we could have. We didn't.

imagine being schooled by wincel....

It was this commercial that sealed the deal for me

i agree, the US is massively profiting off of this war but just fukin lol @ miscers labelling any ounce of support for ukrainian lives as "dumb liberal brainwashing"

as if innocent people deserve to get bombed & killed. genuinely shocked at how many miscers seem to be okay with invading a sovereign nation just because putin got upset

If Canada was allowing Russia to set up positions close to the US border, and continued to do so after the US told them to stop, you think the US going into Canada to take control of the area and stop the Russian encroachment would be unwarranted? And if Canada decided to fight the US, the US should just retreat and let Russia have that position?

Let's get some facts going that seem to blow over retards heads or get censored on most sites:

NATO was created to counter the USSR's power.
The USSR hasn't existed since 1991.
NATO still exists, and they have been building military bases and putting missles around Russia's borders.
Putin has said for decades that Ukraine should be a buffer zone, and that is his red line.
Obama installs a Washington-friendly Government in Ukraine in 2014
Kamala harris flew to Munich in Feb 2022 to give her speech on why Ukraine should join NATO
Not even one week later, Putin invades.



They will not allow Putin to join NATO, because they need him as the bad guy. Russia is a sovereign nation that is not under the jews in washington's thumb.

This invasion is more justifiable than ANY invasion America have ever done.

because Ukraine has globohomo Jewish Nazi biolabs where trannies like 'Caitlyn' Jenner were created

It would be similar to if Texas seceded from the Union
And China was extremely hostile towards USA, and so they installed a pro-China government in Texas

Would the USA then allow Texas to set up nukes and military bases around its borders? somehow i do not think they would.

This won't register with you braindead sheep, but people you consider 'pro-Russia' are actually just anti-WW3 and anti-money laundering.

Considering the only way this ever ends is if and when Russia inevitably steamrolls Ukraine, that ultimately makes me 'support' Russia. Because this is a neverending conflict otherwise.

[QUOTE=Leonydus post_id=1678459303]Let's get some facts going that seem to blow over retards heads or get censored on most sites:

NATO was created to counter the USSR's power.
The USSR hasn't existed since 1991.
NATO still exists, and they have been building military bases and putting missles around Russia's borders.
[b]Putin has said for decades that Ukraine should be a buffer zone, and that is his red line.[/b]
Obama installs a Washington-friendly Government in Ukraine in 2014
Kamala harris flew to Munich in Feb 2022 to give her speech on why Ukraine should join NATO
Not even one week later, Putin invades.
[img]https://i.imgur.com/tYF3fdV.jpg[img]


They will not allow Putin to join NATO, because they need him as the bad guy. Russia is a sovereign nation that is not under the jews in washington's thumb.

This invasion is more justifiable than ANY invasion Americans have ever done.[/QUOTE]
this is like getting in a new relationship and your ex deciding who you can and can't date lol

[QUOTE=Leonydus post_id=1678459303]Let's get some facts going that seem to blow over retards heads or get censored on most sites:

NATO was created to counter the USSR's power.
The USSR hasn't existed since 1991.
NATO still exists, and they have been building military bases and putting missles around Russia's borders.
Putin has said for decades that Ukraine should be a buffer zone, and that is his red line.
Obama installs a Washington-friendly Government in Ukraine in 2014
Kamala harris flew to Munich in Feb 2022 to give her speech on why Ukraine should join NATO
Not even one week later, Putin invades.
[img]https://i.imgur.com/tYF3fdV.jpg[/img


They will not allow Putin to join NATO, because they need him as the bad guy. Russia is a sovereign nation that is not under the jews in washington's thumb.

This invasion is more justifiable than ANY invasion America have ever done.[/QUOTE]but bro like, come on bro, Ukraine is a sovereign nation bro, can't just, like, have countries starting wars and stuff bro

on a serious note, you have a video of kamala harris' speech? would like to see that

anti-ww3 but supporting an active war and hoping a sovereign nation gets taken over Lmao

you can be anti-money laundering without being pro russia and pro killing of innocent lives.

Room temperature IQ comment. I know this is difficult for liberals, but try not to be an emotional ******* for just one second.

Russia is now in Ukraine. No matter how much you bitch and whine about a 'sovereign nation', that is what it is.

Now look forward.

Will Putin ever retreat? No.
Will Ukraine surrender? Not as long as they have NATO support.

SIMPLE logic therefore dictates, that the ONLY reason people are currently dying, is because NATO is supplying Ukraine.

If this does not register in your head, nothing will. Get your booster and turn on MSNBC.

edit: you must be that stupid though, considering you don't know the difference between world war 3 and Russia vs. fking Ukraine lmao

some people still think NATO is the good guys... yeah they are good at fuking with other countries and toppling their governments while spamming the public with the justification via MSM.

That sovereign nation was not being "taken over" by anyone until the US aggressively took many steps to be in control of that sovereign nation, which would be a major threat to Russia. The US initiated the steps into war through NATO. Russia made moves to defend itself, then dummies like you point and say "invasion!"

Critical-thinkers absolutely annihilating liberals itt

They do not, but this is on Ukraine'a govt for not taking Minsk 2 seriously. Zelensky was elected to make the peace deal and implement the ceasefires. He had broad support from both sides of the Donbass conflict. But the far right mocked him and threatened his life.

Putin cannot take and hold all of Ukraine. If the US were srs about ending this, we'd provide a guarantee of no NATO expansion and allow Putin to keep Donetsk, Crimea, and Lugansk, along with a guarantee of Russian language rights and protection of ethnic Russians in Ukraine. I believe he would stop if those conditions were met.

Who took Russia's side by default? You didn't see Republicans lining up to say "I stand with Russia"

You saw the Democrats line up to support Ukraine without even knowing the situation though

Because the corrupt Western establishment is a greater evil for the world than Putin and his mafia goons. Also you could argue that they were the original aggressors in this war. If you shove somebody 5 times then when they punch back, who is the true aggressor?

This war shouldn't be happening at all it could have easily been avoided if it weren't for the greed of the elites on both sides

Yeah, I didn't see anyone saying, "I support Russia in this conflict." I saw people suggesting that maybe there are uses for $100B+ that more directly serve the interests of Americans.

I honestly do the opposite of what my government wants me to do because they have the opposite of my interests at heart. My enemies enemy is my friend. My government wants an endless stream of immigrants and stoked divisive politics to get each side to hate one another. My government says I have no culture and that I'm the problem with society despite being a hardworking friendly and kind person. My government forced me out of my job because they wanted to coerce me into taking an untested jab.

US had every chance in the book to usher in peace and all they did was enable the war so they could spend US tax dollars to fund the military industrial complex and sacrifice Ukranian citizens in order to enrich the coffers of Northrup, Boeing, Raytheon ETC ETC.

-Estimates of the cost of the rebuild Ukraine are multiple trillion
-Hundreds of thousands of families will have lasting inter generational trauma
-Ukrainian government one of the most corrupt and was installed via a US led coup
-Multiple US senators then put their children on the board of multiple Ukrainian countries with $500k salaries
-Thousands upon thousands of orphans will grow up without a dad
-CIA trained literal neo nazis to form a militia that shelled majority Russian cities in Ukraine

This was all preventable and now I just hope the US and Ukraine get rekt. Doesn't matter as long as US military corporations get paid. Has anyone realized that US pushing Ukraine to JOIN NATO FOR ITS SAFETY!!! Has completely ensured Ukraine's destruction? Ukraine is done. It will NEVER be a fraction of what it was which wasn't much. The state of Ukraine will take 40 to 50 years to recover from this, it's over. What was the point of wanting to join NATO? It's over, you're nothing now. Families, infrastructure, a future, it's all done. It's over.

NATO is a defensive alliance by nature and forces were building up in response to Russia's aggressive actions over the years, Russia wasn't pushed into doing anything.

Same reason liberals were apologists for the Taliban post 9/11. If your enemy takes a position you hedge bets and try to oppose it in whatever way feasible.

I'm not pro-Russia but I'm certainly anti-funding Ukrainian efforts.

What the hell kind of misleading post is this? Most conservatives don't side with Russia. I'm right leaning myself, I don't support Russia's war. Russia isn't lying when they say that NATO is against them and we (as a part of NATO) were creeping up on their doorstep, but, that doesn't at all mean that I support the war or their plans there.


You know, it's a pretty unintelligent move for both of you to bundle an estimated 100+ million humans in the US into one group.


Also, if you want to pick a topic and debate it, post it. Let's hear why you think you're so much more intelligent. Follow through

If you had a limited budget, would you spend that money on bettering US and for citizens in need or for giving it to another country to fight their war?

Their argument is so silly and short-sighted, that it boils down to "I support giving Ukraine money because it is a sovereign nation, and if countless Ukrainians have to die to defend it, then so be it."