You have to have a house with a charging system setup. Apartment peasants? That’s half the damn country. You think new builds are going to have a charging system for every unit? Lmao. Then you got house rentals, not happening in those either. Condos? Doubtful.

So your market is just straight up residential homeowners? Not sure if you seen the news lately but this next generation of ****guets can’t seem to buy homes much less survive.

We haven’t even talked about the commercial and industrial side automotive portions.

EV the future…. Hahahahahahahahaha

I have not seen a single irl person convince "strata" to install charging stations.

Maybe in new builds where only a renter is allowed to live, and then it is priced accordingly so they have to pay the same as the price of gas LOL

Its really sad we are getting destroyed by retards, best save money and mogmax by being a landlord.

You'll be in 15 minute cities, if you don't have a home to charge an EV, it will be a bicycle for you. srs

Even if they were given away free, the electrical grid will not be able to handle even a 20% increase in EVs. So it's not even a fantasy, it's just completely made up.

this is completely true

California has this massive hard on for electrification meanwhile they had rolling blackouts from the heatwave this past summer

they've introduced even more bills this past year for even MORE electrification

the best part is that they have no idea how they're even gonna make it work, complete fantasyland

That’s a feature not a glitch

A lot of people in condos and apartments have teslas. They go to the charging stations when they need to before coming home. It's not hard, they're everywhere on the coasts or hub cities

pUbLiC tRaNsPoRtAtIoN!!!!!!

Battery powered cars are basically disposable cars. You pay up the ass for one, get to experience the joy of having your range deplete over time, only to eventually have a brick of a car that will cost more than it's worth to replace the batteries on in a decades time.

This is also why they're retarded to buy used. It's pushing far more consumerism among the car market, basically trying to force people into buying new cars all the time.

Which needs them to live near a DC Fast Charger (15 minutes for 200 miles), otherwise it's hours or days for a full charge. Not exactly the best of time on your way home for the evening.

I own a home. Put a standard covered outlet outside for my PHEV. Takes me 5 hours to get 15 miles of travel time, which is the full extent to my battery (more or less, it varies wildly depending on the weather).

Pure chit -- although for my daily driver it's great. I get to work, charge, come home, repeat, never use a drop of gas during the week. That 10.8 gallon tank lasts a month for me.

However, my situation: Home owner, only need about 10 miles to get back and 10 more forth and have a PHEV and not fully EV, ... all that is not going to work for most Americans.

I don't have a fast charger, don't need one, but I believe it would reduce the charge time by 60-70%. I could get those 15 miles in just over an hour, I guess.Maybe. I wouldn't want to waste 1-2 hours a day, even with the fastest charging stations.

The newer stuff coming out is quicker

Tesla’s super charging stations are 200 miles in 15 min.


I don’t own one, but those charging stations are plentiful around here.

My sons college roomate has a Tesla - charges it once a week at a rapid charger at target - gets a little over 300 in 20ish min.


https://www.tesla.com/support/charging

Apartment dwellers don’t have gas pumps at their apartment either

What they don't tell you about that is how fast charging ruins your batteries longevity.

It's in the fine print, the stuff they try to hide from you.

The 70 percent of solar energy the Earth absorbs per year equals roughly 3.85 million exajoules. In other words, the amount of solar energy hitting the earth in one hour is more than enough to power the world for one year. We’re not doing a very good job at harvesting all that free energy, lol.

Probably because you have a lot to learn about solar.

Let me guess, you’re an expert on it.

Pre 2018 packs more so - not as much on the newer ones.

Teslas software constantly makes adjustments to protect the battery health when charging - and use.

What may happen after a while is it takes a min or 2 longer to charge it as the software will throttle the rate.

The software control of the charging, and battery protection , is amazing.



That said - it is optimal to leave it plugged in as much as possible - but if you can’t it’s really not that big of a deal

https://www.tesla.com/ownersmanual/m...641FFAEF4.html

Stay on thread topic kid

Storms just totally bent parts of the entire country over a barrel and left millions without electricity; those who are so antsy for the country to transition right over to electric vehicles are living in a bloody fantasy reality where that doesn't happen every single year.

If only we couldbuildthe infrastructureback, but, um,better. Too bad all of the billions that it would take are being pissed away on some former Eastern Bloc scheisse hole.

On the subject of both the green zealots and government (currently the same thing), they aren't doing any favors byreducingthe write-offs for all things EV. That is including but not limited to just the vehicle itself, as there are possibly necessary home circuit upgrades for the chargers, and as I touch on below, that could be further extended to upgrading the rest of the home for solar and batteries precisely because of how outrageously expensive that one-two combo is for most Americans.

And it's early, so I'm not going to even go down the whole rabbit hole of mineral mining for the EV batteries being its own little ecological nightmare with a hdyra's worth of little oil lobby adjacent assh oles and green grifters at the ready to pounce, some already having an early lead (e.g.an electric-fukking-road, a.k.a. the dumbest thing possibly ever conceived, and for Michigan of all places).
No joke, but electric companies are partially to blame for making home charging and especially the notion of being off the grid extremely cost prohibitive.

I'm not going to get into the nitty gritty because we're talking every single electric company and each state with their own nitty gritty legalese bullshiit that allows them to get away with this across enough of the country to create an extra layer of resistance. The first being the astronomical cost with piddling write-offs despite the government's supposed love affair with "going green."

Well I clearly know more than you on the subject.So unproven technology will supposedly fix inherent flaws related to the science behind the technology. Gotcha.

i know some apartments are offering installing charging stations at their parking spots. not sure how much it costs but that's pretty convenient. it's probably not that ubiquitious. and with a lot of people being rent-cels, not that convenient.

this isn't really an issue with Tesla if you live closer to the city or even in the suburbs. charging stations are everywhere. even a lot of malls have them. park your car then charge.


I agree though non-Tesla EVs are not that convenient, esp if you need to haul chit or travel long distance, or go to areas that lack infrastructure. alot of people are poor so there is that too.

it might be there in the next 15-20 years.

EVs aren't the future, they are a stepping block to have people rely on public transportation IE government run transportation.

Like I said disposable cars and no used market if the car is approaching a decade old. That basically cancels out a lot of people who could current afford something old and basic, and it makes people reliant upon a consumerism heavy manufacturing industry (which will ironically lead to far worse CO2 emissions from the car industry).

Apparently a lot of people are under the incorrect assumption that they're stupid for pushing out ICE's for EV's.

If ICE's are banned, and half the population can't even have access to them, now freedom of movement isn't a thing anymore. That's a goal checked off.

I stand corrected. I just plug my BMW into a wall outlet, but clearly tech has moved forward

LOL can you imagine the brawls at apartment complex chargers if even a third of the residents have an EV?

If it's anything like how they fight over the apartments gas pumps it's gonna be nuts.

It's actually not that hard, OP.

And if it is, it's for another reason: that the materials needed for next gen power cells are found in large quantities on the deep sea bed. After Macron and others came out and called for an international moratorium on deep sea mining, in the Area (beyond national jurisdiction), this'll become a tricky negotiation this year.

Anyone looking to hedge on Nori...lol.

I think bio-fuel is a better and safer alternative that also allows us to drive any vehicle we want.

Still in development for mass production, but better IMO.