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03-09-2023, 09:42 PM
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IRS's calls for thieves to report stolen income
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According to IRS Publication 525, taxpayers are legally required to report the value of whatever property they stole during the tax year.
"If you steal property, you must report its FMV (Fair Market Value) in your income in the year you steal it, unless in the same year you return it to its rightful owner," the rule reads.
The same rule applies to bribery, drug deals and other income-earning crimes.
According to IRS Publication 525, taxpayers are legally required to report the value of whatever property they stole during the tax year.
"If you steal property, you must report its FMV (Fair Market Value) in your income in the year you steal it, unless in the same year you return it to its rightful owner," the rule reads.
The same rule applies to bribery, drug deals and other income-earning crimes.
03-09-2023, 09:48 PM
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03-10-2023, 03:02 AM
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Originally Posted By Zelensky⏩
This.OK then the IRS needs to report 100% of their income as its all stolen
03-10-2023, 03:39 AM
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Just like when the government reports all the money it's lost or blown
03-10-2023, 05:20 AM
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What happens when a thief reports their stolen income?
IRS: "Thank you, be sure to steal again!"
No cuffs, no inquiries, and not even a long scientific evaluation on what would be an example of one of the dumbest humans on the planet to understand how they made it that far in life while somehow avoiding natural selection's even lowest efforts.
The illusion of representation every two years doesn't disqualify the country's original rallying call of, "no taxation without representation." The Found Fathers would be bowing their heads in shame.
IRS: "Thank you, be sure to steal again!"
No cuffs, no inquiries, and not even a long scientific evaluation on what would be an example of one of the dumbest humans on the planet to understand how they made it that far in life while somehow avoiding natural selection's even lowest efforts.
Originally Posted By LargePeter⏩
This.Proceeds of theft need to be reported for taxation purposes despite taxation being theft lmao
The illusion of representation every two years doesn't disqualify the country's original rallying call of, "no taxation without representation." The Found Fathers would be bowing their heads in shame.
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03-10-2023, 05:45 AM
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Zelensky gonna file taxes this year? Because he's just stolen a couple hundred billion dollars.
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03-10-2023, 06:17 AM
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IRS is only expanding and getting more power to collect
they dont care how you get money as long as they get their cut
they dont care how you get money as long as they get their cut
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03-10-2023, 08:39 AM
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Originally Posted By Leonydus⏩
It's absolutely real. Remember Al Capone got brought down because of tax evasion.this cant be real
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03-10-2023, 09:36 AM
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Originally Posted By JoshSP1985⏩
it's not new eitherIt's absolutely real. Remember Al Capone got brought down because of tax evasion.
03-10-2023, 10:24 AM
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Wouldn't you only report the income after you fence the stolen goods and realize the gain?
If I steal a TV set, the FMV of that TV is zero, which is what it cost me to obtain it. If I sell the TV for $300, then I have $300 profit on which I can be taxed.
If I steal a TV set, the FMV of that TV is zero, which is what it cost me to obtain it. If I sell the TV for $300, then I have $300 profit on which I can be taxed.
03-10-2023, 12:03 PM
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Originally Posted By SmithMachineGuy⏩
No,Wouldn't you only report the income after you fence the stolen goods and realize the gain?
If I steal a TV set, the FMV of that TV is zero, which is what it cost me to obtain it. If I sell the TV for $300, then I have $300 profit on which I can be taxed.
If I steal a TV set, the FMV of that TV is zero, which is what it cost me to obtain it. If I sell the TV for $300, then I have $300 profit on which I can be taxed.
If someone gives you a house you pay cap gains. You don't have to convert an asset into cash for it to have a value.
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lmao brahs its real because then the feds can lock you up for failure to report stolen goods as income even if they cant pin the theft on you
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Originally Posted By Procta⏩
Except that if someone commits a crime, they can report the proceeds of that crime to avoid a plenitude of other charges. Or is crime X + (other charges) worth it? I wouldn't think so.IRS is only expanding and getting more power to collect
they dont care how you get money as long as they get their cut
they dont care how you get money as long as they get their cut
Or is the mantra on this forum "all taxation is theft"?
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Originally Posted By LogicalLifts⏩
all taxation is theftExcept that if someone commits a crime, they can report the proceeds of that crime to avoid a plenitude of other charges. Or is crime X + (other charges) worth it? I wouldn't think so.
Or is the mantra on this forum "all taxation is theft"?
Or is the mantra on this forum "all taxation is theft"?
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Originally Posted By Cleveland33⏩
The Tax Man always gets his cut.all taxation is theft
Let it sink in.
All USA enforcement authorities do, from CBP, ICE, FBI, etc.
Let that sink in as well.
Or is the mantra on this forum "there is no authority over me" - hence the hate for all LEOs?
03-10-2023, 01:23 PM
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Originally Posted By LogicalLifts⏩
that doesn't change the fact that taxation is theftThe Tax Man always gets his cut.
Let it sink in.
All USA enforcement authorities do, from CBP, ICE, FBI, etc.
Let that sink in as well.
Or is the mantra on this forum "there is no authority over me" - hence the hate for all LEOs?
Let it sink in.
All USA enforcement authorities do, from CBP, ICE, FBI, etc.
Let that sink in as well.
Or is the mantra on this forum "there is no authority over me" - hence the hate for all LEOs?
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Originally Posted By Cleveland33⏩
Stating something twice doesn't make it a fact.that doesn't change the fact that taxation is theft
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Originally Posted By NKWulf⏩
Zelenski.laughing. gifhttps://www.foxbusiness.com/financia...come-good-know
According to IRS Publication 525, taxpayers are legally required to report the value of whatever property they stole during the tax year.
"If you steal property, you must report its FMV (Fair Market Value) in your income in the year you steal it, unless in the same year you return it to its rightful owner," the rule reads.
The same rule applies to bribery, drug deals and other income-earning crimes.
According to IRS Publication 525, taxpayers are legally required to report the value of whatever property they stole during the tax year.
"If you steal property, you must report its FMV (Fair Market Value) in your income in the year you steal it, unless in the same year you return it to its rightful owner," the rule reads.
The same rule applies to bribery, drug deals and other income-earning crimes.
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So, if a playah takes 20% of my dope stash and doesn't pay me, besides my boys paying him a visit, can I write off that 20% loss?
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Originally Posted By Mark1T⏩
I think only if you are a dealer.So, if a playah takes 20% of my dope stash and doesn't pay me, besides my boys paying him a visit, can I write off that 20% loss?
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Originally Posted By Mark1T⏩
Damn now we're thinking.So, if a playah takes 20% of my dope stash and doesn't pay me, besides my boys paying him a visit, can I write off that 20% loss?
Is there a specific form to use to claim/report taxes related to stolen goods?
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