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post 1678832313 03-12-2023, 02:30 PM
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Games From 20+ Years Ago Still Look Good (discussion)

I notice more and more 2k/4k upscale videos with PS2, Xbox and Gamecube games running on emulators. Seems that the biggest problem with older games was the low resolution textures and poor lighting/reflections. Otherwise, the games looked great, which is why they look so good on emulators.


2001 - PS2


2003 - PS2


2002 - Xbox


2002 - Gamecube
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Depends on the game imo. More stylized games age a lot better than games going for “realism”.

Okami and Zelda: Windwaker are timeless for example. Okami in hd:

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Originally Posted By ScramFranklin⏩
Depends on the game imo. More stylized games age a lot better than games going for “realism”.

Okami and Zelda: Windwaker are timeless for example. Okami in hd:

I agree. Impressed with character models from Silent Hill 3, though. Many games back then still used MS Paint texture wrapping over low polygon count, lol.
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Games also weren't afraid to look like games back then. Nowadays if characters mouths don't sync up with the text the game gets a negative review.
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Originally Posted By BearyManilowe⏩
Games also weren't afraid to look like games back then. Nowadays if characters mouths don't sync up with the text the game gets a negative review.
Have you played Hifi rush yet? Sooooo good
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Originally Posted By ScramFranklin⏩
Have you played Hifi rush yet? Sooooo good
It's next up on my list, putting that between Tactics Ogre and Hogwarts. Looks like a blast
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I'd have to vote in Final Fantasy X and X-2, with the former being released in 2001, I think it had fantastic graphics for a game that age, even without the HD releases etc.

A bit blurry if anything but the general graphics and art was good.
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Games also weren't afraid to look like games back then. Nowadays if characters mouths don't sync up with the text the game gets a negative review.
Good point. While most new games nowadays have "Great" graphics, the artwork itself is just ****ing 'meh'
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OP you posted stuff that is emulated on PC, as much as I loved playing all of the Gran Turismo games back in the day I'll bet you any money it doesn't look like that originally.
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Yeah it's like all the growth leading up to the PS2 generation was incredible, then it's been relatively minor improvements since. We will never see anything like the excitement of the 90's gaming era when generational advancement seemed so massive. I remember how back then it seemed like every generation brought about a revolution in the way video games looked. Now a days I can easily go back to playing Xbox 360 games, and all they need is FPS enhancement for me to think they're just as good looking as X1/PS4 games, if not sometimes better looking. Heck I would argue the biggest advancement the SeX/PS5 generation has brought about is the improved performance.
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Anything from the Sega era looks so good, the artstyle for those games are timeless imo.

PS1 / Nintendo 64 games on the other hand aged very badly, I mean sure there are some games that look great, but most of them just have those blocky pixels.
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Originally Posted By BearyManilowe⏩
Games also weren't afraid to look like games back then. Nowadays if characters mouths don't sync up with the text the game gets a negative review.
Yeah, the studios and companies had their own in-house game engines for each of their games. Japanese devs usually didn't save code so had to create games from scratch almost every time. Rareware had some wild stories about how they made their games back in the day.

Originally Posted By KilaByte⏩
OP you posted stuff that is emulated on PC, as much as I loved playing all of the Gran Turismo games back in the day I'll bet you any money it doesn't look like that originally.
Perhaps I didn't make it clear in the original post: The games didn't look so good back in the day, because they didn't have the technology to properly show reflections, render correct shadows and monitors didn't allow higher than 1024x768 resolution. It wasn't that games themselves didn't look good and that's where emulators come in to show "what could have been".
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Yeah it's like all the growth leading up to the PS2 generation was incredible, then it's been relatively minor improvements since. We will never see anything like the excitement of the 90's gaming era when generational advancement seemed so massive. I remember how back then it seemed like every generation brought about a revolution in the way video games looked. Now a days I can easily go back to playing Xbox 360 games, and all they need is FPS enhancement for me to think they're just as good looking as X1/PS4 games, if not sometimes better looking. Heck I would argue the biggest advancement the SeX/PS5 generation has brought about is the improved performance.
The last console I owned was the PS3. I might buy a Switch someday, but I haven't really been excited about a console since the mid-2000s, lol. I'd argue that the PS2/Xbox/Gamecube era was the last great era of gaming.
Originally Posted By bongowongo⏩
Anything from the Sega era looks so good, the artstyle for those games are timeless imo.

PS1 / Nintendo 64 games on the other hand aged very badly, I mean sure there are some games that look great, but most of them just have those blocky pixels.
Dude, the Dreamcast probably has the most impressive video game variety of any console despite its short lifespan. Every game is unique and feels different from each other. Almost every single game that I played on it was a banger, except perhaps The Ring: Terror's Realm, lol. But if that's the worst of the Dreamcast, then that is sad for modern consoles.
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Originally Posted By Xinroth⏩
I'd have to vote in Final Fantasy X and X-2, with the former being released in 2001, I think it had fantastic graphics for a game that age, even without the HD releases etc.

A bit blurry if anything but the general graphics and art was good.



Good point. While most new games nowadays have "Great" graphics, the artwork itself is just ****ing 'meh'
Graphics wise, FFX was ridiculously good for a 2001 game. It put many titles to shame that year. What impressed me most were the FMVs. Japanese games had great cutscene graphics compared to what western devs made at the time.

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Law of diminishing returns.

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Loved Hotline Miami, binding of Isaac, and Nobody Saves The World. New games with classic graphics focused on challenging difficulty and gameplay.

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Game mechanics haven't had a big leap in 20 years. So yes, if you updated the graphics of most old games, they would be great.
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Originally Posted By ****inator⏩
Law of diminishing returns.

The triangles are just 1% of the equation in rasterization


The truth is since the vast majority of games are made for consoles post 2012 we get giga-cucked due to them sharing volatile memory while PC CPU's have their own dedicated in very large amounts

That results in a lot of games being released today with poverty environmental textures/shaders often 720p or less; luckily when they get converted for PC we get true 4K packs to apply



Old games have their own charm, art direction/shadowing/color grading are probably the most important features, evident by how the most popular games played today look like something from a Gameboy

Back then ugly visuals were hidden by your CRT TV's 480p resolution anyway
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the games still look good, you just got to play them on their proper resolutions.. aka the TV tech at the time..

don't play a 360p game on your 4k tv then complain that it looks like chit.


play that on a CRT TV and you have a beautiful game just like when you were 7 years old.


if not, then use those emulators that can upscale textures and such.
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Originally Posted By ScramFranklin⏩
Have you played Hifi rush yet? Sooooo good
Hnnng, it looks fun. Love games that involve music.
Originally Posted By ****inator⏩
Law of diminishing returns.

How can triangles be real if our eyes aren't? I blame our poor eyesight for this travesty.
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Loved Hotline Miami, binding of Isaac, and Nobody Saves The World. New games with classic graphics focused on challenging difficulty and gameplay.

I’m about to remove Live A Live with 3 more stories to go. Because I want to try Tactics Orge Reborn thanks to this thread, to see if it looks that much different than the OGs.
I played and enjoyed Live a Live with an emulator back in the mid 2000s. Can't believe most of the west hasn't heard about it until recently. Truly a unique experience of that time.
Originally Posted By TaeBoNinja⏩
Game mechanics haven't had a big leap in 20 years. So yes, if you updated the graphics of most old games, they would be great.
Sure, if we are talking about Remastered editions. Even through emulation that mainly raises the display resolution and removes the need for AA, we can still see the potential.
Originally Posted By blissful88⏩
The triangles are just 1% of the equation in rasterization


The truth is since the vast majority of games are made for consoles post 2012we get giga-cucked due to them sharing volatile memory while PC CPU's have their own dedicated in very large amounts

That results in a lot of games being released today with poverty environmental textures/shaders often 720p or less; luckily when they get converted for PC we get true 4K packs to apply



Old games have their own charm, art direction/shadowing/color grading are probably the most important features, evident by how the most popular games played today look like something from a Gameboy

Back then ugly visuals were hidden by your CRT TV's 480p resolution anyway
Console peasants always impeding our PC master race progress. This video talks more about those "ugly visuals", lol.
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the games still look good, you just got to play them on their proper resolutions.. aka the TV tech at the time..

don't play a 360p game on your 4k tv then complain that it looks like chit.


play that on a CRT TV and you have a beautiful game just like when you were 7 years old.


if not, then use those emulators that can upscale textures and such.
In my opinion, that's more true for mid-90s and earlier games. Remember when Duke Nukem 3D came out? The graphics were like a mix of 2D sprites on 3D backgrounds, then later a number of video games had 3D character models with static backgrounds. Nothing really beats console emulation in 4k. You could also download texture packs, apply various shaders and even enable RTX, if the emulator supports DirectX 12.

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Originally Posted By ScramFranklin⏩
Depends on the game imo. More stylized games age a lot better than games going for “realism”.

Okami and Zelda: Windwaker are timeless for example. Okami in hd:

Really? I think that looks like sh!t and the games in OP look much better. Looks cheap and gimmicky to me, and Wind Waker looked so childish it really lost the vibe of Ocarina and Majora.

Also think the Borderlands games look like sh!t, too. Just really hate that style, looks cheap for some reason. The South Park games have a much better cartoon aesthetic than celshaded sh!t.
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Super Mario RPG had some pretty badass graphics for a snes game
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I dunno I tried that half-life reskin and it was boring as fuk. Even if the gfx are passable game design was way more limited back then. Waste of $3.
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Originally Posted By Kev1972⏩
Even if the gfx are passable game design was way more limited back then.
I prefer the oldtimely game design over modern games tbh

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That's because you're watching vids of games that have been artificially buffed way more than their original versions. Play them on the original hardware on a period correct TV and report back.
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Originally Posted By OneLegSquats⏩
That's because you're watching vids of games that have been artificially buffed way more than their original versions. Play them on the original hardware on a period correct TV and report back.
He already addressed this, see post #12.
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Old games were built with that technology in mind

One question. Is playing nes or classics on emulators fully legal? Does Nintendo have any objections I don’t know at all I never did emulation.
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Originally Posted By CrimsonSteel⏩
Really? I think that looks like sh!t and the games in OP look much better. Looks cheap and gimmicky to me, and Wind Waker looked so childish it really lost the vibe of Ocarina and Majora.

Also think the Borderlands games look like sh!t, too. Just really hate that style, looks cheap for some reason. The South Park games have a much better cartoon aesthetic than celshaded sh!t.
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