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post 1680208873 04-05-2023, 07:26 AM
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With mail in voting, Republicans will never win a close election again

This is the one Covid instituted policy remaining that it seems like they will not relinquish because they know how powerful it is.

After Chicago voting in progressive Brandon Johnson last night after moderate Paul Vallas had been up in the polls, as well as the 2022 midterms being extremely underwhelming for republicans, not to mention 2020, it’s pretty clear that the main theme is mail in voting. Lazy people that previously weren’t educated enough in politics to feel motivated to make their way out to the polls are now voting because it’s easy and they get reminded every day by new ballots showing up in their mail, and these people are mostly voting democrat.

The two party system is gone. No one seems to want to talk about it. Also, no republican, even if elected, will be able to get away with removing mail in voting. It’s too engrained in the system now, and anyone who makes it part of their platform to remove it will be called racist and someone who doesn’t believe in letting everyone have the chance to vote.
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2 party system was always designed to be easily controlled/manipulated.


What a lot of you guys bitching about the election results seem to be missing, is that THIS IS THE WILL OF THE PEOPLE.

the people might be idiots and voting against their own best interests (not that Republicans and their wealthy bootlicking is much better) but these are legit results. Claiming election fraud in every election that doesn't go your way isn't helping the cause.
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Isn't the military primarily republican? A large majority of them use mail in voting. A lot of seniors vote red and use mail in voting. Maybe the right should find out why people aren't voting for them instead of trying g to limit the ability of the country to vote. We haven't had a real republican since Bush Sr....
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There's only one demographic that votes majority (R); White people.

Black people vote 90% (D)
Asian people vote 67% (D)
Hispanic people vote 60% (D)

White people are now 60% of the population down from 92%. You cannot overcome this voting discrepancy.

It was over in 1965; it just took about 50 years for it to come to fruition.

Mail in voting was unnecessary for (D) to pass. All they had to do was wait a few more years and become perpetual winners across the board.
post 1680210903 04-05-2023, 08:05 AM
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"Mail in ballots" is simply cheating. They throw away the envelope, and then there's no way to know where the ballot came from. They could be just printing fake ballots by the thousands for all we know (probably are)

Brb trump is about to win
Brb stop counting for no reason
Brb hey bomquisha go print out some more ballots
Brb biden took the lead
Brb biden wins 51-49
post 1680211133 04-05-2023, 08:09 AM
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Originally Posted By fballer12
This is the one Covid instituted policy remaining that it seems like they will not relinquish because they know how powerful it is.

After Chicago voting in progressive Brandon Johnson last night after moderate Paul Vallas had been up in the polls, as well as the 2022 midterms being extremely underwhelming for republicans, not to mention 2020, it’s pretty clear that the main theme is mail in voting. Lazy people that previously weren’t educated enough in politics to feel motivated to make their way out to the polls are now voting because it’s easy and they get reminded every day by new ballots showing up in their mail, and these people are mostly voting democrat.

The two party system is gone. No one seems to want to talk about it. Also, no republican, even if elected, will be able to get away with removing mail in voting. It’s too engrained in the system now, and anyone who makes it part of their platform to remove it will be called racist and someone who doesn’t believe in letting everyone have the chance to vote.
This all covered in game theory. Look up the beach umbrella game (or technically Hotelling’s Model of Spatial Competition). It says that if there are two beach umbrella rentals on a beach, their equilibrium position will be right next to each other right in the center of the beach. The same thing applies to the current US 2-party model of politics. The two parties will be aligned right in the political center of the electorate right next to each other. If there is a disequilibrium due to a shifting electorate, the parties will realign near the new "center". That means, if the electorate is shifting left, the GOP will have to shift left with it (or be replaced by a different "right" party) in order to recapture more of the electorate. There will always be two parties that nearly split every election. What will change is the stances those parties take.
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They will if they embrace mail in voting and beat the Dems at their own game.

Also, Vallas would’ve 100% won the election if conservative and centrist voters hadn’t fled Chicago en masse post-pandemic. Over 50k people moved out of Chicago in 2020-2021 alone (so probably 200k+ by now) yet Vallas only lost the election by 15k votes.
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It wouldn't be as bad if there was a hard deadline. None of this two weeks late ****. Personally, I don't understand why people can't securely vote online yet. Voting machines work on the internet......
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Originally Posted By mattb717
It wouldn't be as bad if there was a hard deadline. None of this two weeks late ****.Personally, I don't understand why people can't securely vote online yet.Voting machines work on the internet......
Lmao you understand nothing about fair elections then. The only way fair elections can be run is with same day in person (with ID, goes without saying really) voting and in person counting having the majority of the votes counted the same night.
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Originally Posted By GuineaDago585
They will if they embrace mail in voting and beat the Dems at their own game.

Also, Vallas would’ve 100% won the election if conservative and centrist voters hadn’t fled Chicago en masse post-pandemic. Over 50k people moved out of Chicago in 2020-2021 alone (so probably 200k+ by now) yet Vallas only lost the election by 15k votes.
Good for them they can live in their own violent ****hole. I hope cities all just become massive piles of trash
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Oh wow a other close race that just squeaked out a dem win in the end happens often nowadays
post 1680212723 04-05-2023, 08:39 AM
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Originally Posted By bchap05
Good for them they can live in their own violent ****hole. I hope cities all just become massive piles of trash
No, not good. Why do you want innocent hard working people to suffer and for our financial centers to decay into lawless welfare centers?

American cities need to be saved.

I understand the sentiment when the people who voted for this are often too stupid to realize they signed Chicago’s death warrant (or just have bad intentions), but 48% of voters went the opposite way and tried to save their city. Millions of citizens never asked for this chit.
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Do soldiers who mail in their votes when they are abroad, always vote D?
There is an unspoken thing, we are iron brothers and sisters, we are to support each other and...It is our duty to support our brothers and sisters in the iron game!
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Originally Posted By GuineaDago585
No, not good. Why do you want innocent hard working people to suffer and for our financial centers to decay into lawless welfare centers?

American cities need to be saved.

I understand the sentiment when the people who voted for this are often too stupid to realize they signed Chicago’s death warrant (or just have bad intentions), but 48% of voters went the opposite way and tried to save their city. Millions of citizens never asked for this chit.
Because I don't live in one. I hate cities. They should have been smarter and voted for a POS if they don't want that for themselves
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Originally Posted By rollerball
Lol fukkin retard asians and latins voting for the party that worships AAs and endorses AA violence against them.
The only thing more mind blowing is whites who vote for anti white candidates. Such a cuck thing. I can't fathom not wanting the best for yourself. It would be like the ****ing Indians voting for white man to take their land. White libs are such ****ing pussy POS.
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Originally Posted By x-trainer
Do soldiers who mail in their votes when they are abroad, always vote D?
No, but that’s how it’s recorded; even those killed in action.
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What I loved about this election is...white lib challengers are being called white supremacist/racist by black communists they are running against.

Love that for them.
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Originally Posted By Barteh
Lmao you understand nothing about fair elections then. The only way fair elections can be run is with same day in person (with ID, goes without saying really) voting and in person counting having the majority of the votes counted the same night.
I'm not sure if you know this, but it's 2023. Not 1942. I'd love for elections to take place in one day, as it should. But, things are different now. In person isn't always an option now. Sure, the system needs work, but people can't always leave work to go vote. Maybe they should be looking for solutions, not constantly trying to regress us.
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Well look at California. Newsome won his recall simply because of mail-in voting and all the tactics CA dems used to eliminate enough votes against him and farm enough for him to keep him in office. Same thing they did to keep the LA DA in power. We're at the point where the only way to vote democrats out is to have overwhelming support for someone else, because they have everything so rigged in favor of big establishment democrats.
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Originally Posted By Postmort3m
No, but that’s how it’s recorded; even those killed in action.
Dam, i always thought that soldiers were able to vote freely and fairly for R's?
At least that is how it has been portrayed here in the states for years.
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Originally Posted By bchap05
The only thing more mind blowing is whites who vote for anti white candidates. Such a cuck thing. I can't fathom not wanting the best for yourself. It would be like the ****ing Indians voting for white man to take their land. White libs are such ****ing pussy POS.
These idiots voting for an openly anti white candidate:

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Originally Posted By mattb717
I'm not sure if you know this, but it's 2023. Not 1942. I'd love for elections to take place in one day, as it should. But, things are different now. In person isn't always an option now. Sure, the system needs work, but people can't always leave work to go vote.Maybe they should be looking for solutions, not constantly trying to regress us.
Legally give all citizens in the country the right to have a day off on election day, or at least half a day. Hell just make it a national holiday. Boom, problem solved. It's not that complicated.
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Originally Posted By RIKTER
What I loved about this election is...white lib challengers are being called white supremacist/racist by black communists they are running against.

Love that for them.
This. And of course white cucks are going to take it.

No republican white candidate is ever going to be able to run again without an onslaught of propaganda about how they’re terrible racist bigots. Even moderate democrats are now being called “maga” white supremacists
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Their issue is not the mail in votes, its that they are having close call elections.

If they ran candidates that had an overwhelming chance to win, it would rarely be a concern.

They usually wheel out someone with barely a chance and then pray they get elected. Thats stupid.
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Originally Posted By crupiea
Their issue is not the mail in votes, its that they are having close call elections.

If they ran candidates that had an overwhelming chance to win, it would rarely be a concern.

They usually wheel out someone with barely a chance and then pray they get elected. Thats stupid.
In the Chicago example, it was a moderate democrat, and he was the significantly better candidate. Without mail-in, he likely would have won.

With better candidates, would certain races have an even bigger margin of victory(Ron desantis in Florida)? Sure. But that’s not the point. The point is the close races that in the past may have occasionally swung the republicans way. That extra 2-3% from mail ins will be the difference between flipping important close mayoral/governor elections, having majorities in the house and senate, and future presidents. Compounded over years, this could mean huge issues for the country, especially at this very important stage in our country when things are going off the rails really quickly.

The waning white demographics was already a tough hill to overcome. Mail in voting is a knockout punch.
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