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post 1680660763 04-12-2023, 10:29 AM
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Fuk a Dealership!.......Just Horrible

Went to look at a 2017 truck yesterday, just to see......salesman tossed me the keys and I gave him mine so they could assess it for potential trade in.

Ill try to keep it short and extrapolate if necessary.

-Low balled the chit out of me on my trade. expected that.
-1st quote was at 21% interest....2nd was at 18% and that's the lowest they'd go
-Didn't even bother pulling my credit, told me "We need to get you to agree to a payment you're comfortable with 1st"
-The whole time they were trying to make me talk about the payment completely ignoring the IR
-Literally kept saying, it's not the payment.....it's the $12k in interest.
-Kept changing the terms around to make the payment smaller but at the same IR
-Tried to completely change the scene and started pushing me to look at several 2023's.

-Was only looking at financing $19k (after my trade AND putting $5k down).....so at one point I said, Ill just pay the $19k cash and I was quickly told that that was NOT the cash price. If I wanted to pay cash today it was going to be 26K, which could not be explained why....I know why, but the manager couldn't explain it to me.

After about an hour, basically noped and walked out. As I was walking away they offered to throw $2k more onto my trade and pull my credit to see if they could get me the lowest rate they have which would have been around 7%......turned around and said "you should have done that 30 minutes ago" and walked out.

They've called me 3x and sent 2 emails since 4pm yesterday.

Just an overall chit experience with people who were constantly trying to swindle, pressure and belittle me.
post 1680661243 04-12-2023, 10:35 AM
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yep. they make $$$ off financing.

they hate cash. So always get finale price b4 telling them cash. If they balk, then bail. call anoither dealer and see if they can beat their price.

Be alpha. They love taking advantage of dumb people who have no clue what's going on and easy to scam with "fees" upon "fees".

google what fees you need to pay in your state. Chalenge every "fee".
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post 1680661373 04-12-2023, 10:36 AM
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Just lol at buying a car in USA
post 1680661523 04-12-2023, 10:38 AM
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post 1680661773 04-12-2023, 10:41 AM
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Dealer model has to go.. if tesla got one thing right its the way they do car buying
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post 1680661883 04-12-2023, 10:42 AM
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I actually just had a good experience with a Dealership, but the previous 2-3 were terrible.
post 1680662043 04-12-2023, 10:44 AM
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If they keep talking about monthly payment and disregarding the price before financing, walk away. Those are trash dealerships. Didn't even try to pull your credit early on = trash. There are decent ones out there too where they give you the price and are happy to take the pre-approved loan amount from your bank or credit union.
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post 1680662343 04-12-2023, 10:48 AM
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Get a trade in estimate from carmax or carvana and secure your own financing from a bank BEFORE you go to a dealer?

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post 1680662423 04-12-2023, 10:50 AM
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You should be able to get an option contract and finance it at your bank. usually you'll get like a week. You can see what rate you'll get at the bank beforehand.

If trade in, always have the car assessed at a place like Carmax first. Many times Carmax will offer more than the dealer, and you can use that as leverage.
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Car salesmen are literally the lowest of the low scum bags on earth and there is a special hell underneath hades for them all.
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You should respond to their email calling them out (in a nice-sounding way) for trying to take advantage of you and screw you over instead of actually trying to help you out as the customer. So they can realize how destructive and dishonest their behavior is.

Dealerships can be the worst. Those interest rates are ridiculous.
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Why is everything involving cars so scummy? The dealerships, mechanics etc
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one thing ive learned after a few trade-in's is to always state the number youre looking for first - before they throw out a number and if need be go a little high.

people may say "never be the first to make an offer" but this doesnt apply to trade ins because you know theyre going to lowball out of the gate.

when i was looking to trade in my F150, i chit you not, one dealer would say $18k,. another $24k, and then another said $26k. but when i started saying i need payoff of $xyz then i started getting offers way closer to what i wanted, probably because they knew the deal was a no-go unless they met or came close to my number.

on the truck i just got, my first offer was at 14.4% interest but i declined and they called back a week later with 11%. still absolute chit rate but i had a certified lemon from ford that i guarantee was gonna take a chit sometime soon. almost everything on the truck had went bad at some point ded fkn srs, even driver's seatbelt twice & IWBs were currently bad, and it was an XLT. now i got a Lariat.
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post 1680663113 04-12-2023, 10:59 AM
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Yeah

Local dealer wanted 10k over msrp when I was buying.

Same truck for msrp 200miles away. I called that dealer said โ€œI want to buy the truck you have for the price,lโ€ drove my old car down and they gave me 500 more than other dealer said trade in was worth and honored their ad for the price so handed them cashiers check and bounced
post 1680663353 04-12-2023, 11:03 AM
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Originally Posted By Kev1972⏩
Get a trade in estimate from carmax or carvana and secure your own financing from a bank BEFORE you go to a dealer?

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Believe it or not, a lot of dealers won't accept outside financing. And a lot will give you a higher quote if you say you are paying cash. It's the exact opposite as what it used to be.
I've had good luck with dealerships that do the no-hassle web sales. Sell your car outright - don't trade in. Get your own financing, unless one of the major manufacturers are offering zero or low rates on new through their finance arm.
Find the car you like at a competitive price, make an appointment for a test drive and make sure to waive all add-ons. (extended warranties, dealer upgrades, etc)
It's not a great time to be buying because car prices are over inflated, but there are some decent dealers and deals out there if you do your research. I'd stay away from the big chains and mega dealerships.
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post 1680663493 04-12-2023, 11:06 AM
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Originally Posted By havoc00⏩
Why is everything involving cars so scummy? The dealerships, mechanics etc
Any emotional sell is brimming with snakes.

Look at the wedding industry, it's a full on scam.

Cars are no different. People smell the new interior, feel the smooth handling, then have the finance guy say, "It's all yours for $300/month!".... without mentioning that you have to pay that for the next 24 years for a car that is worth $17k.
post 1680663603 04-12-2023, 11:07 AM
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Always get the "out the door" price. You know exactly how much you are going to pay then they can creatively account the breakdown to what makes them the best commission. If you can't pay cash then you know how much of a loan to ask for from your bank/credit union. Don't use their finance department if you can help it.
post 1680663773 04-12-2023, 11:11 AM
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Just lol at all that chit.

Bought my last car private party, hassle free experience. Drove car, liked car, went to bank with owner and withdrew cash, paid and owner signed over title, went to dol and transferred title and registered.

QED
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I've owned 10 or so cars in my life and only bought one from a dealership. I had USAA give me a blank check when I found the car I wanted then went in and negotiated a price then pulled out the check. I'm sure they weren't too happy but I wasn't going to listen to their BS about financing. NOTHXJEFF. With that said, I'll probably never do it again since it's much smoother to buy from a private seller and you can talk them down much more than a stealership
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Are american vehicles financed at 20% wtf

I was looking at porsches for 6.99% yesterday
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Originally Posted By headturner1⏩
Just lol at all that chit.

Bought my last car private party, hassle free experience. Drove car, liked car, went to bank with owner and withdrew cash, paid and owner signed over title, went to dol and transferred title and registered.

QED
THIS^ Is kind of where I'm at now in the world. That includes new phones, too. I'll just go to walmart, pay $150, move my simcard to it, and be done.

If you try to go the at&t store they ONLY allow financing.... for a fukin phone. It's ridiculous.

I think people have access to information nowadays... but people are still falling for this chit.
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Originally Posted By Smithers115⏩
Are american vehicles financed at 20% wtf

I was looking at porsches for 6.99% aka enough that investments would pay the car off
Not to mention, 911's appreciate lmao
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Originally Posted By HMFIC_BROWSIN⏩
Not to mention, 911's appreciate lmao
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6 grand a month for gt3 rs and the **** will stay at 300k on the used market if i dont daily drive the thing
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Originally Posted By Smithers115⏩
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6 grand a month for gt3 rs and the **** will stay at 300k on the used market if i dont daily drive the thing
Some guy wrote a literal book about how the 911 cost of ownership is basically zero if you never crash the thing.
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Damn that sucks, I don't think I'll ever go to a dealer again, they either come to me or I'm buying privately

Got my last car during the lock downs so dealer drove the car to my place, I test drove it and then bought the car on my front porch

Price was negotiated through the phone before they drove it over, it was about a week of back and forth calling till I got them to bring price down a bit
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Originally Posted By HMFIC_BROWSIN⏩
THIS^ Is kind of where I'm at now in the world. That includes new phones, too. I'll just go to walmart, pay $150, move my simcard to it, and be done.

If you try to go the at&t store they ONLY allow financing.... for a fukin phone. It's ridiculous.

I think people have access to information nowadays... but people are still falling for this chit.
I fuking hate car dealerships. I always feel like Iโ€™ve been fuked over, well in the past buying cars there. I explicitly look private party now, which is tough imo. Well tough, if itโ€™s a decent/more expensive vehicle.. most people are lazy and just trade in and get ass raped.
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Originally Posted By havoc00⏩
Why is everything involving cars so scummy? The dealerships, mechanics etc
Some are okay. Got my wife a vehicle last year. They would have been fine with all cash. They offered crappy financing at first and I pretended we were leaving a couple times, so they offered better financing and lowered the price. Thousands saved, took less than an hour to get terms we wanted.
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Originally Posted By headturner1⏩
I fuking hate car dealerships. I always feel like Iโ€™ve been fuked over, well in the past buying cars there. I explicitly look private party now, which is tough imo. Well tough, if itโ€™s a decent/more expensive vehicle.. most people are lazy and just trade in and get ass raped.
Yeah the private market is a mine field, but after you get smart to identifying scams (shifty emails, not answering questions, chitty carfax reports) it is smooth. Helped my GF get a car off there and I'd say 4 out of 5 cars listed on craigslist were some kind of dishonest scam. We asked one guy for the VIN and he simply replied "no" LMFAO. Like wtf....

I once had a guy give me the wrong VIN because he didn't want me to look it up.
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Dealerships 9 times out of 10 sketchy, especially the used racquet.

Going to buy a new truck with cash later this month. Debating on letting them run their dog and pony show before telling them I'm str8 cash homie or to walk in and tell them I'll take it at the sticker price, no extra add on warranty BS, just get me the papers to sign and I'll give them the check.
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