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post 1681563603 04-26-2023, 04:48 PM
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Being lean>being big, change my mind

Better to look good and weigh less than 200lbs than to bloat up and compromise your health and aesthetics all for the sole purpose of lifting heavy/intimidating other men

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post 1681563653 04-26-2023, 04:49 PM
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absolutely
post 1681563693 04-26-2023, 04:50 PM
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Originally Posted By GaryRidgway⏩
absolutely
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post 1681563833 04-26-2023, 04:52 PM
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Why not both
post 1681563883 04-26-2023, 04:52 PM
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youll always be a twink if youre sub 200lbs though
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post 1681563923 04-26-2023, 04:55 PM
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Grass is always greener .
Bloatlords are forever cutting.
Twinks are forever bulking.
Because people always want what they can't have.
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post 1681563943 04-26-2023, 04:55 PM
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If you can't see your abs, you're fat. (Ded fkn Srs)
post 1681563993 04-26-2023, 04:56 PM
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BLOAT or die can eat more, drink, dominate twinks throw people around, have people move for you etc..


post 1681564093 04-26-2023, 04:58 PM
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What if i drop below 200lbs to say 170lbs and get a nice girl & take her on holiday & then some big fcker walks up & kicks sand in my face at the beach?
post 1681564123 04-26-2023, 04:59 PM
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Be both what is this bs. Just lol if you dont look big lean
post 1681564163 04-26-2023, 04:59 PM
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Yeah. I kind of regret spending so many years getting caught up in "bulking" and "being big". Now I'm trying to go full circle and get back to being more lean like I was pre lifting (no clue how many lbs of muscle I've put on after all these years of lifting). To really get "ripped" like I want to, I'll likely have to get down to 170 or even lower. Also, weighing less is obviously better for overall health and longevity.
post 1681564203 04-26-2023, 04:59 PM
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Always looked the best after a long cut is over and about 2 weeks into a bulk. Right when you start to fill out again.
post 1681564223 04-26-2023, 05:01 PM
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Originally Posted By nineOHnine⏩
Grass is always greener .
Bloatlords are forever cutting.
Twinks are forever bulking.
Because people always want what they can't have.
tru wisdom
I'm back, bitches!
post 1681564253 04-26-2023, 05:02 PM
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Originally Posted By gmenfan40⏩
If you can't see your abs, you're fat. (Ded fkn Srs)
Like, squeeze out a blurry 4 pack or......
I'm back, bitches!
post 1681564283 04-26-2023, 05:03 PM
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when i was at my leanest it was easymode to slay

sloots always smiled when walking past

got hjs within 5 mins on a date

banged 4 sloots in 4 days

lean > bloatlord

srs
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post 1681564313 04-26-2023, 05:03 PM
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I don't think anyone will disagree.

I just started a serious cut last week, and am down like 8 pounds already. Mostly water weight, but my face and body already look less bloated.

The difference in female attention in just 1 week is kinda crazy. Girls in the gym went from moving away from me to trying to get closer to me. I also haven't orgasmed in a week(decreased horniness because of the cut as well) so the girls probably are picking up on the test gains.
post 1681564373 04-26-2023, 05:04 PM
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Originally Posted By sennas⏩
Always looked the best after a long cut is over and about 2 weeks into a bulk. Right when you start to fill out again.
Based
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post 1681564403 04-26-2023, 05:05 PM
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Remember in 2005 when bodybuilders did bulking and cutting when necessary?
Well that is how some gained size during the winter and then during show times they striped it all off.
Now if you look at them they keep a bulky/lean look so don't stress, both are fine.
Just don't get sloppy!
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post 1681564513 04-26-2023, 05:06 PM
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I’d rather be big.

Manmore problems pretty much
post 1681564523 04-26-2023, 05:06 PM
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Originally Posted By nineOHnine⏩
Grass is always greener .
Bloatlords are forever cutting.
Twinks are forever bulking.
Because people always want what they can't have.
Fuark hits home

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post 1681564543 04-26-2023, 05:06 PM
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It depends, if you're not absolutely jacked most people look skinny in a t-shirt when your ripped. Most of the year it's fine to be a bit bigger and have a higher body fat and then just cut for summer months
post 1681564793 04-26-2023, 05:10 PM
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Sometimes when you're very lean you have to wear a girl's medium to look buff, where ass if you're bulbous and chubby you can rock an extra large and still show of your bobs and guns and not look like a try hard, at least until you take your shirt off and have to suck in your gut.

Either way you're going to be coping unless on gear or have God tier genes.
post 1681564873 04-26-2023, 05:12 PM
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Originally Posted By Mark604⏩
It depends, if you're not absolutely jacked most people look skinny in a t-shirt when your ripped. Most of the year it's fine to be a bit bigger and have a higher body fat and then just cut for summer months
BLOATing is a full time business. I'm gunning for 700lbs pure mass and i'll cut in the afterlife & get all the sloots.
post 1681564913 04-26-2023, 05:13 PM
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Originally Posted By Mark604⏩
It depends,if you're not absolutely jacked most people look skinny in a t-shirt when your ripped. Most of the year it's fine to be a bit bigger and have a higher body fat and then just cut for summer months
I don't know man, before I ever got into lifting and was usually like 160-165 lbs I got numerous comments on my physique (it was athletic and slightly above average muscle mass) - including people even joking about "steroids". This was pre social media/fitness influencers, and at that size it was easier to get better "fitted" clothes - so both of those probably played a part I suppose but...I'm not sure the bar is really THAT high. We have skewed perceptions here.
post 1681565033 04-26-2023, 05:14 PM
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i got way more attention from women before i started lifting

but now that i think of it, its just because i went bald
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post 1681565173 04-26-2023, 05:18 PM
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Originally Posted By Polaris⏩
I don't know man, before I ever got into lifting and was usually like 160-165 lbs I got numerous comments on my physique (it was athletic and slightly above average muscle mass) - including people even joking about "steroids". This was pre social media/fitness influencers, and at that size it was easier to get better "fitted" clothes - so both of those probably played a part I suppose but...I'm not sure the bar is really THAT high. We have skewed perceptions here.
You may be right, I'm just going by my experience of being 6'2" and I look anorexic below 180lbs but plenty of shorter guys look jacked at 155lbs
post 1681565253 04-26-2023, 05:18 PM
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i think it's best to just stay at a weight where you can be lean and somewhat maintain it for long time...for an average natty guy that's probably 160-185. to hell with force feeding myself to chase gains...plus the extra money spent on food, wear on joints, loss of speed, etc.
post 1681565603 04-26-2023, 05:24 PM
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Originally Posted By GooBaaa⏩
Why not both
It's the plight of a natty, gotta choose between size and leanness.
Originally Posted By DrugsToGetBig⏩
youll always be a twink if youre sub 200lbs though
That's the body dysmorphophobia speaking brah. 185 lean at 6'0 looks pretty damn impressive .
Originally Posted By Channel83⏩
What if i drop below 200lbs to say 170lbs and get a nice girl & take her on holiday & then some big fcker walks up & kicks sand in my face at the beach?
Time to learn how to box boyo
Originally Posted By paramparam⏩
Be both what is this bs. Just lol if you dont look big lean
See reply to goobaaa
Originally Posted By Polaris⏩
Yeah. I kind of regret spending so many years getting caught up in "bulking" and "being big". Now I'm trying to go full circle and get back to being more lean like I was pre lifting (no clue how many lbs of muscle I've put on after all these years of lifting). To really get "ripped" like I want to, I'll likely have to get down to 170 or even lower. Also, weighing less is obviously better for overall health and longevity.
Dasitmane. Good luck with your cut brah.
Originally Posted By AWillis⏩
when i was at my leanest it was easymode to slay

sloots always smiled when walking past

got hjs within 5 mins on a date

banged 4 sloots in 4 days

lean > bloatlord

srs
Originally Posted By OliverHeldens⏩
I don't think anyone will disagree.

I just started a serious cut last week, and am down like 8 pounds already. Mostly water weight, but my face and body already look less bloated.

The difference in female attention in just 1 week is kinda crazy. Girls in the gym went from moving away from me to trying to get closer to me. I also haven't orgasmed in a week(decreased horniness because of the cut as well) so the girls probably are picking up on the test gains.
Being lean is a game changer in terms of getting sloots. Obvs people shouldn't prioritise their life around getting women but at the same time makes no sense to bloat if you're lifting to look good to others.
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Originally Posted By sennas⏩
Always looked the best after a long cut is over and about 2 weeks into a bulk. Right when you start to fill out again.
Originally Posted By dopamine72⏩
Based
Originally Posted By Mark604⏩
It depends, if you're not absolutely jacked most people look skinny in a t-shirt when your ripped. Most of the year it's fine to be a bit bigger and have a higher body fat and then just cut for summer months
Originally Posted By 401Delta⏩
Sometimes when you're very lean you have to wear a girl's medium to look buff, where ass if you're bulbous and chubby you can rock an extra large and still show of your bobs and guns and not look like a try hard, at least until you take your shirt off and have to suck in your gut.

Either way you're going to be coping unless on gear or have God tier genes.
Originally Posted By Mark604⏩
You may be right, I'm just going by my experience of being 6'2" and I look anorexic below 180lbs but plenty of shorter guys look jacked at 155lbs
Adding my thoughts:


The 12% area (real 12%, not "but but muh calipers and impedance results!!!) is where 80% ofnattieslook their best under the largest array of circumstances and to the largest portion of the general population.

Only BBers and wannabe BBers prefer leaner than that, and their perception is so skewed itshould notbe applied to other circumstances. Because as impressive as it is for a nattie to reach a true, real 9% bf (and to be clear it actually is impressive), outside of the BBing world and niche fetish communities it doesnotactually look "attractive". Chicks don't want your arms to be the same size (small) and veininess (excessive) as your cawk. Dudes that aren't into lifting DGAF about how lean you are, and honestly dudes that aren't into liftingactually aremore impressed by size and strength (hence the comments like "bro do you play football!" "Holy cow I bet you carried your new fridge in by yourself lul") than by how lean you are.

Plus the nonlinear loss of size, muscle, and "fullness" (the filling out Sennas mentioned) when a nattie starts cutting below 11% means that it is nearly impossible to look builtin clothesas a natty sub-11%.


TLDR:

-No idea what OP is referring to when he says "better to look good" because he gives zero actual measurements (other than just arbitrarily saying "less than 200")
-Law of diminishing returns applies to everything, and the pursuit of being excessively lean (for a natty) hits a spot where you aren't actually getting anything out of it quicker than some people would think
-12% and as big as you can get is where it's at for 80% of natties
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