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post 1681842023 05-01-2023, 12:01 PM
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What's with snake oil salesmen claiming that cardio doesn't help weight loss srs?

For a while I actually believed the BS, but since incorporating more cardio routine I seem to be getting leaner than ever





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post 1681842203 05-01-2023, 12:04 PM
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Adding cardio ups VO2 max, so it helps you increase strength as well. Most lifters/bbers are just lazy
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Why is math so hard?

If cardio is a catalyst for you to be more disciplined with your intake/expenditure, then it works.

If it causes you to be less disciplined, then it doesn't.
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Why would anyone listen to Mike O Tren when it comes to anything???
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Originally Posted By ezmac31⏩
Adding cardio ups VO2 max, so it helps you increase strength as well. Most lifters/bbers are just lazy
Dasitz
Originally Posted By 401Delta⏩
Why is math so hard?

If cardio is a catalyst for you to be more disciplined with your intake/expenditure, then it works.

If it causes you to be less disciplined, then it doesn't.
My point is that cardio+ eating healthy makes it easier to lose weight than just reducing calorie intake alone.
Originally Posted By Dave22reborn⏩
Why would anyone listen to Mike O Tren when it comes to anything???
Some of the lifting advice he gives is good but the guy also talks a lot of absolute nonsense.
“Steroids is now just a word that the lazy and ignorant use to describe any guy that has more muscle and dedication than them”– Mike O'Hearn


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post 1681843633 05-01-2023, 12:31 PM
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why tf would you even press play?
post 1681845383 05-01-2023, 12:58 PM
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For awhile I had hired a personal trainer. And I knew that a friend of my parents had hired the same trainer I was now using. It makes me laugh a bit remembering about the time I came into the gym for a training session and my trainer came over to me all upset. He had trained my parents friend earlier in the morning and the friend was mad as can be making a scene at the gym complaining he was not losing weight with just exercise. Of course our trainer tried to cool him down, saying exercise can help but it is important to watch your diet also. I was asked to slip the family friend a diet book though in the end to help cool him down, which I did, running it over to the bank he worked at.
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The potential market of people who want to be in great shape but are too lazy to do cardio is HUGE. Why wouldn’t you target it if you wanted to make money.
post 1681845773 05-01-2023, 01:03 PM
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...Dont do cardio.....buy this product instead!
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post 1681845883 05-01-2023, 01:05 PM
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Didn’t watch, but sayings like that are intended to be taken as practical advice not technical truths. It’s geared toward the average person who will realistically never have the consistency, intensity, and eating habits to make burning calories a feasible long term strategy. It’s counterproductive because the effort just causes them to burn out and relapse after like a week.
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Originally Posted By Dave22reborn⏩
Why would anyone listen to Mike O Tren when it comes to anything???
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Diet is for weight loss or gain.

You can run a marathon at world record pace every day but if you are eating like a hog you wont see any weight loss.

Think about it.

1 mile of running is about 100 calories. So 5 miles a day would give you a 3500 calorie deficit a week.

For most people, thats quite a bit of running, You can get the same 3500 calorie deficit by simply tweaking your diet with no exercise at all.

Thats really the key to losing weight,. Adjust your diet so you lose weight without working out. Once thats dialed in, slowly add in workouts and adjust your calories up slightly to compensate.

You will hear it time and time again, people will do cardio like a slave, eat practically nothing and not lose weight. You need fuel to survive. Sure, you can go the p.o.w. route and starve but thats going to ruin any sort of muscle you have and not be healthy at all.

I am a huge cardio fan and it took me a long time to see the differences between weight loss and cardio. Once i realized I can lose without working out at all, I did that, now I do cardio for the health benefits of it.
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If you are in great cardiovascular shape, as in top 5% of population (which isn’t that hard), your chances of all cause deaths reduce for like 5x

The study I read may be a bit exaggerated, but even if it’s just a 2x less chance of death, that alone is worth it.

Implement it me day of hard cardio intervals for 30 minutes and that will be more than enough to improve your heart health immensely.


If you want to look good, that means you want to enjoy life. If you look good AND you are healthy, you will enjoy life for a long time.
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Originally Posted By crupiea⏩
Diet is for weight loss or gain.

You can run a marathon at world record pace every day but if you are eating like a hog you wont see any weight loss.

Think about it.

1 mile of running is about 100 calories. So 5 miles a day would give you a 3500 calorie deficit a week.

For most people, thats quite a bit of running, You can get the same 3500 calorie deficit by simply tweaking your diet with no exercise at all.

Thats really the key to losing weight,. Adjust your diet so you lose weight without working out. Once thats dialed in, slowly add in workouts and adjust your calories up slightly to compensate.

You will hear it time and time again, people will do cardio like a slave, eat practically nothing and not lose weight. You need fuel to survive. Sure, you can go the p.o.w. route and starve but thats going to ruin any sort of muscle you have and not be healthy at all.

I am a huge cardio fan and it took me a long time to see the differences between weight loss and cardio. Once i realized I can lose without working out at all, I did that, now I do cardio for the health benefits of it.
It's true you can't out train a bad diet. However, it's also true that once you hit a certain bodyfat percentage(12-14%) it's harder to continue losing weight without cardio. I feel better doing low intensity cardio Vs doing no cardio and compensating by keeping my cals extremely low to maintain the deficit.
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In terms of fat loss, cardio isn't even necessary. Just do a 3 5-day-fasts with a 1 day break in between, and you'd easily lose upwards to 20lbs in a month.

The only problem is that fasting is hard as f/ck....
Everything I post is satire.
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“Don’t do cardio” while doing cardio
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post 1681847703 05-01-2023, 01:36 PM
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I weightlift during diet.
I don’t really do cardio because it makes me want to eat more.

Keep diet simple, add in cardio if you can handle it.
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They just want to make money and prey on lazy people. Its as simple as that.
Everything I post is trash.
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Translation: avoid too much cardio while blasting tren or you may croak on the elliptical
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Some bodybuilders/fitness guys are so embarrassing

Imagine looking like an absolute unit but getting wrecked in any physical or athletic activity besides lifting things and putting them back down

Pathetic
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I read somewhere that cardio exercise helps with appetite regulation, probably a bigger factor than the calories burned
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Originally Posted By kingmanaverage⏩
Dasitz



My point is that cardio+ eating healthy makes it easier to lose weight than just reducing calorie intake alone.



Some of the lifting advice he gives is good but the guy also talks a lot of absolute nonsense.
What lifting advice does he give that's "good?"
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Originally Posted By TitusVI⏩
They just want to make money and prey on lazy people. Its as simple as that.
This. The fitness industry has more BS than just about anything. Feel bad for the people just getting into it and buying from these shady people. Gotta learn how to sort through the bs.
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Originally Posted By monster0ultra⏩
What people forget is that we only have a limited amount of recovery capacity.

Cardio has a ton of benefits but more cardio means less recovery for lifting.

By that same logic, not training legs and only training upper body is actually a valid strategy. If all you care about is attracting sloots, all the show muscles are in the upper body so why would you waste any recovery capacity on legs?
Don’t forget the glutes.
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Originally Posted By monster0ultra⏩
What people forget is that we only have a limited amount of recovery capacity.

Cardio has a ton of benefits but more cardio means less recovery for lifting.

By that same logic, not training legs and only training upper body is actually a valid strategy. If all you care about is attracting sloots, all the show muscles are in the upper body so why would you waste any recovery capacity on legs?
Low intensity cardio isn't going to hurt your recovery.

And if you're doing cardio for your heart, you're telling us that you can't do two 30 minute sessions a week? Maybe 3?
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Walking around the block isn’t cardio
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Imagine a world where exercising the most vital muscle in the human body is considered a "waste of time". What malarkey. (Super Ded fkn Srs)
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I've started becoming more of a cardiocel and have definitely noticed I look way better with a mix of lifting and cardio vs just lifting or just cardio. My main hack is doing incline walking for even 15-20 mins on lifting days. It's an easy, low impact way of burning 200+ calories in a short amount of time. I've been reading a lot about "Zone 2" cardio that's minimal effort and have noticed huge benefits in my physique and even my lifts. I feel like I can lift way more now that I'm not gassed all the time from any aerobic activity.
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Burning more calories than you eat = weightless. Also everybody that doesn't do any form of cardio is retarded srs.
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For the majority of people, when you compare a sandwich to the amount of cardio needed to burn the calories in the sandwich, it is easier to not eat the sandwich.

Then you have women who burn 200 calories on the treadmill and reward themselves with a 400 calorie muffin.

Cardio is important, but when looking at things purely from a weight loss perspective, getting the average person to worry about diet is far more productive than getting them to worry about cardio.
Screw nature; my body will do what I DAMN WELL tell it to do!

The only dangerous thing about an exercise is the person doing it.

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