Thread: What was the civil war about?
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What was the civil war about?
Did people really fight each other to free slaves? Knowing how people are today, I don't see them fighting for anything. I don't see the same passion.
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05-04-2023, 04:56 PM
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Originally Posted By Polaris⏩
It had to be something that pissed people off enough to make the north and south clash.It was definitely more complicated/nuanced than just to "free slaves".
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05-04-2023, 04:59 PM
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demoKKKrats wanted to keep black people enslaved on their plantations... and guess what, nothing has changed.
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Industrial vs agriculture power. End result leading to an empire and central banking
“If I could save the Union without freeing any slave I would do it, and if I could save it by freeing all the slaves I would do it; and if I could save it by freeing some and leaving others alone I would also do that.”
“If I could save the Union without freeing any slave I would do it, and if I could save it by freeing all the slaves I would do it; and if I could save it by freeing some and leaving others alone I would also do that.”
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Lack of compromise.
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Originally Posted By turk75⏩
Can confirm massa just beat the chit out of me for only picking 350 lbs of cotton today.demoKKKrats wanted to keep black people enslaved on their plantations... and guess what, nothing has changed.
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industrial hellscape vs southern idyllic agricultural paradise.
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Tariffs probably. The union had slave states. It would not make sense if it was about slavery because both sides had slaves. If true, the union would have banned slavery
The Emancipation Proclamation did not free slaves in the union. It only "freed" slaves that the union had no control over. It kept slaves in the union as slaves.
The Emancipation Proclamation did not free slaves in the union. It only "freed" slaves that the union had no control over. It kept slaves in the union as slaves.
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perhaps this would've been the perfect time for the US to split into two separate countries
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Literally north was mad that south was dominating in economic power despite having less population, and viewed it as unfair that south could have slaves and north couldn't (because of local government restrictions). It wasn't a moral fight regarding whether or not slavery is right or wrong - that didn't come until later when the north decided to kick sand in the south's face.
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Originally Posted By mulletwarrior⏩
Im not sure I get it. I wouldn't wage war a civil war against the rich parts of California because they are doing well financially.Literally north was mad that south was dominating in economic power despite having less population, and viewed it as unfair that south could have slaves and north couldn't (because of local government restrictions). It wasn't a moral fight regarding whether or not slavery is right or wrong - that didn't come until later when the north decided to kick sand in the south's face.
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05-04-2023, 05:28 PM
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Originally Posted By mulletwarrior⏩
Bro...that's not even remotely true. The North was FAR more industrialized (which played a massive part in them winning the war) and had a stronger economy, continuing to have a slave based agrarian economy actually significantly held the south back.Literally north was mad thatsouth was dominating in economic powerdespite having less population, and viewed it as unfair that south could have slaves and north couldn't (because of local government restrictions). It wasn't a moral fight regarding whether or not slavery is right or wrong - that didn't come until later when the north decided to kick sand in the south's face.
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yea slavery
ppl who say it was about states' rights or economic interests often fail to mention it was specifically states' rights to slavery and the economic consequences of slavery lmao
Don't believe me? Read the articles of secession from Texas. It reads like Dogkrack wrote it.
https://www.tsl.texas.gov/ref/aboutt.../2feb1861.html
ppl who say it was about states' rights or economic interests often fail to mention it was specifically states' rights to slavery and the economic consequences of slavery lmao
Don't believe me? Read the articles of secession from Texas. It reads like Dogkrack wrote it.
https://www.tsl.texas.gov/ref/aboutt.../2feb1861.html
We hold as undeniable truths that the governments of the various States, and of the confederacy itself, were established exclusively by the white race, for themselves and their posterity; that the African race had no agency in their establishment; that they were rightfully held and regarded as an inferior and dependent race, and in that condition only could their existence in this country be rendered beneficial or tolerable.
That in this free government all white men are and of right ought to be entitled to equal civil and political rights; that the servitude of the African race, as existing in these States, is mutually beneficial to both bond and free, and is abundantly authorized and justified by the experience of mankind, and the revealed will of the Almighty Creator, as recognized by all Christian nations; while the destruction of the existing relations between the two races, as advocated by our sectional enemies, would bring inevitable calamities upon both and desolation upon the fifteen slave-holding States.
You were the bad guys then. History did not remember you kindly. You are also the bad guys now. History will not remember you kindly.That in this free government all white men are and of right ought to be entitled to equal civil and political rights; that the servitude of the African race, as existing in these States, is mutually beneficial to both bond and free, and is abundantly authorized and justified by the experience of mankind, and the revealed will of the Almighty Creator, as recognized by all Christian nations; while the destruction of the existing relations between the two races, as advocated by our sectional enemies, would bring inevitable calamities upon both and desolation upon the fifteen slave-holding States.
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Originally Posted By Polaris⏩
Not really. The core issue was over slavery. The South was big mad because people wanted to ban slavery.It was definitely more complicated/nuanced than just to "free slaves".
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The Civil War was about "freeing slaves" as much as Iraq and Afghanistan was about "bringing democracy"......
Everything I post is satire.
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Originally Posted By N0stradamus⏩
The Civil War was about "freeing slaves" as much as Iraq and Afghanistan was about "brining democracy"......
Originally Posted By 401Delta⏩
https://www.tsl.texas.gov/ref/aboutt.../2feb1861.htmlpower/control
What has war ever been about?
What has war ever been about?
Read it. Then go take some time to reflect on how proud you are of your state lmao.
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It was pretty complicated. Had to do with attempting to avoid central bank installation but ultimately that failed 50-60 years later. It also paved the way for 14th amendment for "citizens" in which we all became subjects to a corporation vs nationals of a state.
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Originally Posted By jamalfudge⏩
https://www.tsl.texas.gov/ref/aboutt.../2feb1861.htmlIt was pretty complicated. Had to do with attempting to avoid central bank installation but ultimately that failed 50-60 years later. It also paved the way for 14th amendment for "citizens" in which we all became subjects to a corporation vs nationals of a state.
Read it. Then go take some time to reflect on how proud you are of your state lmao.
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Originally Posted By Banderistan⏩
Didn't click a single picture.https://www.tsl.texas.gov/ref/aboutt.../2feb1861.html
Read it. Then go take some time to reflect on how proud you are of your state lmao.
Read it. Then go take some time to reflect on how proud you are of your state lmao.
Stay mad.
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Originally Posted By 401Delta⏩
Didn't click a single picture.
Stay mad.
Stay mad.
We hold as undeniable truths that the governments of the various States, and of the confederacy itself, were established exclusively by the white race, for themselves and their posterity; that the African race had no agency in their establishment; that they were rightfully held and regarded as an inferior and dependent race, and in that condition only could their existence in this country be rendered beneficial or tolerable.
That in this free government all white men are and of right ought to be entitled to equal civil and political rights; that the servitude of the African race, as existing in these States, is mutually beneficial to both bond and free, and is abundantly authorized and justified by the experience of mankind, and the revealed will of the Almighty Creator, as recognized by all Christian nations; while the destruction of the existing relations between the two races, as advocated by our sectional enemies, would bring inevitable calamities upon both and desolation upon the fifteen slave-holding States.
YOU. Are. The. Baddies.That in this free government all white men are and of right ought to be entitled to equal civil and political rights; that the servitude of the African race, as existing in these States, is mutually beneficial to both bond and free, and is abundantly authorized and justified by the experience of mankind, and the revealed will of the Almighty Creator, as recognized by all Christian nations; while the destruction of the existing relations between the two races, as advocated by our sectional enemies, would bring inevitable calamities upon both and desolation upon the fifteen slave-holding States.
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Originally Posted By Banderistan⏩
Yeah, like I give a sh/t.... not even gonna look at it..... BTW I'm Cali born and raised, so I give even less of a sh/t.....https://www.tsl.texas.gov/ref/aboutt.../2feb1861.html
Read it. Then go take some time to reflect on how proud you are of your state lmao.
Read it. Then go take some time to reflect on how proud you are of your state lmao.
Everything I post is satire.
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