As long as he says he will end the Ukraine situation and Biden is committed to war, I'm forced to vote for this dipchit unless someone challenges him. God help us.

That's how it is. I genuinely believe that we are going about Ukraine all wrong and that it could very likely end in a nuclear strike on Ukraine if Russia starts losing. So no matter how retarded Trump is, nothing he could possibly do could fuk the world that badly. Biden doubled down on all of Trump's trash sanctions anyway. You guys call him Xiden, but he's been more provocative of China than Trump was.

Such faith in him keeping a campaign promise.

Such faith in him keeping a campaign promise.

Such faith in him keeping a campaign promise.

he kept several really important ones

I mean, beavercels are still voting for Mr. Fancy Socks...

Cool. Thanks for the update!

You can not trust any of these people on a promise, but you can get a feel for their true leanings and on this one: Biden is a hawk and wants more money to Ukraine and the war extended. Trump, while not Ron Paul or Tulsi Gabbard, showed throughout his presidency that more often than not he would try for peace, with some missteps such as in Iran.

Biden is sure-fire disaster in this regard, if you feel as Wincel does (and I 100% agree with him on this one). Trump is a wild card as always but not a sure-fire failure.

It's unfortunate our political systems still force a choice between a giant douche and turd sandwich.

At least you you guys have the leadership candidates on your ballots. That's enviable!

As long as he says he will end the Ukraine situation and Biden is committed to war, I'm forced to vote for this dipchit unless someone challenges him. God help us. Not that it matters because I live in a blue state.

That's how it is. I genuinely believe that we are going about Ukraine all wrong and that it could very likely end in a nuclear strike on Ukraine if Russia starts losing. So no matter how retarded Trump is, nothing he could possibly do could fuk the world that badly. Biden doubled down on all of Trump's trash sanctions anyway. You guys call him Xiden, but he's been more provocative of China than Trump was.

I also get the impression Trump has become hostile to our foreign policy establishment. And that's a good thing.

We just got out of a war started by a republican and the second republican to preside over said war bent the knee, forcing the democrat who curb stomped him and followed him, to hastily comply with the sh*tty deal knee-bender made. You really trust this cocksucker to end a war the right way? No. Fuk him and fuk you for even considering voting for him. I hope you die, Wincel. And soon.

As long as he says he will end the Ukraine situation and Biden is committed to war, I'm forced to vote for this dipchit unless someone challenges him. God help us. Not that it matters because I live in a blue state.

That's how it is. I genuinely believe that we are going about Ukraine all wrong and that it could very likely end in a nuclear strike on Ukraine if Russia starts losing. So no matter how retarded Trump is, nothing he could possibly do could fuk the world that badly. Biden doubled down on all of Trump's trash sanctions anyway. You guys call him Xiden, but he's been more provocative of China than Trump was.

I also get the impression Trump has become hostile to our foreign policy establishment. And that's a good thing.

It was foreseeable that electing Biden would make war in Ukraine likely, I don't see how this is surprising unless you are really stupid, if you voted for Biden then you voted for this war.

Biden made it clear that gas prices were going up, Russia is bad and Ukrainian NATO membership is on the table.

Our government gave Putin motive and opportunity because they want this war, maybe you should find y.

Oh? It was foreseeable prior to Biden's election that Putin would invade? Shut the fuk up. I expected Biden to act more responsibly. Remember, at the time, Trump had assassinated Iran's top general and was making nuclear death threats on twitter and provoking China. I did not expect Biden to double down on everything Trump did against China. I did not expect Biden to blow up the Nordstream pipeline. I thought Biden would advocate for Minsk 2. I really thought Minsk 2 would be settled. I never thought the Donbas issue would turn into this.

Call me stupid if you want, but I'm not a CIA insider, and neither are you. If you knew Putin would invade, you could have made a lot of money off it. I think you're full of chit.

Here is the raw truth Wincel

You have 3 choices

1. Don't vote- or vote for a write in/3rd party (same thing this election, and don't BS your way around thinking otherwise) (as well they way it stand now, will likely leave you taking option 2)

2. Vote for Biden. But you won't really be voting for Biden, you will be voting for an institution. Basically an oligarchy of the elites. He is just the puppet figurehead of an organization (if he lives the entire time). It will be George W Bush 2.0 with an extra flavor of SJW pandering, and supererogatory amounts of women's encroaching "fairness"(unfair) rights(at the expense of men).

This group will be fulfilling the needs of every "industrialist complex" there is. If you claim to not want pointless wars, and unneeded intervention- this isn't the way for sure. That amounts to many "the road to hell is paved with good intentions" policies. Although in reality it wont be good intentions, it will be a facade of good with ill or selfish intent "intentions".

If you have any respect for science, you will completely see this. This man is going to be 78 years of age on inauguration day. He will be 80 on the day congress takes session after the midterm elections. You know what this means. He is a puppet- that's it. His brain isn't functional, and will only get worse. Now Trump is of age as well, but he will only be 74 on inauguration day, and yes he's a bit nutty(I'll get to that next), but lets be real- all his mental faculties are still clearly intact- My guess is money for years helps that a lot...


3. Vote for Trump. Trump is an asshat at times.(I hate that word, but a good description). He says things just to say things, and often speaks in hyperbole. He shoots from the hip- and often the direct content of what he says by definition is inaccurate- "what he means" understood by the laymen is- he he does this unscripted often "keeping it real"

He's not dumb(you'll realize this if you ever get the opportunity to meet him in private), he just doesn't give a fuk about speaking in technical accuracy at all. Definitely not the kind of guy I would want working in my organization, or to work for- But that is not the role he's filling right now.

He is an "everything is about me" person who wants to be thought of highly, as the best in everything, and most especially he wants to be appreciated. This isn't to be confused with the "me first" type. He's fulfilled his personal wealth gain thirst- now its about the world recognized he is the best person at doing basically everything there is. Pure ego driven. Wants to be well thought of more than anything else.

And he wants to be well thought of by the common man. By blue collar brah, by the regular joe. He's been ostracized by the real wealthy people his entire life- thought of as a joke- never taken serious- looked at is "not really part of the crew" - He tried in every-way socializing with them, but never could fit in. He built resentment towards them. He made is own little world of clubs and hangouts with some fairly wealthy people to seem important, but it wasn't really with "the crew". He hates them, and doesn't give a fuk about satisfying them or any of the "industrial complexes" for anything (unless it helps the average Joe). He isn't trying to enrich himself by position- he's trying to make everyone respect or admire him, and when I mean everyone I mean the common folk. He wants to WIN, he wants to be the winner against the "elites" he wants to "show them". This has tremendous value for you and me.

He has a respect for the traditions of America, and the people that built it- the freedoms it once had(to a certain extent).

But at the end of the day- its about him- and by that i don't mean "me first", I mean"everything about me"


The biggest difference here though-He will actually be the president- 0 question. No one, or no group, will take the reins and really run the show. Almost no one will influence him(his kids and Jared a little)

This ego is a good thing for the Americans. This "keeping it real" shooting from the him hyperbole talk is a good thing. This trolling and taking jabs at the media and establishment is a good thing. This saying what the F he wants with NSFWG is a good thing. It is what need in that role.

He will not be controlled



That's we need. He want's to WIN, and WIN for us. He just want's us to appreciate him for it and him be recognized for it(prob childhood issues, who cares). It's perfect for that role- Americans first with no oligarchy control.




What's really important to understand is this "best at everything". He wants every major scientific achievement to happen under him. He wants to be credited for going to F'ing Mars. He want's the economy to boom. He wants people to be safe. He wants to be known as the world wide best peace deal person. Walk across the line and try to talk to KIM, who give a fuk type guy.

This is why you see things like what actually happens (not what he proposes or spew as rhetoric) i.e The greatest increase in research/science budgets in decades, the greatest increase in the NIH in decades, etc.


He is a nationalist, and want's all the greatness for US- first. Wouldn't mind the rest of the world doing well, but its still US first- that is something you'll have to contend with. If we aren't doing well the globe won't either. And if we allow out production of materials, extraction of resources, or creation of energy to move overseas more- It will be done much dirtier, with much worse emissions, etc- but it will always be done- might as well be us a little less "dirty". I'll expand into that more someday later also.


Climate change- I'm going to have to get deeper with you on that sometime later- but yea he is better for that also- much better.

Do you disagree that the U.S. government gave Putin motive and opportunity to invade Ukraine?

If you were trying to discourage a "Russian war" with Ukraine, what moves would you make?

If you make moves to instigate war and don't make moves to discourage it, do you want it?

im going to mail in vote for biden to cancel out your vote

If you want a specific breakdown of how US policy going all the way back to daddy Bush lead to this war:

We just got out of a war started by a republican and the second republican to preside over said war bent the knee, forcing the democrat who curb stomped him and followed him, to hastily comply with the sh*tty deal knee-bender made. You really trust this cocksucker to end a war the right way? No. Fuk him and fuk you for even considering voting for him. I hope you die, Wincel. And soon.

I'll bet you anything you want that Russia doesn't nuke Ukraine in the next 4 years.

You're just wrong about it. Also you sympathize with child molesters, something is wrong with you.

I'll bet you anything you want that Russia doesn't nuke Ukraine in the next 4 years.

You're just wrong about it. Also you sympathize with child molesters, something is wrong with you.