Thread: Have men undervalued themselves?
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Have men undervalued themselves?
I see this ******** video of guy named Michael Santini or something on some podcast show and he's talking to these bimbo sloots asking what percentage of men represent some very generic stats he gives...the sloots are saying 20%, 18%, 15%, 12%, 10% and one 7%.
The stats he asked for a percentage representation are:
Any race
5 foot 10
$70k income
Not married
Not obese
At the end of the clip he says this is 1.5% of men.
Then he says something like imagine what the percentage is that will 1) sleep with you, 2) be in a relationship with you, 3) not cheat on you
For most women that is probably 0.5% or less of men.
Modern culture and feminism has made women delusional beyond repair.
The stats he asked for a percentage representation are:
Any race
5 foot 10
$70k income
Not married
Not obese
At the end of the clip he says this is 1.5% of men.
Then he says something like imagine what the percentage is that will 1) sleep with you, 2) be in a relationship with you, 3) not cheat on you
For most women that is probably 0.5% or less of men.
Modern culture and feminism has made women delusional beyond repair.
05-17-2023, 12:25 AM
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Originally Posted By DomMJr⏩
where did you get that stat?statistics is for people with no understanding of anything
05-17-2023, 12:31 AM
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I mean if you were given the question like this but reversed for females what would your 'best case' girl be like?
- Traditional
- 8/10 or higher that's fit and has pretty face and ass
- wants a family
- is submissive
what's the percentage of women who fits these criteria? 1%
Ofc you can virtue signal and make it look like you're fine with a 6/10 that's not obese and is kind, but that isn't the point.
- Traditional
- 8/10 or higher that's fit and has pretty face and ass
- wants a family
- is submissive
what's the percentage of women who fits these criteria? 1%
Ofc you can virtue signal and make it look like you're fine with a 6/10 that's not obese and is kind, but that isn't the point.
05-17-2023, 12:38 AM
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Originally Posted By zarathu5tra⏩
i'd say throughout all of history most men have been fine with women well under 8/10 with remotely decent character (doesn't cheat).I mean if you were given the question like this but reversed for females what would your 'best case' girl be like?
- Traditional
- 8/10 or higher that's fit and has pretty face and ass
- wants a family
- is submissive
what's the percentage of women who fits these criteria? 1%
Ofc you can virtue signal and make it look like you're fine with a 6/10 that's not obese and is kind, but that isn't the point.
- Traditional
- 8/10 or higher that's fit and has pretty face and ass
- wants a family
- is submissive
what's the percentage of women who fits these criteria? 1%
Ofc you can virtue signal and make it look like you're fine with a 6/10 that's not obese and is kind, but that isn't the point.
05-17-2023, 12:40 AM
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This doesn't take into account being ugly
There's no realistic statistic to add into the variable for physical attractiveness
A guy can be a 3/10 face but 2% on paper and women would rather a Hobo chad
Srs
There's no realistic statistic to add into the variable for physical attractiveness
A guy can be a 3/10 face but 2% on paper and women would rather a Hobo chad
Srs
05-17-2023, 12:42 AM
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A man has to do 10x the work to get 10x less quality of a woman compared to our grandparents.
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Originally Posted By TOUCHEDbyMany⏩
6’2This doesn't take into account being ugly
There's no realistic statistic to add into the variable for physical attractiveness
A guy can be a 3/10 face but 2% on paper and women would rather a Hobo chad
Srs
There's no realistic statistic to add into the variable for physical attractiveness
A guy can be a 3/10 face but 2% on paper and women would rather a Hobo chad
Srs
8x6 dick
Car house decent money
Good job
Good looking
Yet when women ask me about my education.
And I tell them I didn’t finish highschool.
They literally stand up and walk away on a date.
So its not just looks.
05-17-2023, 12:48 AM
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Originally Posted By TOUCHEDbyMany⏩
im sure you can further whittle down that number. average face or better, goes the gym at least 1-2x/week, 5'10, 70k, not obese not married might be less than 1% of men. yet in clown world that is considered a very basic dude.This doesn't take into account being ugly
There's no realistic statistic to add into the variable for physical attractiveness
A guy can be a 3/10 face but 2% on paper and women would rather a Hobo chad
Srs
There's no realistic statistic to add into the variable for physical attractiveness
A guy can be a 3/10 face but 2% on paper and women would rather a Hobo chad
Srs
05-17-2023, 12:52 AM
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Originally Posted By ****inator⏩
Exactly and that's why thisA man has to do 10x the work to get 10x less quality of a woman compared to our grandparents.
Originally Posted By zarathu5tra⏩
Falls flat on its face.I mean if you were given the question like this but reversed for females what would your 'best case' girl be like?
- Traditional
- 8/10 or higher that's fit and has pretty face and ass
- wants a family
- is submissive
what's the percentage of women who fits these criteria? 1%
Ofc you can virtue signal and make it look like you're fine with a 6/10 that's not obese and is kind, but that isn't the point.
- Traditional
- 8/10 or higher that's fit and has pretty face and ass
- wants a family
- is submissive
what's the percentage of women who fits these criteria? 1%
Ofc you can virtue signal and make it look like you're fine with a 6/10 that's not obese and is kind, but that isn't the point.
All women need to do is be not obese, not hoes, and not be combative about every little thing and not be feminists.
Should that be a tall order?
No, but that's the way it i now.
Men can't complain otherwise you get autists who jump all over them and so they give up. If women can't even behave and look or speak like women anymore, why would men even bother competing for such a piss poor pool of women?
You'll see what's happening now. Men giving up. I'm not going to date argumentative, annoying, fat, unkempt, unpresentable woman. To what? Lead to a failed marriage?
Is that supposed to be a privilege on my end?
Anyone who frames it as a men problem is delusional.
05-17-2023, 01:05 AM
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Originally Posted By lexbishop⏩
which in a peak functioning society should be 80%+ of women. instead you get far lesser quality women all chasing 1% or less of men...thus making the other 99% feel like they need to do more and more and more for far less returns. it's like continuing to poor money into a stock that goes down 10% every single year.Exactly and that's why this
Falls flat on its face.
All women need to do is be not obese, not hoes, and not be combative about every little thing and not be feminists.
Should that be a tall order?
No, but that's the way it i now.
Men can't complain otherwise you get autists who jump all over them and so they give up. If women can't even behave and look or speak like women anymore, why would men even bother competing for such a piss poor pool of women?
You'll see what's happening now. Men giving up. I'm not going to date argumentative, annoying, fat, unkempt, unpresentable woman. To what? Lead to a failed marriage?
Is that supposed to be a privilege on my end?
Anyone who frames it as a men problem is delusional.
Falls flat on its face.
All women need to do is be not obese, not hoes, and not be combative about every little thing and not be feminists.
Should that be a tall order?
No, but that's the way it i now.
Men can't complain otherwise you get autists who jump all over them and so they give up. If women can't even behave and look or speak like women anymore, why would men even bother competing for such a piss poor pool of women?
You'll see what's happening now. Men giving up. I'm not going to date argumentative, annoying, fat, unkempt, unpresentable woman. To what? Lead to a failed marriage?
Is that supposed to be a privilege on my end?
Anyone who frames it as a men problem is delusional.
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Originally Posted By jack5432⏩
Giga cope6’2
8x6 dick
Car house decent money
Good job
Good looking
Yet when women ask me about my education.
And I tell them I didn’t finish highschool.
They literally stand up and walk away on a date.
So its not just looks.
8x6 dick
Car house decent money
Good job
Good looking
Yet when women ask me about my education.
And I tell them I didn’t finish highschool.
They literally stand up and walk away on a date.
So its not just looks.
Whatever makes you sleep better at night
05-17-2023, 01:12 AM
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thats life,the changes
in the last 10 years
shifted alot...and made
the family/modesty
under attack,,,
and lately they are tackling
the last brick, drags for kids!
which will fuk the whole structure.
in the last 10 years
shifted alot...and made
the family/modesty
under attack,,,
and lately they are tackling
the last brick, drags for kids!
which will fuk the whole structure.
05-17-2023, 01:18 AM
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Yes, many do. They need to stop thinking they need a woman to make them happy. That doesn't work. Stop settling for low tier women. In fact, I look down on women who have had relationships with low tier males.
Recently met a girl who has a degree in business and accounting who's going for her CPA. Has a good income and makes great money and owns her own home She's never been married or had kids. She doesn't drink, smoke, do any drugs, girl won't even drink anything with caffeen in it. No tattoos and only piercings are her ears. Doesn't wear makup. She really likes me too, I better not fuk this up.
Recently met a girl who has a degree in business and accounting who's going for her CPA. Has a good income and makes great money and owns her own home She's never been married or had kids. She doesn't drink, smoke, do any drugs, girl won't even drink anything with caffeen in it. No tattoos and only piercings are her ears. Doesn't wear makup. She really likes me too, I better not fuk this up.
05-17-2023, 01:36 AM
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As delusional as clown world has made society regarding topics such as gender, LGBTQIA, race, and politics, it's fair to say it has also caused a severe impact on delusions for modern hetero males. These delusions, as illustrated by OP, are low self esteem, low confidence, and straight up undervaluing their situations.
There are short, fat, low income, busted face, bald males with 6+/10 dimes. Yet there are 8+/10 Chads/Chadlites settling with 3/10 obese Karens. Maybe it's mental illness. Maybe it's LTR's gone wrong where she got fat+ugly (or had kids) and Chad kept the feels going all the same. Maybe it's copium to be with someone whom is far lower /10 for lower chance of cheating. Or just HTC gone too far.
Makes me think of the below. The dude's not a Chad but he could've done way better, and freaks out at his morbidly obese wife wanting to lose weight.
There are short, fat, low income, busted face, bald males with 6+/10 dimes. Yet there are 8+/10 Chads/Chadlites settling with 3/10 obese Karens. Maybe it's mental illness. Maybe it's LTR's gone wrong where she got fat+ugly (or had kids) and Chad kept the feels going all the same. Maybe it's copium to be with someone whom is far lower /10 for lower chance of cheating. Or just HTC gone too far.
Makes me think of the below. The dude's not a Chad but he could've done way better, and freaks out at his morbidly obese wife wanting to lose weight.
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Originally Posted By Jasonw1178⏩
see you in the gym brotherYes, many do. They need to stop thinking they need a woman to make them happy. That doesn't work. Stop settling for low tier women. In fact, I look down on women who have had relationships with low tier males.
Recently met a girl who has a degree in business and accounting who's going for her CPA. Has a good income and makes great money and owns her own home She's never been married or had kids. She doesn't drink, smoke, do any drugs, girl won't even drink anything with caffeen in it. No tattoos and only piercings are her ears. Doesn't wear makup. She really likes me too, I better not fuk this up.
Recently met a girl who has a degree in business and accounting who's going for her CPA. Has a good income and makes great money and owns her own home She's never been married or had kids. She doesn't drink, smoke, do any drugs, girl won't even drink anything with caffeen in it. No tattoos and only piercings are her ears. Doesn't wear makup. She really likes me too, I better not fuk this up.
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Originally Posted By eddiehaskell⏩
Bingo.which in a peak functioning society should be 80%+ of women. instead you get far lesser quality women all chasing 1% or less of men...thus making the other 99% feel like they need to do more and more and more for far less returns. it's like continuing to poor money into a stock that goes down 10% every single year.
And we can't control what women do or who they go for.
And so would I risk my sanity and whatever I HAVE worked for over not just someone who can't basically take care of herself, but someone who's going to be toxic and bad for my future?
If the playing field was equal, anther was a much higher percentage of women to compete FOR,
THEN I could understand turning it around on men. But that's not the case, soooo...
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Originally Posted By eddiehaskell⏩
Look as much as modern society wants you to think that men and women are a great pair together , I would say that it isn't sooo . In previous days companionship between men and women would mean the female pregnancy , all my friends in college or doing jobs don't get much action as miscers do(except for miscers the regular world doesnt get laid 24x7).I see this ******** video of guy named Michael Santini or something on some podcast show and he's talking to these bimbo sloots asking what percentage of men represent some very generic stats he gives...the sloots are saying 20%, 18%, 15%, 12%, 10% and one 7%.
The stats he asked for a percentage representation are:
Any race
5 foot 10
$70k income
Not married
Not obese
At the end of the clip he says this is 1.5% of men.
Then he says something like imagine what the percentage is that will 1) sleep with you, 2) be in a relationship with you, 3) not cheat on you
For most women that is probably 0.5% or less of men.
Modern culture and feminism has made women delusional beyond repair.
The stats he asked for a percentage representation are:
Any race
5 foot 10
$70k income
Not married
Not obese
At the end of the clip he says this is 1.5% of men.
Then he says something like imagine what the percentage is that will 1) sleep with you, 2) be in a relationship with you, 3) not cheat on you
For most women that is probably 0.5% or less of men.
Modern culture and feminism has made women delusional beyond repair.
Getting laid as a dude is hard , nobody will disagree with you .
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Originally Posted By Visel⏩
Fat percentage is so important for looks especially in the face.As delusional as clown world has made society regarding topics such as gender, LGBTQIA, race, and politics, it's fair to say it has also caused a severe impact on delusions for modern hetero males. These delusions, as illustrated by OP, are low self esteem, low confidence, and straight up undervaluing their situations.
There are short, fat, low income, busted face, bald males with 6+/10 dimes. Yet there are 8+/10 Chads/Chadlites settling with 3/10 obese Karens. Maybe it's mental illness. Maybe it's LTR's gone wrong where she got fat+ugly (or had kids) and Chad kept the feels going all the same. Maybe it's copium to be with someone whom is far lower /10 for lower chance of cheating. Or just HTC gone too far.
Makes me think of the below. The dude's not a Chad but he could've done way better, and freaks out at his morbidly obese wife wanting to lose weight.
There are short, fat, low income, busted face, bald males with 6+/10 dimes. Yet there are 8+/10 Chads/Chadlites settling with 3/10 obese Karens. Maybe it's mental illness. Maybe it's LTR's gone wrong where she got fat+ugly (or had kids) and Chad kept the feels going all the same. Maybe it's copium to be with someone whom is far lower /10 for lower chance of cheating. Or just HTC gone too far.
Makes me think of the below. The dude's not a Chad but he could've done way better, and freaks out at his morbidly obese wife wanting to lose weight.
If a guy gains that much weight in a relationship the girl almost always leaves.
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Originally Posted By Jasonw1178⏩
but what does she look like? the tiers of females is based on looks broYes, many do. They need to stop thinking they need a woman to make them happy. That doesn't work. Stop settling for low tier women. In fact, I look down on women who have had relationships with low tier males.
Recently met a girl who has a degree in business and accounting who's going for her CPA. Has a good income and makes great money and owns her own home She's never been married or had kids. She doesn't drink, smoke, do any drugs, girl won't even drink anything with caffeen in it. No tattoos and only piercings are her ears. Doesn't wear makup. She really likes me too, I better not fuk this up.
Recently met a girl who has a degree in business and accounting who's going for her CPA. Has a good income and makes great money and owns her own home She's never been married or had kids. She doesn't drink, smoke, do any drugs, girl won't even drink anything with caffeen in it. No tattoos and only piercings are her ears. Doesn't wear makup. She really likes me too, I better not fuk this up.
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The manosphere is full of gays and bigots.
It used to be about men developing their seductive powers to increase influence and impress women. Now it's grown into something that aims to denigrate women and impress other men.
The endgame for a lot of these folks is to become lonely and/or a ph4ggot.
It used to be about men developing their seductive powers to increase influence and impress women. Now it's grown into something that aims to denigrate women and impress other men.
The endgame for a lot of these folks is to become lonely and/or a ph4ggot.
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Originally Posted By TOUCHEDbyMany⏩
Well back when I was skinny I got approached a lot by girls.Giga cope
Whatever makes you sleep better at night
Whatever makes you sleep better at night
It’s just my experience some girls are really picky when it comes to a long term relationship.
I should add that most of them were med students/career driven girls.
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Originally Posted By BasedLiberal⏩
well if it's full of jays they would certainly be getting laid considering the jays seem to hook up randomly with no consideration for a 1-10 scale.The manosphere is full of gays and bigots.
It used to be about men developing their seductive powers to increase influence and impress women. Now it's grown into something that aims to denigrate women and impress other men.
The endgame for a lot of these folks is to become lonely and/or a ph4ggot.
It used to be about men developing their seductive powers to increase influence and impress women. Now it's grown into something that aims to denigrate women and impress other men.
The endgame for a lot of these folks is to become lonely and/or a ph4ggot.
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The game is looks-based now. No one gives a fuk about your income or how "responsible" you are, because no one is having children.
It's the same deal with sloots. Even 20 years ago, you had to appear more motherly and responsible to get a guy to take you srsly. Now you're never going to be a mother, so fuk it, why not just whore out and get male attention.
It's the same deal with sloots. Even 20 years ago, you had to appear more motherly and responsible to get a guy to take you srsly. Now you're never going to be a mother, so fuk it, why not just whore out and get male attention.
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Originally Posted By FA*******⏩
could be true...i've thought for years now that the human species is actually devolving to be more primitive. and we are doing it alongside technology which fools us into thinking we aren't. AI may speed up this process 10 fold. Do squirrels or something in the wild ask each other about income or having a house or cheating before they mate? Nowhere is it written in the stars that humans have to continually progress into some idealized version of "better".The game is looks-based now. No one gives a fuk about your income or how "responsible" you are, because no one is having children.
It's the same deal with sloots. Even 20 years ago, you had to appear more motherly and responsible to get a guy to take you srsly. Now you're never going to be a mother, so fuk it, why not just whore out and get male attention.
It's the same deal with sloots. Even 20 years ago, you had to appear more motherly and responsible to get a guy to take you srsly. Now you're never going to be a mother, so fuk it, why not just whore out and get male attention.
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Low-tier men deserve low-tier women, and that's really all it comes down to. Angus was just a movie. The sloppy fat guy is never getting the prom queen. Many guys live in this fantasy world where they're fat and have a ****ty job, and still pull 8s they call 4s. Its not real. Step outside. Go to the mall. Look around. A guy with a decent job, 20% bodyfat, and a Toyota Corolla can still realistically pull a decent woman. He's just realistic about it. Misc lives in a fantasy world where they crave slutty hot women, that aren't sluts. That doesn't exist. Just like Santa and the Easter Bunny. And they blame women when they can't get it. They obsess over Instagram thots, and get upsetty spaghetti that they can't pull them. If anything they overvalue themselves.
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Originally Posted By mattb717⏩
sounds like those dudes would be low functioning in today's world. what are they doing sitting around like the dudes on dumb and dumber at 40 yrs old thinking "one day we'll catch our break too"? in real life i'm not sure if i've met these fat, lazy, slobs that hold out only for 8s and 9s.Low-tier men deserve low-tier women, and that's really all it comes down to. Angus was just a movie. The sloppy fat guy is never getting the prom queen. Many guys live in this fantasy world where they're fat and have a ****ty job, and still pull 8s they call 4s. Its not real. Step outside. Go to the mall. Look around. A guy with a decent job, 20% bodyfat, and a Toyota Corolla can still realistically pull a decent woman. He's just realistic about it. Misc lives in a fantasy world where they crave slutty hot women, that aren't sluts. That doesn't exist. Just like Santa and the Easter Bunny. And they blame women when they can't get it. They obsess over Instagram thots, and get upsetty spaghetti that they can't pull them. If anything they overvalue themselves.
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Originally Posted By Kiop⏩
Basically this. Once that last step completes over the next 10 years, it’s game over for this society.thats life,the changes
in the last 10 years
shifted alot...and made
the family/modesty
under attack,,,
and lately they are tackling
the last brick, drags for kids!
which will fuk the whole structure.
in the last 10 years
shifted alot...and made
the family/modesty
under attack,,,
and lately they are tackling
the last brick, drags for kids!
which will fuk the whole structure.
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