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post 1683205743 05-22-2023, 06:33 PM
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Any 200lb+ miscer believes you can beat a 150lb trained fighter in a fist fight?

Srs.

Any of you big brahs who's never trained MMA believe you can beat a 150 lb professional fighter since you got 50 lbs+ on them?
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Nah no way. Not a trained fighter I don’t care how much they weigh. I have never trained how to fight.
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Originally Posted By monster0ultra⏩
There's levels to training. There's a huge difference between some guy who takes some classes and an actual pro. Then there's a huge difference between an actual pro and a big league UFC guy. Then there's a huge difference between a UFC guy and the champ of that division.
Imagine thinking you can manhandle Alexander Volkanovski cause you have big biceps and have 50 lbs on him.
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Even a 150lb Jiu Jitsu hobbyist could easily win against a 200lb untrained man

A professional fighter wouldn’t even be a competition. The miscer would die
post 1683206893 05-22-2023, 06:53 PM
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I'm 222lbs and do not consider myself big lol. Heck no I couldn't beat a trained 150lbs fighter. 200+ is hardly "big". I'd say maybe 250 and up. but anything less isn't big.
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post 1683206953 05-22-2023, 06:54 PM
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No I don't think I could beat any male MMA fighter and I'm 265 pounds.
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post 1683207133 05-22-2023, 06:57 PM
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Originally Posted By 20Mavs11⏩
I'm 222lbs and do not consider myself big lol. Heck no I couldn't beat a trained 150lbs fighter. 200+ is hardly "big". I'd say maybe 250 and up. but anything less isn't big.
Even 250 lbs would get demolished.

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post 1683207463 05-22-2023, 07:02 PM
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Originally Posted By explosiveMidget⏩
Yep someone like khabib would ragdoll any untrained male alive regardless of what he weighed, srs
Unless we’re talking top .00001%

Prime shaq would probably win
post 1683207493 05-22-2023, 07:03 PM
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Originally Posted By navid93⏩
Unless we’re talking top .00001%

Prime shaq would probably win
No.
post 1683207683 05-22-2023, 07:07 PM
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Originally Posted By Gaedj⏩
No.


At some point strength and size matters. You can have all the skill in world but physics still exists

Shaq claims he weighed 395lb in 2002
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I've embarassed plenty of "trained" mma guys at barbecues and stuff. A 150lb guy vs me at 245? There is nothing they can do. I just flop on top of them, pin their arms to the ground and laugh as they squirm, or bear hug them with their arms pinned to their sides and squeeze the breath out of them. Would I "win" in a fight like that? No it would get split up, and eventually they would tire me out, but at a picnic with all the girls laughing at them as they struggle I always thought it was fun.

This is just play wrestling. If someone wanted to fist fight me for real in the street I would just shoot them.
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post 1683207863 05-22-2023, 07:11 PM
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Originally Posted By navid93⏩
At some point strength and size matters. You can have all the skill in world but physics still exists
Hong Man Choi would've fked up Shaq if they ever fought, and he still lost to Fedor who weighs only ~230 lb. Khabib walks around at 200 lb and is a much better overall wrestler & grappler than Fedor.

If he ever fought Shaq, he would've 100% taken him down and submit or ground pound.

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Originally Posted By Kev1972⏩
I've embarassed plenty of "trained" mma guys at barbecues and stuff. A 150lb guy vs me at 245? There is nothing they can do. I just flop on top of them, pin their arms to the ground and laugh as they squirm, or bear hug them with their arms pinned to their sides and squeeze the breath out of them. Would I "win" in a fight like that? No it would get split up, and eventually they would tire me out, but at a picnic with all the girls laughing at them as they struggle I always thought it was fun.
Not sure if srs or just completely delusional. Please go to a local MMA gym and spar one of the professional fighters (or even amateurs). Or you can continue being delusional.
post 1683207953 05-22-2023, 07:13 PM
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Originally Posted By Gaedj⏩
Hong Man Choi would've fked up Shaq if they ever fought, and he still lost to Fedor who weighs only ~230 lb. Khabib walks around at 200 lb and is a much better overall wrestler & grappler than Fedor.

If he ever fought Shaq, he would've 100% taken him down and submit or ground pound.

I guess we’re talking different time periods. I was talking about when Khabib was fighting, he weighed about 155lb. Shaq weighed almost 400lbs and was incredibly athletic. On top of that Khabib is 5’8 while Shaq is 7’1
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When I started training in MMA , I had about 50 pounds on a competitive very strong amature fighter who was coaching me, there is no freaking way that I would stand a chance against him in a real fight,

after about a year of good training, he started mentioning that he’s having trouble sparring with me due to the reach, and he was starting to look for a large size sparring partners for me, even though I maintained that he would absolutely murder me in a fight if he tried.

as we approached two years of training I started feeling that I could do something, but I would still not want to face an actual competitive fighter even several weight classes below me, these people train all day all their life, and basically live in the fight gym, they have endless cardio, and they are very tough, very good balance also.

If I had to face a strong amateur or a professional MMA fighter, I would need a time machine to go back to when I was 20 years old so I can start young, I would want about five years preparation, then I would feel that it would be at least a fair fight.
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Originally Posted By navid93⏩
I guess we’re talking different time periods. I was talking about when Khabib was fighting when he weighed about 155lb. Shaq weighed almost 400lbs and was incredibly athletic. On top of that Khabib is 5’8 while Shaq is 7’1
Athleticism really don't mean chit unless you have techniques. You'd know this if you've trained MMA. There are plenty of freak athletes from NFL who never managed to have a successful career in the UFC cause they started too late and were too old to learn all the techniques needed to become a top fighter.
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Originally Posted By navid93⏩
I guess we’re talking different time periods. I was talking about when Khabib was fighting, he weighed about 155lb. Shaq weighed almost 400lbs and was incredibly athletic. On top of that Khabib is 5’8 while Shaq is 7’1
Shaq is getting his arm broken by khabib, because shack is not quick enough to tap on time,
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Originally Posted By Gaedj⏩
Athleticism really don't mean chit unless you have techniques. You'd know this if you've trained MMA. There are plenty of freak athletes from NFL who never managed to have a successful career in the UFC cause they started too late and were too old to learn all the techniques needed to become a top fighter.
I think a lot of fighters take “skill can beat size” and turn it into “size doesn’t matter” which is of course false

I’m talking about PRIME Shaq. Mid 20s, not a retired 40 year old nfl player. And Shaq is probably bigger than those nfl players you’re talking about.

Did you see that video I posted? The mountain could eat Connor for breakfast
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Originally Posted By navid93⏩


At some point strength and size matters. You can have all the skill in world but physics still exists

Shaq claims he weighed 395lb in 2002
so are you talking about shaq or the mountain? pretty huge difference, one is the worlds strongest man, the other is a very large basketball player
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Ive tried that shtt

its much harder than you think. a guy who trains for fighting can beat up men 100lb+ on them easily
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Originally Posted By navid93⏩
I think a lot of fighters take “skill can beat size” and turn it into “size doesn’t matter” which is of course false

I’m talking about PRIME Shaq. Mid 20s, not a retired 40 year old nfl player. And Shaq is probably bigger than those nfl players you’re talking about.

Did you see that video I posted? The mountain could eat Connor for breakfast
Why are you using Conor as an example? Lol. Let's say the mountain can beat Conor (although it's impossible to know until they fight for real).

There's still massive difference between Conor and Khabib.

Conor is primarily a striker, and Khabib is a wrestler/grappler.

Assuming Shaq has no MMA training during his prime, Khabib would 100% take him down and finish him on the ground.
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Originally Posted By navid93⏩
Did you see that video I posted? The mountain could eat Connor for breakfast
wrestling/bjj is different though. if you don't know how to wrestle, you will get fked by smaller guys who do.

that's just how it is.

Khabib's fighting style could work against a big guy much better than Conors.
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Originally Posted By Gaedj⏩
Even 250 lbs would get demolished.

160 lb wrestler vs 340 lb bodybuilder

Nobody in this video is 340lbs. lol
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No. Conor Mcgregor, Nate, Nick Diaz, Chris Leben would beat up most men in a fist fight.

It’s just that fighters like Brock Lesnar, Roy Nelson, cris Cyborg, Mike Tyson and Butterbean would push our **** in even harder than any <185 lb fighter.

Answer: no I don’t. Just the heavies hit harder and will hurt you worse. Right Sherlock
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Originally Posted By LinuxJon⏩
Nobody in this video is 340lbs. lol
Apparently the commentator states he weighs 140kg which equates to 308 lb.
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It’s not smart to bet on the mountain (vs Conor McGregor), there is head butts, elbows, flying arm bars, there is a groin area and so on, it seems many of you guys simply have not sparred with contact versus real fighters, otherwise you wouldn’t be saying stuff like that, fighting is a very specific sport, you do not get to be better at it than professionals just because you’re bigger,

just like you’re not beating a chess grandmaster just because you’re really really smart, you are not beating Serena Williams just because you’re really good at ping-pong and you are a man, it’s not how these things work, these are very specific sports, and you’re going to lose due to very specific techniques that you are not aware of.
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