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All of these cannot be true

1) Vaccines are a WEF deep state Soros/Gates conspiracy with Pfizer, etc.

2) Trump is against the WEF Globalist deep state shills.

Because Trump helped get out the vaccines and recommended everyone take them. So how do you square that with him being against those people?

Either he's compromised or he isn't.
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Those two binary statements could not both be true, yes.

What could be true:
1) Vaccines were poorly tested junk oversold and mandated by greedy corporations abusing their power over politicians/media for their profit

2) Trump is a blowhard pussy when it comes down to it and would do anything to have gotten the economy back on track

... those two statements certainlycould possiblyboth be true.

Now, if we want to muddy the waters, and delve into theories about WEF/whoevers using this opportunity to exert control and make some money at the same time and Trump either not being firmly against them or even one of their puppets, you start to lose me the weirder things get but I'm happy to listen to theories about things, provided it's not in a Skylinerd, "THIS IS HOW IS MUST BE 100% TRUTH, CAN NOT BE OTHERWISE, PATRIOTS RAIDING GERMAN BANKS AS I TYPE" mentally unhinged CTard way.
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Originally Posted By JUSA⏩
Those two binary statements could not both be true, yes.

What could be true:
1) Vaccines were poorly tested junk oversold and mandated by greedy corporations abusing their power over politicians/media for their profit

2) Trump is a blowhard pussy when it comes down to it and would do anything to have gotten the economy back on track

... those two statements certainlycould possiblyboth be true.

Now, if we want to muddy the waters, and delve into theories about WEF/whoevers using this opportunity to exert control and make some money at the same time and Trump either not being firmly against them or even one of their puppets, you start to lose me the weirder things get but I'm happy to listen to theories about things, provided it's not in a Skylinerd, "THIS IS HOW IS MUST BE 100% TRUTH, CAN NOT BE OTHERWISE, PATRIOTS RAIDING GERMAN BANKS AS I TYPE" mentally unhinged CTard way.
So supposing this line, Trump knowingly pushed out poorly tested junk. Yet everyone still supports him and trusts him? Intredasting.

Basically either Trump has good judgment or he doesn't. Since he endorsed and helped get the vaccines out, if people truly believe the vaccines are harmful, why does he get a pass? People are not being consistent. It's the same way people go after Fauci, but give their governors a pass when their governors gave the order.

It's weird.
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You realize every time he pushed it in a speech, he'd get booed?
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Originally Posted By Dave22reborn⏩
You realize every time he pushed it in a speech, he'd get booed?
But does that change anything? You guys still support him. If you think there was a conspiracy, he's part of it.
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Originally Posted By Banderistan⏩
So supposing this line, Trump knowingly pushed out poorly tested junk. Yet everyone still supports him and trusts him? Intredasting.

Basically either Trump has good judgment or he doesn't. Since he endorsed and helped get the vaccines out, if people truly believe the vaccines are harmful, why does he get a pass? People are not being consistent.
People can be critical of things he's done, but still support the guy overall. If I had to guess it's - it was early so not much was none and he hoped it would be highly effective (due to his big ego) and he could use it as a bragging point (which I believe he's doing to some extent anyway).

Either way, and the much bigger point, he never advocated for mandates or shyt like that.
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Originally Posted By Banderistan⏩
But does that change anything? You guys still support him. If you think there was a conspiracy, he's part of it.
As fascists like yourself and nolibs like to say

The option was Hilary Clinton and Joe Biden
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Originally Posted By Banderistan⏩
So supposing this line, Trump knowingly pushed out poorly tested junk. Yet everyone still supports him and trusts him? Intredasting.
No on this, no. Even at his own rallies he gets luke warm responses, if not outright Boo'ed.

Me, I'm like you on some issues - I weigh the good and the bad. For me, his Foreign Policy is enough to hold my nose and vote for him -- whether it's his awful response during the pandemic, obnoxious Yank attitude, etc
Basically either Trump has good judgment or he doesn't. Since he endorsed and helped get the vaccines out, if people truly believe the vaccines are harmful, why does he get a pass? People are not being consistent. It's the same way people go after Fauci, but give their governors a pass when their governors gave the order.

It's weird.
I do not think he has good judgment at all. Bolton? His son-in-law? Romney? Lindsay Graham?

I do not believe the vaccines are harmful, though. I just think they are/were unnecessary for many, overblown by propaganda on both their efficacy and need, actual science was shut down for hysteria (or greed) and Trump just promoted everything that he thought might help deal w/ the pandemic and get people back to work (whether these vaccines he Warp Speeded, HCQ or anything).

If they are harmful, it's fairly negligible ways or seems to be specific lots of them that are more likely to cause a stroke.
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Originally Posted By Banderistan⏩
1) Vaccines are a WEF deep state Soros/Gates conspiracy with Pfizer, etc.

2) Trump is against the WEF Globalist deep state shills.

Because Trump helped get out the vaccines and recommended everyone take them. So how do you square that with him being against those people?

Either he's compromised or he isn't.
Don't know how true this is, but like everything else, CTers are batting 1.000 over the last three years...the lockdown was supposed to last 10 years and gradually unwind as the vaxxx rolled out. By announcing that the vaxxx was already in the works, it forced pharma companies to issue millions of saline shots. Trump probably saved a few million's lives at the very least.
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Virus is running amok and democrat governors are destroying the economy by closing down entire states. What other solution than a cure would there be to returning to normal life? You are painting this in a way to frame someone poorly in hindsight, but what would your solution be to re-open the country?
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Originally Posted By jamalfudge⏩
don't know how true this is, but like everything else, cters are batting 1.000 over the last three years...the lockdown was supposed to last 10 years and gradually unwind as the vaxxx rolled out. By announcing that the vaxxx was already in the works, it forced pharma companies to issue millions of saline shots. Trump probably saved a few million's lives at the very least.
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Originally Posted By jimbone21⏩
Virus is running amok and democrat governors are destroying the economy by closing down entire states. What other solution than a cure would there be to returning to normal life? You are painting this in a way to frame someone poorly in hindsight, but what would your solution be to re-open the country?
I'd have done the exact same as him, and I think it was a fantastic decision. What I am highlighting is the inconsistency of the people here.
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Originally Posted By JUSA⏩
No on this, no. Even at his own rallies he gets luke warm responses, if not outright Boo'ed.

Me, I'm like you on some issues - I weigh the good and the bad. For me, his Foreign Policy is enough to hold my nose and vote for him -- whether it's his awful response during the pandemic, obnoxious Yank attitude, etc

I do not think he has good judgment at all. Bolton? His son-in-law? Romney? Lindsay Graham?

I do not believe the vaccines are harmful, though. I just think they are/were unnecessary for many, overblown by propaganda on both their efficacy and need, actual science was shut down for hysteria (or greed) and Trump just promoted everything that he thought might help deal w/ the pandemic and get people back to work (whether these vaccines he Warp Speeded, HCQ or anything).

If they are harmful, it's fairly negligible ways or seems to be specific lots of them that are more likely to cause a stroke.
But if we agree his judgment is poor, how can we expect him to do anything right? He might find a way to make the situation even worse.
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Originally Posted By Banderistan⏩
But if we agree his judgment is poor, how can we expect him to do anything right? He might find a way to make the situation even worse.
Indeed.

However, that must be weighed against Biden (or whoever): Who we know for a fact will 100% make things worse.

Trump's instincts at least are generally decent when it comes to foreign policy and he's shown he's willing to call it out. He might actually do good. He might not - but the alternative is a 100% given of a bad outcome.

I would not vote for Trump and assume he is going to fix anything. He probably won't, to be honest.. but a 15% chance of success is greater than 0%
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Originally Posted By JUSA⏩
Indeed.

However, that must be weighed against Biden (or whoever): Who we know for a fact will 100% make things worse.

Trump's instincts at least are generally decent when it comes to foreign policy and he's shown he's willing to call it out. He might actually do good. He might not - but the alternative is a 100% given of a bad outcome.

I would not vote for Trump and assume he is going to fix anything. He probably won't, to be honest.. but a 15% chance of success is greater than 0%
Trump has been very vocal against China though. He isn't some peacenik. He only wants to restore relations with Russia so he can "engage" China. If we have two warmongering lunatics who want to pick fights with world powers, it's better we pick a fight with the weaker one, which is currently Russia. I'd like to see Trump soften his rhetoric on China. But he spent so much of his time demonizing them that he can't do that.
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Originally Posted By Banderistan⏩
Trump has been very vocal against China though. He isn't some peacenik. He only wants to restore relations with Russia so he can "engage" China. If we have two warmongering lunatics who want to pick fights with world powers, it's better we pick a fight with the weaker one, which is currently Russia. I'd like to see Trump soften his rhetoric on China.
I've listened to his China rhetoric, it's not war drums he's beating but a decoupling and semblance of equity when it comes to trade. While no expert on the exacts of the trade deals - it really looks unbalanced and unfair, something I fully expect from our whore political leaders who would happily sell their constituents to *any* interest, whether it's China, the MIC, big pharm, large corporate farms or anyone with $$ to bribe.

If he was calling out China and demanding war, then fuk him, but he's just negotiating deals, which is what he is good at.

This is a guy willing to talk and deal with North Korea, for fuk's sake. He's not looking for wars to fight.
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Originally Posted By Banderistan⏩
But does that change anything? You guys still support him. If you think there was a conspiracy, he's part of it.
You can disagree with a political figure on some things and still support them...
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Originally Posted By Cchrisrun⏩
You can disagree with a political figure on some things and still support them...
He's suggesting that somehow *if* the vaccine was an evil plot designed to hurt or enslave people (I don't know, people do have some hard theories) and that if Trump is part of that plan: why or how can anyone support him?

Hard CTers don't, though. Trumpers on the other hand, there is some cognitive dissonance on this, but they also see a bigger picture and let this slide.
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Originally Posted By Banderistan⏩
1) Vaccines are a WEF deep state Soros/Gates conspiracy with Pfizer, etc.

2) Trump is against the WEF Globalist deep state shills.

Because Trump helped get out the vaccines and recommended everyone take them. So how do you square that with him being against those people?

Either he's compromised or he isn't.
While these two things can't both be true at the same time, but both can be, and are, false.
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Originally Posted By JUSA⏩
I've listened to his China rhetoric, it's not war drums he's beating but a decoupling and semblance of equity when it comes to trade. While no expert on the exacts of the trade deals - it really looks unbalanced and unfair, something I fully expect from our whore political leaders who would happily sell their constituents to *any* interest, whether it's China, the MIC, big pharm, large corporate farms or anyone with $$ to bribe.

If he was calling out China and demanding war, then fuk him, but he's just negotiating deals, which is what he is good at.

This is a guy willing to talk and deal with North Korea, for fuk's sake. He's not looking for wars to fight.
They accused China of genocide. We'll see what happens in the debates and how his rhetoric evolves.
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All OP proved is the Trump phenomenon isn't a cult.

People disagree with him on many things. We aren't a monolith like the leftie nutjobs... people just want war to stop and leaders to put their nation first.

Trump believed the vaccine was the answer. I disagree. Doesnt invalidate his other stances.
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Originally Posted By Darkhare⏩
All OP proved is the Trump phenomenon isn't a cult.

People disagree with him on many things. We aren't a monolith like the leftie nutjobs... people just want war to stop and leaders to put their nation first.

Trump believed the vaccine was the answer. I disagree. Doesnt invalidate his other stances.
But if you truly believe the vaccines are an evil conspiracy, then Trump is in on it.
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Originally Posted By Banderistan⏩
But if you truly believe the vaccines are an evil conspiracy, then Trump is in on it.
Everyone doesn't think the same thing..

I think they're dangerous out of stupidity not intentionally.

The pharma companies saw a way to make big money exploiting their connections and they did
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Therein lies the contradiction, OP. The vaccine is a WEF/Soros initiative with some evil ulterior motive....


...But Trump supports and distributes the vaccine.



It's similar to this:

1. Bodhy is a pathological liar.

2. Oh,but Bodhy is telling the truth about chit smearing, tranny fukking, and shoplifting.


I've been calling them out on this the last few days too. Basically, it's that they don't care whether or not they're a hypocritical, contradictory mess. As long as they can be angry at a leftist.
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Originally Posted By Bodhy⏩
1. Bodhy is a pathological liar.

2. Oh,but Bodhy is telling the truth about chit smearing, tranny fukking, and shoplifting.
Or

1. Bodhy is a highly insecure person who pathologically lies to inflate himself.

2. When Bodhy entertains with stories of smearing chit, shoplifting and his interest in getting pegged: as these stories do not particularly inflate his worth it is safe to assume they are true. However, when Bodhy lies about a PHD, being in a relationship with a tinder slut, beating men nearly to death with his BJJ, bouncing at bars, these (sophomoric and ridiculous) stories are his silly attempts to inflate his worth and are the backbone of his earned reputation as a lying fraud.

I think my version is a far better representation of how things are.

Btw Bodhy, as I am a fair man (even to you) I did not insert your stories about how to hook up withvery youngboys dressed as girls in Thailand, as that could go either way. I say this because the thread existed in a pretty sick fuk misc thread about Thailand that took a very dark turn with a lot of aggrandizing from posters about ladyboys - so this might actually have been another lie on your part, with you stupidly thinking it would improve your image.
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Wut? The Giga-Simp is still doing this "young boys" nonsense even though he couldn't address at all the fact he previously admitted this was false and made-up, and had to recant and apologize for it?


What a maggot.


And besides, LogicalLifts got multiple photos of my academic transcripts. I also got notification the other day that my abstract was accepted to a conference in Denmark later in the year, so that's another boogeyman down in flames.


Nor was the beating a smaller dude up in a bar fight even backed up with any evidence for the claim it was a lie. You did literally nothing except fling an accusation that it was lie. And even then, that was not to told to inflate myself since it was in a thread about things we weren't proud of, and the whole point of posting it was to show that it was a stupid and dangerous thing to do.


I'm actually through dealing with you fuks on here. You do not care at all how much of a hypocritical and contradictory intellectually dishonest mess you are, as long as you can rage at a leftist.
Back off, Warchild.

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