I've been watching Strange New Worlds, and it reminded me of a position I have that I generally self censor on, but it's really kind of obvious. We absolutely should be pursuing eugenics programs, and it's unethical af to not do so.

What the nazis did was pursue false racial eugenics and fabricate reasons to deem themselves superior. And it sucked ass. But as a result of their warmongering lunacy, people have collectively rejected all forms of eugenics. We absolutely should be harvesting the eggs and sperm of every exceptionally brilliant person. That Von Neumann's sperm wasn't used to make thousands of potential kids is a travesty. Sure, you would eventually have to worry about possible inbreeding effects, but I do genuinely think we should be trying to bioengineer and select for smarter people. The potential benefit to human civilization far outweighs the risk.

While intelligence isn't purely heritable or genetic, we should be selecting those aspects that are. It can mean the difference between life and death for our species in the future. It needs to be done in a balanced way where we are mindful of not creating monocultures, just like when we use GMO crops but try to be careful to make sure there is enough variation so existence isn't threatened.

There is a right and a wrong way to do eugenics. I don't expect people to warm up to the idea now, but eventually, humanity will need to pursue this. But like I said, we need to be careful to maintain diversity and be confident to know the effects of the selection. The science probably isn't quite there yet, but perhaps someday.

Won't this slowly happen over time as intelligence will have a higher percentage chance of wealth (not always) - women will be attracted to actually breeding and producing offspring with the wealth (not just the hookups)- and we will slowly natural increase intelligence / intelligence with ambition


Pryor millenniums braun begot wealth - now brain is more likely to

You'd think so, but people are breeding for other unrelated things like height or status. There seems to be a stabilizing selection at play for intelligence. Many of the most brilliant men in history died without having kids. For both women and men, being a normie is more likely to help you spawn than being at the extreme end of either side.

It's important we preserve and try to replicate that which makes humans geniuses simply because of how it only takes a few of these people to radically change the course of history and find solutions to problems we wouldn't think solvable.

Intelligence is only partially genetically determined and also partially heritable. You find things like fame and fortune, while often not strictly genetic, end up being emergently far more heritable so it makes sense for those people to become prime breeding targets.

Great movie. I wouldn't propose eugenics be done that way.

I think for those groups you can simply offer free vasectomies for Young males 17 and over- offer a cash bonus if they get one.- make it voluntary, but still have impact.

Basically, anyone in a poverty neighborhood.

Or bellow 1200 SAT

I disagree with the Mexicans if they are producers- they just need a controlled entry and exit secure immigration system

I like the idea of increasing the means by which we foster and celebrate intelligence, but how can you have any theory of eugenics without a genocentric theory of biology?


You know my ardent stance against genocentric theories of biology, so I might have to disagree here.

This is the wrong way to do eugenics and why it gets a bad rap.

It's only partially genetic, but we should be selecting for those components that are genetic.

Lee Kuan Yew did something like this. IMO it is still the wrong way to do it. I'd rather encourage the good. Don't care much for punishing what is viewed as bad. These negative eugenics policies end up being abused politically, Implicit in the assumption for these negative policies is the idea that the world is somehow just and that poor people are poor because they deserve it, that the SAT is unbiased, etc.

And when the majority of geniuses are White and Asian the program will be scrapped. Nice try, pussy

Wincel, you would not exist in that case. And If it was implemented today you would be euthanized in the first round. Same goes for Fraudhy and most liberals and pretend leftists in the West. You are the very things that selective breeding and eugenicist designs seek to erase from the genetic pool and from society.

That's irrelevant as this is based on genius individuals and not races collectively.

It would be voluntary.

To get things right it's gonna have to be a little ugly and some people are going to be left out/ not like it

Thats just how things work.

Nowhere in my post did I advocate for euthanization of any kind, but I am amending that to volunteer you for the list. Maybe learn to read.

I mean we don't need to euthanize or discourage anyone from reproducing. I am simply saying we need to be trying to use the genes of geniuses to further humanity. We don't need to impose any penalties on people for not being geniuses.

I don't think you're gonna move the needle very much if you don't

There's a billion and a half on the continent of Africa. Add on all the trannies because they don't even know what gender they are so can't reproduce and who the **** would want to reproduce with someone like that. Fill to the brim with Antifa due to ugliness and smell and were good to go

It could still move it a lot. Even a pool of a few thousand could produce some really amazing people.

The goal isn't to change the population average substantially. The goal is to produce more geniuses.

In a society that begins selective breeding and goes down the path of eugenics someone like you with semi-retarded intelligence, no physical strentgh or capabilities. and extreme mentally illness would be terminated at birth or as soon as it was determined you were unfit for society. You would never exist in the first place if the eugenics were implemented in a very strict manner.

I read exactly what you wrote, but as usual you are too stupid to understand what it is you think you know about. You are the very thing selective breeding seeks to eliminate.

Along with intelligence, we would need ambition, drive and confidence.

On these programs, you might not be far off with how they would actually end.

TY for this incredibly intelligent analysis. Prime candidate for breeding here.

Again, read the post. None of this is about denying anyone the ability to reproduce.

Perhaps I should reevaluate my stance on euthanization as this thread has produced strong candidates.

I did. You don't understand what you are talking about.

Ok thanks for that. Back to ignore with you.

Keep it voluntary for a fictitious moral high ground win.


Offer anyone over 35 that's bellow 30lk a year income a 150k payment to their family, if they choose to be euthanized.

Same for anyone who can't complete some minimum standard of testing.

Voluntary only of course

Eugenics is the basic idea behind the transhumanist technocratic elite agenda. It is alive and well you just don't really hear about it because you are a worthless subhuman who never made it to billionaire status. The goal is for them to keep taking private jets and eating steaks because they deserve it while people like you and me live on fake meat made of bugs and live in 15 minute cities.

One issue with the smooth brains here is you think I'm talking about changing population traits substantially. I am not. I simply want to select for more geniuses and breed them to save humanity. This isn't about changing the average. It's about adding to the tail end.

Take your nazism and hitlerite bs elsewhere please. Thanks.

Thankfully you can't breed so the world is safe from another basement tranny