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Fauci's NIH Advisor Used Personal Gmail to Evade FOIA - Covid Origins
Why was the NIH so desperate to evade any sense of transparency to the general public? Didn't previously learn that Jeremy Farrar in UK wrote about wanting to use burner phones while discussing origins of Covid-19?

https://www.documentcloud.org/docume...mails_redacted
https://theintercept.com/2023/06/29/...al-email-foia/
Also, another article from The Intercept:

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https://theintercept.com/2023/06/30/...in-nih-emails/

A TOP ADVISER to Anthony Fauci at the National Institutes of Health admitted that he used a personal email account in an apparent effort to evade the strictures of the Freedom of Information Act, according to records obtained by congressional investigators probing the origin of Covid-19. The official also expressed his intention to delete emails in order to avoid media scrutiny.
“As you know, I try to always communicate on gmail because my NIH email is FOIA’d constantly,” wrote David M. Morens, a high-ranking NIH official, in a September 2021 email, one of a series of email exchanges that included many leading scientists involved in the bitter Covid origins debate. “Stuff sent to my gmail gets to my phone,” he added, “but not my NIH computer.”
After noting that his Gmail account had been hacked, however, he wrote to the group to say that he might have to use his NIH email account to communicate with them instead. “Don’t worry,” he wrote, “just send to any of my addresses, and I will delete anything I don’t want to see in the New York Times.”
Morens is a 25-year veteran of NIH who serves as a senior scientific adviser to the director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases, a position held by Fauci until his retirement late last year. Other scientists on the email exchanges include Peter Daszak of EcoHealth Alliance; Robert Garry of Tulane University; Edward Holmes of the University of Sydney in Australia; Kristian Andersen of Scripps Research; and Angela Rasmussen, who works at the Vaccine and Infectious Disease Organization in Canada. They have all been outspoken proponents of the natural origin theory of Covid’s emergence. Jason Gale, a journalist at Bloomberg, also participated in the email exchanges, which were first obtained by investigators from the Republican-led Select Subcommittee on the Coronavirus Pandemic.
The email Morens wrote concerning FOIA, which was sent from his Gmail account, contradicted a footer under his signature line: “IMPORTANT: For US-government related email,” it said, “please also reply to my NIAID address.” Morens did not immediately respond to a request for comment.
Scott Amey, the general counsel at the nonpartisan Project on Government Oversight, said the conduct described in Morens’s email could potentially violate agency regulations, including the Department of Health and Human Services’s email records management policy, and potentially civil and criminal record retention laws.
“His comments in that email are certainly worth an investigation by the agency, the agency inspector general, the National Archives and Records Administration, and the Department of Justice,” said Amey.
The email that contains Morens’s statements was part of a broader exchange in which Morens and his scientist correspondents denounced media coverage by The Intercept and other publications concerning the origins of Covid and harshly criticized those who take seriously the possibility that the virus emerged from a research accident in Wuhan, China. They also laid out their own arguments in favor of a natural origin for the virus.
“The lab leakers are already stirring up bull**** lines of attack that will bring more negative publicity our way — which is what this is about — a way to line up the [gain-of-function] attack on Fauci, or the ‘risky research’ attack on all of us,” wrote Daszak in one email on September 7.
“Do not rule out suing these *******s for slander,” wrote Morens in response.
In a separate email, Morens slammed scientists such as Richard Ebright of Rutgers University, calling them “harmful demagogues.” He also lamented the media’s platforming of such figures.
“They need to be called out. Because I am in government I can only fo [sic] this off the record, but I have done do [sic] again and again,” he wrote. “Some of them are knowingly promoting false equivalences [sic]. If they interviewed a Holocaust survivor, they would say they have to give equal time and space to a Nazi murderer. They have no shame.”
On Thursday, Rep. Brad Wenstrup, R-Ohio, the chair of the Select Subcommittee on the Coronavirus Pandemic, sent a letter to Morens about the documents the subcommittee obtained.
Documents in the possession of the subcommittee, he wrote, “suggest that you may have used your personal e-mail to avoid transparency and the Freedom of Information Act (FOIA), potentially intentionally deleted federal records, and acted in your official capacity to disparage your fellow scientists, including by encouraging litigation against them.”
The committee also highlighted a July 2021 email sent by Morens in which he described getting approval from “Tony” — an apparent reference to Fauci — to give an interview to National Geographic about the origin of Covid.
“For many months, I have not been approved to talk about ‘origins’ on the record. But today, to my total surprise, my boss Tony actually ASKED me to speak to the National Geographic on the record about origins,” Morens wrote at the time. “I interpret this to mean that our government is lightening up but that Tony doesn’t want his fingerprints on origin stories.”
The committee in its letter said that this email raises “concerns that you may have knowledge or information suggesting Dr. Anthony Fauci … wished to influence the COVID-19 origins narrative without his ‘fingerprints.’”
“This is all very troubling,” wrote Wenstrup in his letter to Morens, “and raises serious questions.” The select subcommittee has asked Morens to produce a variety of additional records, including from his personal email account, and to sit for an interview.
Ethics experts consulted by The Intercept also expressed concern about Morens’s comments on FOIA compliance.
“When you evade laws that are meant to make government more transparent and accountable, that is very bad,” said Delaney Marsco, the senior legal counsel for ethics at the nonpartisan Campaign Legal Center. “It is bad for public trust in government. It is bad for agency culture. The ethical implications are bad.”
You can read the full set of documents here:“As you know, I try to always communicate on gmail because my NIH email is FOIA’d constantly,” wrote David M. Morens, a high-ranking NIH official, in a September 2021 email, one of a series of email exchanges that included many leading scientists involved in the bitter Covid origins debate. “Stuff sent to my gmail gets to my phone,” he added, “but not my NIH computer.”
After noting that his Gmail account had been hacked, however, he wrote to the group to say that he might have to use his NIH email account to communicate with them instead. “Don’t worry,” he wrote, “just send to any of my addresses, and I will delete anything I don’t want to see in the New York Times.”
Morens is a 25-year veteran of NIH who serves as a senior scientific adviser to the director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases, a position held by Fauci until his retirement late last year. Other scientists on the email exchanges include Peter Daszak of EcoHealth Alliance; Robert Garry of Tulane University; Edward Holmes of the University of Sydney in Australia; Kristian Andersen of Scripps Research; and Angela Rasmussen, who works at the Vaccine and Infectious Disease Organization in Canada. They have all been outspoken proponents of the natural origin theory of Covid’s emergence. Jason Gale, a journalist at Bloomberg, also participated in the email exchanges, which were first obtained by investigators from the Republican-led Select Subcommittee on the Coronavirus Pandemic.
The email Morens wrote concerning FOIA, which was sent from his Gmail account, contradicted a footer under his signature line: “IMPORTANT: For US-government related email,” it said, “please also reply to my NIAID address.” Morens did not immediately respond to a request for comment.
Scott Amey, the general counsel at the nonpartisan Project on Government Oversight, said the conduct described in Morens’s email could potentially violate agency regulations, including the Department of Health and Human Services’s email records management policy, and potentially civil and criminal record retention laws.
“His comments in that email are certainly worth an investigation by the agency, the agency inspector general, the National Archives and Records Administration, and the Department of Justice,” said Amey.
The email that contains Morens’s statements was part of a broader exchange in which Morens and his scientist correspondents denounced media coverage by The Intercept and other publications concerning the origins of Covid and harshly criticized those who take seriously the possibility that the virus emerged from a research accident in Wuhan, China. They also laid out their own arguments in favor of a natural origin for the virus.
“The lab leakers are already stirring up bull**** lines of attack that will bring more negative publicity our way — which is what this is about — a way to line up the [gain-of-function] attack on Fauci, or the ‘risky research’ attack on all of us,” wrote Daszak in one email on September 7.
“Do not rule out suing these *******s for slander,” wrote Morens in response.
In a separate email, Morens slammed scientists such as Richard Ebright of Rutgers University, calling them “harmful demagogues.” He also lamented the media’s platforming of such figures.
“They need to be called out. Because I am in government I can only fo [sic] this off the record, but I have done do [sic] again and again,” he wrote. “Some of them are knowingly promoting false equivalences [sic]. If they interviewed a Holocaust survivor, they would say they have to give equal time and space to a Nazi murderer. They have no shame.”
On Thursday, Rep. Brad Wenstrup, R-Ohio, the chair of the Select Subcommittee on the Coronavirus Pandemic, sent a letter to Morens about the documents the subcommittee obtained.
Documents in the possession of the subcommittee, he wrote, “suggest that you may have used your personal e-mail to avoid transparency and the Freedom of Information Act (FOIA), potentially intentionally deleted federal records, and acted in your official capacity to disparage your fellow scientists, including by encouraging litigation against them.”
The committee also highlighted a July 2021 email sent by Morens in which he described getting approval from “Tony” — an apparent reference to Fauci — to give an interview to National Geographic about the origin of Covid.
“For many months, I have not been approved to talk about ‘origins’ on the record. But today, to my total surprise, my boss Tony actually ASKED me to speak to the National Geographic on the record about origins,” Morens wrote at the time. “I interpret this to mean that our government is lightening up but that Tony doesn’t want his fingerprints on origin stories.”
The committee in its letter said that this email raises “concerns that you may have knowledge or information suggesting Dr. Anthony Fauci … wished to influence the COVID-19 origins narrative without his ‘fingerprints.’”
“This is all very troubling,” wrote Wenstrup in his letter to Morens, “and raises serious questions.” The select subcommittee has asked Morens to produce a variety of additional records, including from his personal email account, and to sit for an interview.
Ethics experts consulted by The Intercept also expressed concern about Morens’s comments on FOIA compliance.
“When you evade laws that are meant to make government more transparent and accountable, that is very bad,” said Delaney Marsco, the senior legal counsel for ethics at the nonpartisan Campaign Legal Center. “It is bad for public trust in government. It is bad for agency culture. The ethical implications are bad.”
https://www.documentcloud.org/docume...mails_redacted
https://theintercept.com/2023/06/29/...al-email-foia/
Also, another article from The Intercept:

Read the full article here:
https://theintercept.com/2023/06/30/...in-nih-emails/
07-01-2023, 09:00 PM
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Just FYI, this does absolutely nothing to advance the lab leak theory over natural origins.
Because of two reasons. First, is that Fauci wanting a narrative is not a scientific argument. It is an argument that Fauci wanted a narrative. And why might he have wanted that narrative? Because all the clues were in place a pandemic was coming and scientists were warning of it.
Second, there is a solid case from molecular biology for natural origin which supercedes a "but his emails!" .
This evidence is something neither the non-lifting fraud or his minions understand.
Because of two reasons. First, is that Fauci wanting a narrative is not a scientific argument. It is an argument that Fauci wanted a narrative. And why might he have wanted that narrative? Because all the clues were in place a pandemic was coming and scientists were warning of it.
Second, there is a solid case from molecular biology for natural origin which supercedes a "but his emails!" .
This evidence is something neither the non-lifting fraud or his minions understand.
Back off, Warchild.
Seriously.
07-01-2023, 09:13 PM
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Originally Posted By Bodhy⏩
Holy ****, I never realised you were a stooge for this bull****!Just FYI, this does absolutely nothing to advance the lab leak theory over natural origins.
Because of two reasons. First, is that Fauci wanting a narrative is not a scientific argument. It is an argument that Fauci wanted a narrative. And why might he have wanted that narrative? Because all the clues were in place a pandemic was coming and scientists were warning of it.
Second, there is a solid case from molecular biology for natural origin which supercedes a "but his emails!" .
This evidence is something neither the non-lifting fraud or his minions understand.
Because of two reasons. First, is that Fauci wanting a narrative is not a scientific argument. It is an argument that Fauci wanted a narrative. And why might he have wanted that narrative? Because all the clues were in place a pandemic was coming and scientists were warning of it.
Second, there is a solid case from molecular biology for natural origin which supercedes a "but his emails!" .
This evidence is something neither the non-lifting fraud or his minions understand.
07-01-2023, 10:02 PM
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Originally Posted By Bodhy⏩
lmfaoJust FYI, this does absolutely nothing to advance the lab leak theory over natural origins.
Because of two reasons. First, is that Fauci wanting a narrative is not a scientific argument. It is an argument that Fauci wanted a narrative. And why might he have wanted that narrative? Because all the clues were in place a pandemic was coming and scientists were warning of it.
Second, there is a solid case from molecular biology for natural origin which supercedes a "but his emails!" .
This evidence is something neither the non-lifting fraud or his minions understand.
Because of two reasons. First, is that Fauci wanting a narrative is not a scientific argument. It is an argument that Fauci wanted a narrative. And why might he have wanted that narrative? Because all the clues were in place a pandemic was coming and scientists were warning of it.
Second, there is a solid case from molecular biology for natural origin which supercedes a "but his emails!" .
This evidence is something neither the non-lifting fraud or his minions understand.
Deliberate attempts to circumvent FOIA regulations by using a personal email address is a nothingburger, right?
You leftard asswholes already set that precedent with Hillary I suppose
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Originally Posted By Bodhy⏩
Bruh we already found out the lead researcher at the lab doing testing for coronaviruses with gain of function research which mimics what Covid is and already backs up preexisting arguments directly relating to the structure of Covid and how it’s designed for gain of function in humans which is not of natural origin from something of other species.Just FYI, this does absolutely nothing to advance the lab leak theory over natural origins.
Because of two reasons. First, is that Fauci wanting a narrative is not a scientific argument. It is an argument that Fauci wanted a narrative. And why might he have wanted that narrative? Because all the clues were in place a pandemic was coming and scientists were warning of it.
Second, there is a solid case from molecular biology for natural origin which supercedes a "but his emails!" .
This evidence is something neither the non-lifting fraud or his minions understand.
Because of two reasons. First, is that Fauci wanting a narrative is not a scientific argument. It is an argument that Fauci wanted a narrative. And why might he have wanted that narrative? Because all the clues were in place a pandemic was coming and scientists were warning of it.
Second, there is a solid case from molecular biology for natural origin which supercedes a "but his emails!" .
This evidence is something neither the non-lifting fraud or his minions understand.
anyways after all that we get to the point the lead fukking hands on guy is tagged as Covid case zero, the original infection….
And fukking dumbass bodhy over “but guys theoretically it could be probable that…”
Jesus fuk you retard do you even realize how fukking stupid you look yet?
Wish your country never let you out of the chit prison so you had time to reflect.
07-02-2023, 12:37 AM
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Originally Posted By Duckliver⏩
Pseudo-intellectual fake science bullchit from the chit smearer has been a hallmark of xer tenure here, and despite all the evidence to the contrary, the evidence is not scientific - it's apparently an argument based on semanticsBruh we already found out the lead researcher at the lab doing testing for coronaviruses with gain of function research which mimics what Covid is and already backs up preexisting arguments directly relating to the structure of Covid and how it’s designed for gain of function in humans which is not of natural origin from something of other species.
anyways after all that we get to the point the lead fukking hands on guy is tagged as Covid case zero, the original infection….
And fukking dumbass bodhy over “but guys theoretically it could be probable that…”
Jesus fuk you retard do you even realize how fukking stupid you look yet?
Wish your country never let you out of the chit prison so you had time to reflect.
anyways after all that we get to the point the lead fukking hands on guy is tagged as Covid case zero, the original infection….
And fukking dumbass bodhy over “but guys theoretically it could be probable that…”
Jesus fuk you retard do you even realize how fukking stupid you look yet?
Wish your country never let you out of the chit prison so you had time to reflect.
lmfao
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07-02-2023, 04:00 AM
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Originally Posted By Kewbrah⏩
He, JLC, and wincel.. biggest pseudo-wannabe intellectuals on the misc, and also the biggest covid defenders.Holy ****, I never realised you were a stooge for this bull****!
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Originally Posted By Putinist⏩
Although I think typing "Yawn" on the internet means you're either Garfield or 60 years old, pretty much, yeah.yawn
Same old demonization of gain of function research which the non-lifting fraud and his minions don't understand. They think it's this evil thing meant to kill people but it's a very necessary part of virology, and more to the point, it's an everyday thing!
The risk is already there since the virus can do its thing in nature anyway. If you're not using modifications that couldn't happen in nature, you aren't really doing research with a point. If we learn and understand the biology of the virus, we can react much better in an outbreak.
Covid is a great example, actually. We had vaccines because of how much we research coronaviruses and how to synthesize and modify them.
GOF is also useful to make delivery vehicles for new treatments too. Like viral delivery of genes for genetic therapy and if we engineer far more efficient viruses to do this, we've made a virus do very good work.
Why do we constantly have to school these scientifically illiterate fuks on....everything?
Back off, Warchild.
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Originally Posted By Bodhy⏩
You don't dumbfuk, so stop flattering yourself.Although I think typing "Yawn" on the internet means you're either Garfield or 60 years old, pretty much, yeah.
Same old demonization of gain of function research which the non-lifting fraud and his minions don't understand. They think it's this evil thing meant to kill people but it's a very necessary part of virology, and more to the point, it's an everyday thing!
The risk is already there since the virus can do its thing in nature anyway. If you're not using modifications that couldn't happen in nature, you aren't really doing research with a point. If we learn and understand the biology of the virus, we can react much better in an outbreak.
Covid is a great example, actually. We had vaccines because of how much we research coronaviruses and how to synthesize and modify them.
GOF is also useful to make delivery vehicles for new treatments too. Like viral delivery of genes for genetic therapy and if we engineer far more efficient viruses to do this, we've made a virus do very good work.
Why do we constantly have to school these scientifically illiterate fuks on....everything?
Same old demonization of gain of function research which the non-lifting fraud and his minions don't understand. They think it's this evil thing meant to kill people but it's a very necessary part of virology, and more to the point, it's an everyday thing!
The risk is already there since the virus can do its thing in nature anyway. If you're not using modifications that couldn't happen in nature, you aren't really doing research with a point. If we learn and understand the biology of the virus, we can react much better in an outbreak.
Covid is a great example, actually. We had vaccines because of how much we research coronaviruses and how to synthesize and modify them.
GOF is also useful to make delivery vehicles for new treatments too. Like viral delivery of genes for genetic therapy and if we engineer far more efficient viruses to do this, we've made a virus do very good work.
Why do we constantly have to school these scientifically illiterate fuks on....everything?
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07-03-2023, 05:03 AM
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Post #3 is a paid shill.
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Can’t believe so many vaxcels trust this man. He himself has never taken the vax! Trust him with your health/life. Smfh at humanity.
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