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07-02-2023, 06:32 PM
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Russia vs Ukraine Thread IV: A Civil War, oops wrong Country
https://usafacts.org/articles/how-mu...sias-invasion/
Part 1.
https://forum.obnoxiousbrutes.com/showt...hp?t=181096593
Part 2.
https://forum.obnoxiousbrutes.com/showt...03&pagenumber=
Part 3.
https://forum.obnoxiousbrutes.com/showt...1210483&page=1
Part 4.
https://forum.obnoxiousbrutes.com/showt...1347783&page=1
Part 5.
https://forum.obnoxiousbrutes.com/showt...hp?t=181690903
Part 6.
https://forum.obnoxiousbrutes.com/showt...post1669322093
Part 7.
https://forum.obnoxiousbrutes.com/showt...2103403&page=1
Part 8.
https://forum.obnoxiousbrutes.com/showt...hp?t=183200853
Part 1.
https://forum.obnoxiousbrutes.com/showt...hp?t=181096593
Part 2.
https://forum.obnoxiousbrutes.com/showt...03&pagenumber=
Part 3.
https://forum.obnoxiousbrutes.com/showt...1210483&page=1
Part 4.
https://forum.obnoxiousbrutes.com/showt...1347783&page=1
Part 5.
https://forum.obnoxiousbrutes.com/showt...hp?t=181690903
Part 6.
https://forum.obnoxiousbrutes.com/showt...post1669322093
Part 7.
https://forum.obnoxiousbrutes.com/showt...2103403&page=1
Part 8.
https://forum.obnoxiousbrutes.com/showt...hp?t=183200853
07-02-2023, 06:36 PM
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The Armed Forces of Ukraine announced the unsuitability of the French AMX-10 tanks for attacks, Western media report.
According to the Major of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, when a Russian 152 mm shell exploded next to the tank, the fragments pierced the thin body of the vehicle through and through. All four crew members were killed in the process.
In addition, the armored vehicle has a very fragile gearbox. It is not designed to work in dirty roads and breaks down quickly, the military said.
According to the Major of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, when a Russian 152 mm shell exploded next to the tank, the fragments pierced the thin body of the vehicle through and through. All four crew members were killed in the process.
In addition, the armored vehicle has a very fragile gearbox. It is not designed to work in dirty roads and breaks down quickly, the military said.
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07-02-2023, 06:46 PM
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Russia Begins Mass-Tank Production
In a press release to the public, Rostec announced that Uralvagonzavod [UVZ] is suspending any other activity that is part of the company’s portfolio.
Multi-thousand tank fleet
"The consolidation of UVZ assets is completely consistent with what BulgarianMilitary.com has been reporting since the beginning of the year. Namely – Russia is preparing to begin the return of the Soviet concept of a multi-thousand tank fleet.
We recall that at the beginning of this year, Mr. Medvedev said that Russia was starting production of 1,600 T-90M Proriv tanks. Back then, BulgarianMilitary.com noted that for this to happen, Uralvagonzavod must work on the production of tanks only. As it is now."
In a press release to the public, Rostec announced that Uralvagonzavod [UVZ] is suspending any other activity that is part of the company’s portfolio.
Multi-thousand tank fleet
"The consolidation of UVZ assets is completely consistent with what BulgarianMilitary.com has been reporting since the beginning of the year. Namely – Russia is preparing to begin the return of the Soviet concept of a multi-thousand tank fleet.
We recall that at the beginning of this year, Mr. Medvedev said that Russia was starting production of 1,600 T-90M Proriv tanks. Back then, BulgarianMilitary.com noted that for this to happen, Uralvagonzavod must work on the production of tanks only. As it is now."
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07-02-2023, 06:46 PM
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07-02-2023, 06:47 PM
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Originally Posted By dabbmw2002⏩
Yea - it's old - just a big money scheme show, no reason to add ratingsThese threads are starting to get tiring. Maybe we should all come back and discuss things when one side wins.
That said - we are at near 80k replies - so there is traffic....
07-02-2023, 07:02 PM
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07-02-2023, 07:06 PM
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Originally Posted By dabbmw2002⏩
I have a close friend that immigrated from there and listening to him talk about how his cousins are still im hiding because literally everyone they know that got conscripted was never heard from again I maybe have a different perspective. For many here this is nothing more than something to troll about, but theres a degree of misery being perpetrated that none of us can really even imagineThese threads are starting to get tiring. Maybe we should all come back and discuss things when one side wins.
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07-02-2023, 07:11 PM
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07-02-2023, 07:13 PM
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Originally Posted By dabbmw2002⏩
Yes sociopaths devoid of empathy.I've been saying that from day one, the people here don't care
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07-02-2023, 07:16 PM
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the politicans that hide in DC that vote and support this war need to have their reckoning.
entire bloodline needs to be sent to frontlines. sons, daughters, grandsons, granddaughters, nephews, nieces etc. if they want to continue this war, continue to waste our tax dollars, they need to have skin in the game.
entire bloodline needs to be sent to frontlines. sons, daughters, grandsons, granddaughters, nephews, nieces etc. if they want to continue this war, continue to waste our tax dollars, they need to have skin in the game.
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07-02-2023, 07:27 PM
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Originally Posted By Mountaineer92⏩
Who's gonna make them do it or hold them accountable? Definitely not the American people. The great thing about democracy is that our leaders never get held accountable for the things they do! A truly wonderful system for the charlatan politicianthe politicans that hide in DC that vote and support this war need to have their reckoning.
entire bloodline needs to be sent to frontlines. sons, daughters, grandsons, granddaughters, nephews, nieces etc. if they want to continue this war, continue to waste our tax dollars, they need to have skin in the game.
entire bloodline needs to be sent to frontlines. sons, daughters, grandsons, granddaughters, nephews, nieces etc. if they want to continue this war, continue to waste our tax dollars, they need to have skin in the game.
07-02-2023, 07:31 PM
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Originally Posted By Mountaineer92⏩
So you support appeasement?the politicans that hide in DC that vote and support this war need to have their reckoning.
entire bloodline needs to be sent to frontlines. sons, daughters, grandsons, granddaughters, nephews, nieces etc. if they want to continue this war, continue to waste our tax dollars, they need to have skin in the game.
entire bloodline needs to be sent to frontlines. sons, daughters, grandsons, granddaughters, nephews, nieces etc. if they want to continue this war, continue to waste our tax dollars, they need to have skin in the game.
I thought people like you died out in 1939 lol
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07-02-2023, 07:33 PM
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Berlin and Warsaw fail to agree on a centre for Leopard, tanks await repair.
On 21 April, at the Ramstein air base in Germany, German Defence Minister Boris Pistorius announced that a repair centre for Leopard battle tanks supplied to Ukraine would open in Poland at the end of May. The German government would have covered the costs of repairing Leopard tanks.
However, two months after the meeting in Ramstein, according to defence industry sources, the German-Polish tank project has not yet made any progress. Instead, Berlin and Warsaw are engaged in irreconcilable disputes over the details of the joint venture's structure.
In industrial circles, it is said that this project is being hampered by Poland. For example, the Polish company PGZ has presented very peculiar ideas about the cost of tank repair work; insiders have spoken of extremely inflated prices. For example, PGZ wanted to charge more than €100,000 for the so-called "initial diagnostic" of tanks. In Germany, such diagnostics usually cost only about €12,000. In addition, PGZ does not want to give any guarantees for repairs, which is also completely unusual.
Several Leopard tanks have already arrived in Poland from Ukraine in need of repair.
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On 21 April, at the Ramstein air base in Germany, German Defence Minister Boris Pistorius announced that a repair centre for Leopard battle tanks supplied to Ukraine would open in Poland at the end of May. The German government would have covered the costs of repairing Leopard tanks.
However, two months after the meeting in Ramstein, according to defence industry sources, the German-Polish tank project has not yet made any progress. Instead, Berlin and Warsaw are engaged in irreconcilable disputes over the details of the joint venture's structure.
In industrial circles, it is said that this project is being hampered by Poland. For example, the Polish company PGZ has presented very peculiar ideas about the cost of tank repair work; insiders have spoken of extremely inflated prices. For example, PGZ wanted to charge more than €100,000 for the so-called "initial diagnostic" of tanks. In Germany, such diagnostics usually cost only about €12,000. In addition, PGZ does not want to give any guarantees for repairs, which is also completely unusual.
Several Leopard tanks have already arrived in Poland from Ukraine in need of repair.
Those sneaky polaks
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07-02-2023, 07:36 PM
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We had like 8 years to denazify Ukraine and did nothing. We did not condemn the unjust slaughter of Ukrainian Russians in Donbass. We did not acknowledge the real fear they had when they saw nazi tiki torch parades, people being burned alive, and streets and statues being renamed after nazi collaborators. We stood silently when unjust laws were passed against the Russian language. And we turned a blind eye as Ukraine rejected every attempt at peace with or proper integration of the ethnically Russian regions. We cheerled fascists and even helped them carry out a coup and slaughter their own people.
This war is a tragedy, but the western media has been lying about it. Ukraine is a failed state, and it is 100% because of intolerant nazis living there.
This war is a tragedy, but the western media has been lying about it. Ukraine is a failed state, and it is 100% because of intolerant nazis living there.
07-02-2023, 07:37 PM
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Originally Posted By Putinist⏩
Who did you vote for in 2020?We had like 8 years to denazify Ukraine and did nothing. We did not condemn the unjust slaughter of Ukrainian Russians in Donbass. We did not acknowledge the real fear they had when they saw nazi tiki torch parades, people being burned alive, and streets and statues being renamed after nazi collaborators. We stood silently when unjust laws were passed against the Russian language. And we turned a blind eye as Ukraine rejected every attempt at peace with or proper integration of the ethnically Russian regions. We cheerleaded fascists and even helped them carry out a coup and slaughter their own people.

07-02-2023, 08:39 PM
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Originally Posted By Mountaineer92⏩
well putthe politicans that hide in DC that vote and support this war need to have their reckoning.
entire bloodline needs to be sent to frontlines. sons, daughters, grandsons, granddaughters, nephews, nieces etc. if they want to continue this war, continue to waste our tax dollars, they need to have skin in the game.
entire bloodline needs to be sent to frontlines. sons, daughters, grandsons, granddaughters, nephews, nieces etc. if they want to continue this war, continue to waste our tax dollars, they need to have skin in the game.
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07-02-2023, 08:40 PM
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Originally Posted By Noliberals4⏩
id be glad to see you die out in 2023 in kyiv if it meant we stopped seeing your chit posts.So you support appeasement?
I thought people like you died out in 1939 lol
I thought people like you died out in 1939 lol
maybe you can share a foxhole with lindsey grahams kids.
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Originally Posted By Mountaineer92⏩
So we are just meant to allow the Ukraine to be invaded? Just like that?id be glad to see you die out in 2023 in kyiv if it meant we stopped seeing your chit posts.
maybe you can share a foxhole with lindsey grahams kids.
maybe you can share a foxhole with lindsey grahams kids.
Russia is the aggressor here. We take a stand now or it gets worse much later. Didn't you learn anything from World War II? Madmen like Hitler and Putin speak only one language, and you ain't speaking it.
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07-02-2023, 08:47 PM
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Originally Posted By Noliberals4⏩
Putin is not like hitler. He also doesn't have the military to attack other countries. He can barely handle Ukraine. The west has ignored all his reasons and pleading for years. We downplay everything and act like it's all fake.So we are just meant to allow the Ukraine to be invaded? Just like that?
Russia is the aggressor here. We take a stand now or it gets worse much later. Didn't you learn anything from World War II? Madmen like Hitler and Putin speak only one language, and you ain't speaking it.
Russia is the aggressor here. We take a stand now or it gets worse much later. Didn't you learn anything from World War II? Madmen like Hitler and Putin speak only one language, and you ain't speaking it.
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Originally Posted By Putinist⏩
I don't think Putin knew that though. He once said if he wanted to take former Soviet Republics back (like the Baltic states, Belarus, and the Ukraine) he could do it in less than a week.Putin is not like hitler. He also doesn't have the military to attack other countries. He can barely handle Ukraine. The west has ignored all his reasons and pleading for years. We downplay everything and act like it's all fake.
Putin had no idea just how deep the corruption in Russia actually was. And now reality has hit him like a nuclear bomb. If Putin knew in February 2022 what he knows now he would have never gotten involved in this war.
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Lmao this thread goes ANOTHER part and Russia still has achieved nothing.
Pathetic.
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Originally Posted By dabbmw2002⏩
I actually agree for the first time ever.These threads are starting to get tiring. Maybe we should all come back and discuss things when one side wins.
It's why my activity in the war thread dropped off. The interesting events in Ukraine really started to asymptote and the actual gains made by the invaders slowed down to incremental.
I'ma wait till there are actual items of interest to discuss again.
Back off, Warchild.
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Originally Posted By Bodhy⏩
Funny, because no one gives a fuk what you thinkI actually agree for the first time ever.
It's why my activity in the war thread dropped off. The interesting events in Ukraine really started to asymptote and the actual gains made by the invaders slowed down to incremental.
I'ma wait till there are actual items of interest to discuss again.
It's why my activity in the war thread dropped off. The interesting events in Ukraine really started to asymptote and the actual gains made by the invaders slowed down to incremental.
I'ma wait till there are actual items of interest to discuss again.

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Not really. His son got cancer, probably from exposure to DU. Its not like he was in combatto be fair, joe bidet sacrificed his own son for one of america's bullshyt wars
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Originally Posted By Mountaineer92⏩
Ok that made me lol. Repped., (Spread)id be glad to see you die out in 2023 in kyiv if it meant we stopped seeing your chit posts.
maybe you can share a foxhole withlindsey grahams kids.
maybe you can share a foxhole withlindsey grahams kids.
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Originally Posted By LargePeter⏩
Exactly. He's the most despised poster i've ever seen here. There are legit like 4 or 5 people at most who don't think he is anything more than a complete retard.Funny, because no one gives a fuk what you think

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You actually know you're onto good arguments and points when the detractors resort to personal attacks and the utterly pathetic "internet friends" argument.
Hated miscers are the most normal ones, and this is actually common knowledge around here.
Hated miscers are the most normal ones, and this is actually common knowledge around here.
Back off, Warchild.
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