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08-02-2023, 12:40 AM
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Trump plans to toss John Eastman&Giuliani under the bus to escape Jan. 6 conviction
08-02-2023, 07:13 AM
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If you still support Trump you deserve everything that is going to happen to you. No sympathy.
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08-02-2023, 07:21 AM
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Originally Posted By Jayarbie⏩
Lol I remember that Four Seasons Landscape press conference. Right next to a porn shop too. Pretty much summed up the incompetence of the Trump Administration."Look, it was my constantly sauced, melty-faced lawyer who thought the Four Seasons landscape company was a five-star hotel who told me this was all OK, so I believed him." LMAO, OK.
Still one of the lulziest parts of that disastrous 4 years (up there with the Mooch getting fired lolololol).
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08-02-2023, 07:39 AM
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08-02-2023, 08:44 AM
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Stopped reading there.....
Stopped reading there.....
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08-02-2023, 09:06 AM
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Originally Posted By Jayarbie⏩
Trump strikes me as particularly susceptible to flattery."Look, it was my constantly sauced, melty-faced lawyer who thought the Four Seasons landscape company was a five-star hotel who told me this was all OK, so I believed him." LMAO, OK.
On Rudy, I've never forgotten (nor forgiven) his arrogant and gross treatment of Ron Paul in 2007 during the debates -- so fuk him on a personal level. As to this business, he acted negligent and in gross ways, him and that Kraken lady, he is also a perverted weird freak when it comes to his personal morality. Not going to shed a tear if he's thrown to the lion's.
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08-02-2023, 09:14 AM
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Originally Posted By JUSA⏩
Rudy was also an open borders, pro-gun control c0cksucker when he was mayor. Literally the only conservative thing about him was cracking down on crime in NYC. He wasn't just advocating his cucked beliefs for NYC either, he was always making the rounds advocating or national gun control measures and going on TV rallying support for the assault weapons ban.Trump strikes me as particularly susceptible to flattery.
On Rudy, I've never forgotten (nor forgiven) his arrogant and gross treatment of Ron Paul in 2007 during the debates -- so fuk him on a personal level. As to this business, he acted negligent and in gross ways, him and that Kraken lady, he is also a perverted weird freak when it comes to his personal morality. Not going to shed a tear if he's thrown to the lion's.
On Rudy, I've never forgotten (nor forgiven) his arrogant and gross treatment of Ron Paul in 2007 during the debates -- so fuk him on a personal level. As to this business, he acted negligent and in gross ways, him and that Kraken lady, he is also a perverted weird freak when it comes to his personal morality. Not going to shed a tear if he's thrown to the lion's.
As far as immigration goes, check out his incredible record on that front:
Giuliani was a strong defender of illegal immigrants' rights as mayor, fighting for them to be allowed to use public services and attend public schools. But he has changed some of his position on the 2007 campaign trail.[94]
As Mayor of New York City, Giuliani encouraged hardworking illegal immigrants to move to New York City.[95] He said:
Some of the hardest-working and most productive people in this city are undocumented aliens. If you come here and you work hard and you happen to be in an undocumented status, you're one of the people who we want in this city. You're somebody that we want to protect, and we want you to get out from under what is often a life of being like a fugitive, which is really unfair.[95]
He pressed for $12 million to start a city agency which would help immigrants gain citizenship. He defended the city's policy of not allowing police and hospital workers to ask about citizenship status.[96]
In 1996, Giuliani said, "Indeed, the whole process of immigration is something the Republican Party should embrace."[97] In the same year, at a public talk at the John F. Kennedy School of Government he said, "We're never, ever going to be able to totally control immigration in a country that is as large as ours." He went on to say, "If you were to totally control immigration into the United States, you might very well destroy the economy of the United States, because you'd have to inspect everything and everyone in every way possible."[98]
Giuliani sued the federal government on October 11, 1996 for what he called unconstitutional provisions against immigrants.[99][100] In announcing his lawsuit he said,
"I believe the anti-immigration movement in America is one of our most serious public problems." He added: "I am speaking out and filing this action because I believe that a threat to immigration can be a threat to the future of our country."[101][102]
Giuliani said that the Immigration and Naturalization Service "do nothing with those names but terrorize people." His lawsuit against the new immigration law claimed that the new federal requirement to report illegal immigrants violated the Tenth Amendment. He said that the law, as well as the Welfare Reform Act, were "inherently unfair."[103] He pursued this lawsuit to the U.S. Supreme Court, but he lost the case.[104] [105]
In 1996 Giuliani voiced his support for New York City's sanctuary city policy saying:
[it] protects undocumented immigrants in New York City from being reported to the INS while they are using city services that are critical for their health and safety, and for the health and safety of the entire city ... There are times when undocumented immigrants must have a substantial degree of protection.[106]
In 1997, Giuliani signed a statement of principles which read, "The new laws recently passed by Congress and signed into law by the President unfairly target immigrants in the United States by severely limiting their access to many federal benefits which citizens are entitled to receive." and "Since legal immigrants work and pay taxes like American citizens, they should be entitled to temporary assistance when they fall into personal difficulty. Furthermore, the denial of federal assistance to legal immigrants in need is patently unfair and arguably unconstitutional and inhumane."[107] In 1998, Giuliani argued for expanding Medicare, SSI and foodstamp benefits to legal immigrants and also, "Providing full Medicaid coverage to Prucol aliens with HIV/AIDS and other chronic illnesses"[108]
As Mayor of New York City, Giuliani encouraged hardworking illegal immigrants to move to New York City.[95] He said:
Some of the hardest-working and most productive people in this city are undocumented aliens. If you come here and you work hard and you happen to be in an undocumented status, you're one of the people who we want in this city. You're somebody that we want to protect, and we want you to get out from under what is often a life of being like a fugitive, which is really unfair.[95]
He pressed for $12 million to start a city agency which would help immigrants gain citizenship. He defended the city's policy of not allowing police and hospital workers to ask about citizenship status.[96]
In 1996, Giuliani said, "Indeed, the whole process of immigration is something the Republican Party should embrace."[97] In the same year, at a public talk at the John F. Kennedy School of Government he said, "We're never, ever going to be able to totally control immigration in a country that is as large as ours." He went on to say, "If you were to totally control immigration into the United States, you might very well destroy the economy of the United States, because you'd have to inspect everything and everyone in every way possible."[98]
Giuliani sued the federal government on October 11, 1996 for what he called unconstitutional provisions against immigrants.[99][100] In announcing his lawsuit he said,
"I believe the anti-immigration movement in America is one of our most serious public problems." He added: "I am speaking out and filing this action because I believe that a threat to immigration can be a threat to the future of our country."[101][102]
Giuliani said that the Immigration and Naturalization Service "do nothing with those names but terrorize people." His lawsuit against the new immigration law claimed that the new federal requirement to report illegal immigrants violated the Tenth Amendment. He said that the law, as well as the Welfare Reform Act, were "inherently unfair."[103] He pursued this lawsuit to the U.S. Supreme Court, but he lost the case.[104] [105]
In 1996 Giuliani voiced his support for New York City's sanctuary city policy saying:
[it] protects undocumented immigrants in New York City from being reported to the INS while they are using city services that are critical for their health and safety, and for the health and safety of the entire city ... There are times when undocumented immigrants must have a substantial degree of protection.[106]
In 1997, Giuliani signed a statement of principles which read, "The new laws recently passed by Congress and signed into law by the President unfairly target immigrants in the United States by severely limiting their access to many federal benefits which citizens are entitled to receive." and "Since legal immigrants work and pay taxes like American citizens, they should be entitled to temporary assistance when they fall into personal difficulty. Furthermore, the denial of federal assistance to legal immigrants in need is patently unfair and arguably unconstitutional and inhumane."[107] In 1998, Giuliani argued for expanding Medicare, SSI and foodstamp benefits to legal immigrants and also, "Providing full Medicaid coverage to Prucol aliens with HIV/AIDS and other chronic illnesses"[108]
08-02-2023, 09:19 AM
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Originally Posted By John
At the time, that was the standard GOP position on immigration. Pre-Trump, immigration policy was about labor. The GOP wanted cheap immigrant labor for their businesses, and Dems wanted strict immigration policies to protect union labor. Trump is the one who flipped that on its head using xenophobic scare tactics.Rudy was also an open borders, pro-gun control c0cksucker when he was mayor. Literally the only conservative thing about him was cracking down on crime in NYC. He wasn't just advocating his cucked beliefs for NYC either, he was always making the rounds advocating or national gun control measures and going on TV rallying support for the assault weapons ban.
As far as immigration goes, check out his incredible record on that front:
As far as immigration goes, check out his incredible record on that front:
08-02-2023, 09:20 AM
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Originally Posted By Jayarbie⏩
They weren't liberal to the extent that Giuliani was, though. Rudy was firmly on the left when it came to immigration.At the time, that was the standard GOP position on immigration. Pre-Trump, immigration policy was about labor. The GOP wanted cheap immigrant labor for their businesses, and Dems wanted strict immigration policies to protect union labor. Trump is the one who flipped that on its head using xenophobic scare tactics.
08-02-2023, 10:20 AM
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Originally Posted By John
Right on cue, Jayarbie makes a reasonable point and a MAGA homo immediately tries to spin it. Funny, not a single MAGA person said anything negative about Rudy when Rudy was defending Trump. Weird.They weren't liberal to the extent that Giuliani was, though. Rudy was firmly on the left when it came to immigration.
08-02-2023, 10:29 AM
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Originally Posted By John
"The left" at the time was anti-immigration. That was the liberal stance. The conservative/GOP position was to import cheap labor. Being that open on immigration, Rudy was aligned with a farrightviewpoint.They weren't liberal to the extent that Giuliani was, though. Rudy was firmly on the left when it came to immigration.
His gun control position was clearly liberal, but as the mayor of a big city whose #1 priority was controlling crime, that's probably not too surprising. There is no way NYC will ever have a mayor who is dyed in the wool conservative on every issue.
08-02-2023, 10:45 AM
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08-02-2023, 11:06 AM
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Originally Posted By ass****er1⏩
I do not consider myself a MAGA type, but I've loathed him for quite some time, admittedly not really policy-based, just from those debates he came off as a typical neo-con establishment goon. Pro-war, pro-Afghanistan, laughed like a hyena at Ron Paul -- when time has proven Ron was 100% absolutely correct. I really only knew he cleaned up crime in NYC and not even do what methods he used to do it.Right on cue, Jayarbie makes a reasonable point and a MAGA homo immediately tries to spin it. Funny, not a single MAGA person said anything negative about Rudy when Rudy was defending Trump. Weird.
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08-02-2023, 11:40 AM
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Originally Posted By Jayarbie⏩
Not true, the two bills that Rudy was suing the federal govt over were the bills to allow hospitals etc to report illegal aliens to the feds, and to ban new immigrants from access to welfare. These bills were introduced by Republicans and voted for overwhelmingly by Republicans. The vast majority of Democrats in the house voted against the latter bill, and a majority voted against the former. Reps like Bernie Sanders voted against these bills. Rudy was clearly on the left, here."The left" at the time was anti-immigration. That was the liberal stance. The conservative/GOP position was to import cheap labor. Being that open on immigration, Rudy was aligned with a farrightviewpoint.
His gun control position was clearly liberal, but as the mayor of a big city whose #1 priority was controlling crime, that's probably not too surprising. There is no way NYC will ever have a mayor who is dyed in the wool conservative on every issue.
His gun control position was clearly liberal, but as the mayor of a big city whose #1 priority was controlling crime, that's probably not too surprising. There is no way NYC will ever have a mayor who is dyed in the wool conservative on every issue.
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