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post 1689994373 09-13-2023, 11:31 AM
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Help, how do I rebuild a collapsed wall?

My grandfather built these stone walls around my entire property. I think he built them in the late 50's maybe early 60's. With all this rain we've had part of the wall collapsed. Does anyone have experience in how to fix something like this? I'm seriously bummed...

Any advice would be appreciated.

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post 1689994443 09-13-2023, 11:32 AM
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put them back in place
post 1689994573 09-13-2023, 11:33 AM
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These are rubblestone walls, you need to rebuild them with lime mortar if you want them to be like the original.

The joints failed from wet soil pressure so I’d have an engineer check it out

I’d probably drive corrugated metal on the inside of the wall for some actual strength then build in front of it.
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post 1689994643 09-13-2023, 11:34 AM
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The same way he did it.

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You're gonna have to do some stacking and mortar work.
post 1689995183 09-13-2023, 11:42 AM
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I was reading the thread about that guy who spotted the Giant in Canada, and mysteriously died. That got me curious about Giants and about an hour ago I looked up youtube videos about them, with many theories that it was Giants who built the huge Earth structures like Stonehenge and such thousands of years ago.

So my advice is to get a Giant to reassemble it.
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post 1689995423 09-13-2023, 11:46 AM
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Tell gramps to come back and fix his chitty work
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post 1689996103 09-13-2023, 11:56 AM
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post 1689996333 09-13-2023, 12:00 PM
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I mean, it would look a bit funky at first, but you could just put them back together, idk the word in english i tried to google, here we say kitti. But anyway the **** you put between the rocks to hold it in place, start from the bottom up & fit the big piece thats still intact. The new "glue" would look a bit dumb and the whole project is a helluva hsssle,

For the big piece you would need either a prime larry wheels. Or a lift. Again dont know the english word but the station with a chain. Same **** you lift a car engine with.
Or some other type of lift thats what just comes to my mind 1st.
U can probably rent one for 20 bucks a day off some tradie
post 1689997003 09-13-2023, 12:09 PM
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Probably easier to knock the mortar off everything that fall out and remortar. Getting that large piece lined up would be difficult
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post 1689997073 09-13-2023, 12:11 PM
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Originally Posted By multiplemiggs
Probably easier to knock the mortar off everything that fall out and remortar. Getting that large piece lined up would be difficult
this man knows

srsly

but yeah your gramps don fuked up building wall against earth works. when the water seeps into the earth it'll swell slightly and if you have a wall built right up against it over time it will get pushed by the swelling earth/pressure bursting it open
post 1689997123 09-13-2023, 12:11 PM
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Reparo should do the trick.
post 1689997233 09-13-2023, 12:12 PM
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post 1689997343 09-13-2023, 12:14 PM
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If you live in Mass, it wasn't the rain. Everything is old and crumbly. Hire a mason.
post 1689997773 09-13-2023, 12:23 PM
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Need to shoot some rebar through those rocks
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Rebuild it and they will cum

post 1690000443 09-13-2023, 01:08 PM
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When you rebuild put drainage holes at the bottom, this can be done with a plastic pipe or by just leaving a gap, the build up of water behind probably caused the collapse and will happen again without drainage holes.

You will need to chip all the mortar off the stones with a hammer and chisel

Dig a solid foundation and put concrete (course aggregate, sand and cement) at the bottom in a trench 150mm deep

Rebuild with mortar (sand + cement)

Don't forget the drainage / weep holes

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post 1690000523 09-13-2023, 01:09 PM
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Originally Posted By aaron501
this man knows

srsly

but yeah your gramps don fuked up building wall against earth works. when the water seeps into the earth it'll swell slightly and if you have a wall built right up against it over time it will get pushed by the swelling earth/pressure bursting it open
He did have random pipes placed throughout the walls to help with drainage. The house was built in 1948 and the walls years later...old and things start to fall apart.

Thanks everyone.
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post 1690000593 09-13-2023, 01:10 PM
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Originally Posted By squat_blaster
If you live in Mass, it wasn't the rain. Everything is old and crumbly. Hire a mason.
The area looks quite green which means rainfall in my book, I'm pretty sure its because of water build up
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Originally Posted By kimm4
He did have random pipes placed throughout the walls to help with drainage. The house was built in 1948 and the walls years later...old and things start to fall apart.

Thanks everyone.
Also put loose stones behind the wall when it is rebuilt to help with drainage
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Mortar.

The real alpha Masons don't need that chit though.

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Hire a mason.
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Originally Posted By Polaris
Mortar.

The real alpha Masons don't need that chit though.

Even the Incas would admire this thing of beauty lol
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Originally Posted By MrSchons
The area looks quite green which means rainfall in my book, I'm pretty sure its because of water build up
I think it's a combination of the rain and some work the landlord did to the house behind me. He brought in gravel to change up his drainage around his property so now the water comes into my property. He also cut a down a bunch of trees and his heavy equipment cracked part of my wall...the part that fell.

Years later and here we are...
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Glue it back together. SRS.
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Originally Posted By kimm4
I think it's a combination of the rain and some work the landlord did to the house behind me. He brought in gravel to change up his drainage around his property so now the water comes into my property. He also cut a down a bunch of trees and his heavy equipment cracked part of my wall...the part that fell.

Years later and here we are...
My heavy equipment wood make you walls crack and cause drainage issues. Srs.
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make a base of concrete
/or make a foundation
then set the rocks up

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IDK much about building a stone wall, but if it's anything like concrete you probably need wood to brace the wall up when you restack it. Also on a concrete wall you would most likely need to place pvc pipe somewhere near the bottom to allow drainage, not too sure if that applies to stone wall. (Super Ded fkn Srs)
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Originally Posted By kimm4
My grandfather built these stone walls around my entire property. I think he built them in the late 50's maybe early 60's. With all this rain we've had part of the wall collapsed. Does anyone have experience in how to fix something like this? I'm seriously bummed...

Any advice would be appreciated.

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I bet there was Never a French drain install at the bottom of the wall to move the water out.
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