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post 1690354253 09-20-2023, 12:08 AM
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Scholars warn Outdated Constitution has put Democracy at risk

.....and they're making rounds on all the liberal networks

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post 1690354423 09-20-2023, 12:17 AM
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We are not a democracy. We are a republic. These are scholars?
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Levitzky and Ziblatt you say eh...boy I can't wait to spend $200,000 to let these American sounding names tell me how America is a democracy in peril because of orange man and we need a progressive constitution like South Africa.
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Originally Posted By Jasonw1178
We are not a democracy. We are a republic. These are scholars?
Be careful of whoever is feeding you this line of bullsht. Nothing good is behind it.
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post 1690355473 09-20-2023, 01:00 AM
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Originally Posted By Weightaholic
Be careful of whoever is feeding you this line of bullsht. Nothing good is behind it.
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post 1690355573 09-20-2023, 01:06 AM
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Originally Posted By Jasonw1178
We are not a democracy. We are a republic. These are scholars?
A republic is a form of democracy, just one where the government is "of the people" rather than being ultimately owned by a monarch or something similar.

The US is, by every definition, a democracy, and always has been.

When the founders criticised democracy, they were criticising the old Greek styles of direct democracy where people gathered in the Acropolis to vote on specific issues. That was the only real type of democracy that had existed at that point in time, and was associated with possible tyranny of the majority and so forth.

So the US became a representative democracy with a Constitution preserving basic rights. And is a republic in that it doesn't have a monarch and the democratically elected leader is also the head of state.

At some point in the last couple decades right wing retards jumped on this "we are not a democracy!!!" line whenever disenfranchising people becomes politically useful to them, but it isn't true of course.
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post 1690356013 09-20-2023, 01:43 AM
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Democrats have been wanting to do away with the constitution for some time now.

As I was reading yesterday, Democrats don't care all that much about elections anymore.

Along these lines ~

Biden’s Candidacy and the Radicalizing Power of Desperation
An unwinnable candidate is the best incentive for breaking the rules.

https://www.frontpagemag.com/bidens-...f-desperation/

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....Biden is the presumptive nominee not because he is a sure thing, but because he can’t win. That would make no sense to.a traditional Democrat’s way of thinking, but the party is no longer run by the old school, but by a new school of radicals. Its goal is not to win elections, but to radicalize the party and the country. A hopelessly weak candidate facing an unwinnable election against Trump or DeSantis serves that purpose far better than a Newsom victory.

An unwinnable candidate in an election they can’t afford to lose will once again radicalize the Democrats and force them to break rules they hadn’t even previously thought of breaking.

To leftists the election isn’t the issue, only the revolution. From the leftist perspective they won in both 2016 and 2020 because they were able to radicalize the party, its apparatus and rank and file members. Getting suburban housewives to put on pink hats and howl in the streets after a massive defeat doesn’t look like anything that the party would have found rewarding in 1956, but the Left is not out to win elections, but to end them and take over the entire country.

While Republicans celebrated, leftists broke new ground in radicalizing Democrats and in coordinating the machinery of the administrative state to act openly against Trump and Republicans. Republicans had won an election, but leftists had unleashed a state within a state. Openly sidelining elected officials for unelected ones is much more fundamental to the leftist agenda than any of the culture war battles because it prepares the way for a totalitarian state.

Then after terrorizing Democrats and some independents with monstrous caricatures of Trump for four years, the party and its allies were willing to do anything in 2020. And they did.

Biden’s weakness, elderly and running a basement campaign, was a strength, not a weakness.

Democrats, convinced that they couldn’t win naturally, pulled out all the stops, at the state level, exploiting public health emergencies, unilaterally changing voting rules, setting off race riots and bringing the country to its knees. Would they have been as desperate with a strong candidate?....
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WTF do I care what some dumbass communist thinks?

EDIT: Actually listened to some of this and LOL'd at "minority rule". These same clowns were the ones advocating sit-ins and civil disobedience in the 60s, but now this sort of stuff is problematic because the Marxists are finally in charge. Got it.
Best thread: http://forum.obnoxiousbrutes.com/showthread.php?t=168274783
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post 1690359053 09-20-2023, 04:48 AM
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these are the same scholars that say "ackshually communism hasnt been really tried yet!" and that the earth will be destroyed by rising sea levels by 2015. same people that said masks work and the vaccine stops the spread.


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post 1690359063 09-20-2023, 04:49 AM
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Originally Posted By Jasonw1178
We are not a democracy. We are a republic. These are scholars?
No, they're liberals. Big difference. Means they hate America and want its downfall. Painful to watch
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post 1690359263 09-20-2023, 05:01 AM
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Constitution... A threat to democracy!



In before libs agree with it.
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post 1690359463 09-20-2023, 05:13 AM
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Let's just do the war and get it over with.
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Actually, the Constitution is very outdated. The problem is that we don't have anyone currently in our government with the integrity to update it with the best interests of the country. Way too much monetary interests involved in the shaping of the government that the Constitution is basically impossible to make improvements on.
post 1690359913 09-20-2023, 05:31 AM
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Originally Posted By AlfBundy
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My favourite part was where you proved me wrong with all your facts.
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post 1690360403 09-20-2023, 05:45 AM
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Over how the left is pumping up the "Republicans are a threat to democracy" line again.......

Like having Newsom accuse someone like DeSantis, of being a tyrant. Someone who had implemented the harshest lock down in the country VS someone who gave people choice.
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Originally Posted By Dave22reborn
Over how the left is pumping up the "Republicans are a threat to democracy" line again.......

Like having Newsom accuse someone like DeSantis, of being a tyrant. Someone who had implemented the harshest lock down in the country VS someone who gave people choice.
See a pattern?

Wait and see.. whoever the "R" candidate is for 2024 he will no doubt be a racist, and a fascist, there will be some sexual assault allegations surface from ~1996, and he didn't do enough to fight covid or climate change.
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post 1690360923 09-20-2023, 06:02 AM
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Originally Posted By Bushmaster
See a pattern?

Wait and see.. whoever the "R" candidate is for 2024 he will no doubt be a racist, and a fascist, there will be some sexual assault allegations surface from ~1996, and he didn't do enough to fight covid or climate change.
Newsom later did an interview, and admitted that everyone did everything wrong during the Rona, but didn't take the blame, instead he said **** like "we" didn't know any better. "We" did what we thought was right......

Then later ranted about how democracy would be destroyed if Trump won again, and how he'll be supporting Biden's reelection.....
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pretty sure its these scholars that are a risk to the democracy in the US
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Originally Posted By gachase21
Let's just do the war and get it over with.
They waged it long ago...and we/American first voters lost. Thats not even debatable.
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I don't know why yall care much for the constitution anyways, just look where it has gotten us.
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"Democracy" is sure used a lot by the loon-left. They never define democracy. They just use it as another fabricated crisis, like the Russia Hoax, the Kavanaugh Hoax and Climate Change Hoax.

The Democracy in Peril Hoax
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Originally Posted By Bushmaster
See a pattern?

Wait and see.. whoever the "R" candidate is for 2024 he will no doubt be a racist, and a fascist, there will be some sexual assault allegations surface from ~1996, and he didn't do enough to fight covid or climate change.
So you're predicting the chit flinging in the next election will be like the chit flinging in every previous election?

It's a pattern!
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So you're predicting the chit flinging in the next election will be like the chit flinging in every previous election?

It's a pattern!
And the 'Tard with his throbbing rock hard extra chromosome enters the chat.

No 'tard, there is shiit flinging, and then there's "He raped me in 1982!"
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Originally Posted By Bushmaster
And the 'Tard with his throbbing rock hard extra chromosome enters the chat.

No 'tard, there is shiit flinging, and then there's "He raped me in 1982!"
If you're talking about Tara Reade, then it supposedly happened in 1993.

I get the point though, D candidates are peedough rapist tranny groomers, R candidates are victims.

You should post some pics to prove it now, you know you want to.
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It’s Democrats who don’t believe in the Constitution

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/o...n-constitution

excerpt:

In what amounts to his congressional exit interview, Sen. Mitt Romney (R-UT) told the Atlantic magazine, “A very large portion of my party really doesn’t believe in the Constitution.”

He didn’t say who he meant but it surely included former President Donald Trump, who falsely claims that the 2020 election was stolen from him and who did next to nothing to stop the Jan. 6, 2021, Capitol riot. (Incidentally, Trump is banging that drum less after building his massive Republican primary lead, and it seems he’s come to see he can expunge the humiliation of defeat more effectively by winning the 2024 nomination than by bleating ad nauseam about “the steal.”)

SCHUMER CHOOSES DECLINE FOR SENATE DECORUM

Romney probably also intended to condemn Trump supporters and non-repudiators. This is weaker ground. Yes, some Republicans in Congress and the last administration are MAGA believers, but many aren’t. The Atlantic confirmed this by reporting that Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-KY) said others in the GOP agreed with him but could not speak candidly.

The reason these non-repudiators won’t denounce Trump isn’t due to any disrespect for the Constitution, it's to avoid alienating MAGA voters, which would gift the federal government to Constitution-trashing Democrats. Likewise, admirable people worked in the Trump administration (and told him he was wrong) in the honorable belief that they’d do more good as wise counselors inside the tent than as outsiders openly disdaining Trumpist officials.....
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Originally Posted By isingmodel
A republic is a form of democracy, just one where the government is "of the people" rather than being ultimately owned by a monarch or something similar.

The US is, by every definition, a democracy, and always has been.

When the founders criticised democracy, they were criticising the old Greek styles of direct democracy where people gathered in the Acropolis to vote on specific issues. That was the only real type of democracy that had existed at that point in time, and was associated with possible tyranny of the majority and so forth.

So the US became a representative democracy with a Constitution preserving basic rights. And is a republic in that it doesn't have a monarch and the democratically elected leader is also the head of state.

At some point in the last couple decades right wing retards jumped on this "we are not a democracy!!!" line whenever disenfranchising people becomes politically useful to them, but it isn't true of course.
Besides convicted felons, who has ACTUALLY been disenfranchised in the last couple decades? Literally no one.
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You have to be smoking copious amounts of crack to believe they'd have the opinions they have if Hillary won in 2016 through the electoral college process, or if Hillary had been able to nominate several Supreme Court justices instead of Trump. "Experts" = partisan loyalists in that CNN segment. It didn't take long for for the first dude to cite Trump as to why the Constitution is outdated. Predictable and like clockwork.

Something almost everyone wants is term limits for Congress. If anything about elections is to change that has to be first. Something like 16 yrs total is more than fair. Yes that means no three time Senators unless they're serving a partial term in there.
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