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post 1690715423 09-26-2023, 03:39 PM
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NY judge finds Trump defrauded banks, insurers; orders dissolution of Trump Org

https://apnews.com/article/donald-tr...b8d3ba5da74249


In Major Ruling, Judge in Fraud Case Finds Trump Overvalued Property
The decision will simplify the path to victory for Attorney General Letitia James, who has accused former President Donald J. Trump of overvaluing his properties by as much as $2.2 billion.
The New York attorney general won a major victory in her civil case against Donald J. Trump on Tuesday when a New York judge determined that the former president fraudulently inflated the value of his assets to obtain favorable loans and insurance deals.

The decision by Justice Arthur F. Engoron precedes a trial that is scheduled to begin Monday, and could considerably smooth Attorney General Letitia James’s path.

Justice Engoron’s decision narrows the issues that will be heard, effectively deciding that the trial was not necessary to find that Mr. Trump was liable and that the core of Ms. James’s case was valid. It represents a major blow to Mr. Trump, whose lawyers had sought to persuade the judge to throw out many of the claims against the former president.

The judge also ordered sanctions against Mr. Trump’s lawyers for making arguments that he previously rejected. He ordered each to pay $7,500.


https://www.nytimes.com/2023/09/26/n...aud-trial.html
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Cult leader seems like a real honest stand up guy that would never break the law with all these indictments and convictions coming in.
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post 1690715953 09-26-2023, 03:45 PM
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If people can't see that there is a deep power attacking trump here. Likely coming from the same people that stole the election from him then you are blind.

The man is being attacked from all fronts

This is unheard of
"it takes a wise man to know when he is in error and a noble man to admit to it"
post 1690716053 09-26-2023, 03:46 PM
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post 1690716103 09-26-2023, 03:48 PM
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Do you think any of this happens if he wasn't running against Democrats?
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post 1690716223 09-26-2023, 03:49 PM
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Legit sitting here fukking laughing right now


They are stooping so low as to go after over inflating assets to get better insurance rates…

Its funny how pathetic it’s getting


Surely this time they will get him !!!!!
post 1690716623 09-26-2023, 03:55 PM
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Originally Posted By latverian41⏩
If people can't see that there is a deep power attacking trump here. Likely coming from the same people that stole the election from him then you are blind.

The man is being attacked from all fronts

This is unheard of
Lol
post 1690716683 09-26-2023, 03:55 PM
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Originally Posted By latverian41⏩
If people can't see that there is a deep power attacking trump here. Likely coming from the same people that stole the election from him then you are blind.

The man is being attacked from all fronts

This is unheard of
At this point trump can say “I could stand in the middle of Fifth Avenue and shoot somebody, okay, and I wouldn't lose any cultist”

He could then proceed to shoot someone on live television in the middle of Fifth Avenue, get arrested and charged with murder, and the cult will predictably screech,


“POLITICAL PERSECUTION!!!!1!” at the top of their lungs.

That’s how far , deep & unrepentantly they have crawled up his anus.
Don't push me 'cause I'm close to the edge
I'm trying not to lose my head
It's like a jungle sometimes
It makes me wonder how I keep from goin' under…~ (Melvin Glover, better known by his stage name Melle Mel and Grandmaster Melle Mel, is an American hip hop recording artist who was the lead vocalist and songwriter of Grandmaster Flash and the Furious Five.)

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post 1690718323 09-26-2023, 04:24 PM
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Originally Posted By Duckliver⏩
Legit sitting here fukking laughing right now


They are stooping so low as to go after over inflating assets to get better insurance rates…

Its funny how pathetic it’s getting


Surely this time they will get him !!!!!
So fraud is OK? I'll save time and just say it's OK only when someone you like is doing it.
My personal pronouns are: Don't talk to me/Fck off
post 1690718523 09-26-2023, 04:27 PM
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Originally Posted By KINGFABIAN⏩
At this point trump can say “I could stand in the middle of Fifth Avenue and shoot somebody, okay, and I wouldn't lose any cultist”

He could then proceed to shoot someone on live television in the middle of Fifth Avenue, get arrested and charged with murder, and the cult will predictably screech,


“POLITICAL PERSECUTION!!!!1!” at the top of their lungs.

That’s how far , deep & unrepentantly they have crawled up his anus.
post 1690719153 09-26-2023, 04:38 PM
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Good, can't give a pass to white collar corruption.

Also, Justice Arthur F. Engoron signs his name like a retard.
post 1690719653 09-26-2023, 04:46 PM
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Originally Posted By Weightaholic⏩
So fraud is OK? I'll save time and just say it's OK only when someone you like is doing it.
When you compare Trumps fraud vs. Biden fraud it is nothing, so no, Americans don’t care as the polls reflect.

Oh he overvalued his land or didn’t pay his taxes. That’s not something EVERY rich real estate investor in the country does. Better that than have our politicians get rich from back hand deals with foreign countries at the expense of American workers and people.

Liberals have no perspective. They think over half the country is a ‘cult’. Noobs.
post 1690719793 09-26-2023, 04:48 PM
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Another absolutely ridiculous bullchit court case. Why is every single judge plotting against Trump? Not one judge in any of these witch hunts is showing impartiality.

The American people are not buying it.
post 1690720073 09-26-2023, 04:53 PM
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Maybe I'm just not educated on this. How does a business owner overinflate his own assets? Wouldn't a 3rd party appraisal determine its worth?
post 1690720463 09-26-2023, 05:00 PM
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Originally Posted By GuineaDago585⏩
Why is every single judge plotting against Trump?
Maybe apply a little bit of Occam's Razor to the problem and there is likely a simple answer.
post 1690721143 09-26-2023, 05:12 PM
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Originally Posted By tng83⏩
Maybe I'm just not educated on this. How does a business owner overinflate his own assets? Wouldn't a 3rd party appraisal determine its worth?
https://ag.ny.gov/sites/default/file...um_-_final.pdf

They were getting appraisals, but then reporting the values differently on the statements provided to lenders. Lenders often relied on Trump attesting to to the accuracy of the statements instead doing their own appraisals.
post 1690721573 09-26-2023, 05:20 PM
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Trump poll numbers going through the roof
post 1690721623 09-26-2023, 05:21 PM
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Originally Posted By Seatard⏩
Maybe apply a little bit of Occam's Razor to the problem and there is likely a simple answer.
So...do you think Trump is legitimately that much more corrupt than so many of these dirty career politicians, to warrant such a huge disparity in all of these charges/trials/prosecution attempts/etc?
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WITCH HUNT


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Originally Posted By Polaris⏩
So...do you think Trump is legitimately that much more corrupt than so many of these dirty career politicians, to warrant such a huge disparity in all of these charges/trials/prosecution attempts/etc?
I think Trump is likely equally, or maybe even less corrupt than the rest of them. That some get away with it isn't an argument to me for leniency.

I also think there is validity to your point but don't know how you avoid the reality of it. Trump's that guy who speeds around in a loud kitted out Dodge Charger with a trunk full of coke.
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Originally Posted By latverian41⏩
If people can't see that there is a deep power attacking trump here. Likely coming from the same people that stole the election from him then you are blind.

The man is being attacked from all fronts

This is unheard of
Or maybe he’s a dirtbag con man.
I loe e.
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Originally Posted By 2011change⏩
WITCH HUNT


Biggest WITCH HUNT OF ALL TIME
And the witch keeps getting caught
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Originally Posted By gachase21⏩
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Lets say you are going to take out insurance on your house or get a loan with your house as collateral. They ask you how much your property is worth and you say it's worth $500K wuen in reality it's only worth 300K. Judge would say that's fraud if he thinks you knew better and inflated the price. However, it's up to the institution giving the loan or the insurance policy to have it appraised, but they didn't do that.


Yet another one where Trump isn't going to jail after liberals hoped. The only one where he might serve time is the GA case and just LOL @ you if you think that a black woman named Fani Willis (Willis lol srs) can make this happen.
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Mar A Lago is only worth 18 million dollars?












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They said Mar-a-Lago worth $18 million?



As of November 29, 2022:
According to Forbes' latest evaluation of the property in March,Mar-a-Lago is worth $350 million.
https://www.newsweek.com/how-much-ma...-sells-1763066
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Originally Posted By Jasonw1178⏩
Yet another one where Trump isn't going to jail after liberals hoped.
It's a civil lawsuit, so I don't think jail was ever an expected outcome.
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