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post 1691207663 10-06-2023, 06:57 AM
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Do you think the prevalence of psych meds in the US is

Causing more women to be obese/lose their glow?

It's widely known that the US over medicates, as well as the statistics that show anti-psychotics are associated with "significant weight gain"

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3031940/

Do you really think depression/bipolar/BPD is as common as it is?
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No it's lack of physical activity and poor diet. People who turn to psychiatric meds are already seeking blame blame some other separate entity for their problems, and that continues to extend by blaming whatever drug it is. Then statistics are skewed by correlating the drug use and weight gain without providing a concrete mechanism on how it's happening. "oh it slows your metabolism" no stacy your thyroid numbers are low because you have an eating disorder caused by a lack of knowledge about adequate nutrition and health.
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Aren't you on meds? yet you are skinny.
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Originally Posted By ChaliHo
Aren't you on meds? yet you are skinny.
Nope
They misdiagnosed me and I was fat AF because I was eating insane amounts "in my sleep"

Only meds I'm on now are stimulants for narcolepsy as needed (I take them once or twice a week) and heart medication

Them misdiagnosing me and having me on such heavy meds for so long is what made me wonder
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Originally Posted By Archangel_Lost
No it's lack of physical activity and poor diet. People who turn to psychiatric meds are already seeking blame blame some other separate entity for their problems, and that continues to extend by blaming whatever drug it is. Then statistics are skewed by correlating the drug use and weight gain without providing a concrete mechanism on how it's happening. "oh it slows your metabolism" no stacy your thyroid numbers are low because you have an eating disorder caused by a lack of knowledge about adequate nutrition and health.
Fair point, but why do docs so readily give them out here?
No, they don't slow down your metabolism, but they do slow you down, in general

Just seems like they compound the issues even further than actually help anything
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You're a lazy fat slob that lacks discipline and self-control, you're also a white woman. It was always gonna end like that, meds or no meds.
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Originally Posted By HarryDick
You're a lazy fat slob that lacks discipline and self-control, you're also a white woman. It was always gonna end like that, meds or no meds.
I'm not fat tho
Or on antipsychotics or antidepressants
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Originally Posted By ZyraThornrise
Fair point, but why do docs so readily give them out here?
No, they don't slow down your metabolism, but they do slow you down, in general

Just seems like they compound the issues even further than actually help anything
There is a strong pro-meds bias among doctors IMO. I was depressed for reasons [mostly stress and grief] and it was situational. I knew it was situational and that a pill wasn't going to fix it, but I had multiple doctors offer me pills which I declined.

There may be some segment of people for whom a pill is needed or helps to stabilize a situation. I don't believe that "one size fits all", but IMO in most cases better health habits and fixing whatever is going on in a person's life that is making them so anxious or unhappy is what is really needed. There isn't really any funding or much help for that though, so if you can't figure it out yourself you may get stuck in a bad spot.

As far as the weight thing goes it's a multiple factor thing- endocrine disruptors, birth control pills, lack of sun exposure, sedentary lifestyle, highly palatable low effort low nutrition foodstuffs, etc.

The most recent thing I ran across was about iodine and how deficient most people are in the US. Our daily intake is on average much less than Japan [seen many obese Japanese?] plus our tap water is treated with chemicals which bind to the same site where iodine binds [chlorine and flouride] and there is a relationship between insufficient iodine and both sexual organ dysfunction + tendency to being overweight.

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Originally Posted By Techriding101
80% of career women are on *****/zoloft or something similar to deal with the stress of pretending to be a man. This of course makes them worker drone zombies. However as this turns them into zombies, they also prescribe a stimulant like @dderall to give them a little pep.

These MFers are high all day and then go home to guzzle boxed wine like it's a 2nd full time job.
TBF, women have been high AF for centuries
We just stopped lobotomizing the ones that couldn't cope
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Originally Posted By katya422
There is a strong pro-meds bias among doctors IMO. I was depressed for reasons [mostly stress and grief] and it was situational. I knew it was situational and that a pill wasn't going to fix it, but I had multiple doctors offer me pills which I declined.

There may be some segment of people for whom a pill is needed or helps to stabilize a situation. I don't believe that "one size fits all", but IMO in most cases better health habits and fixing whatever is going on in a person's life that is making them so anxious or unhappy is what is really needed. There isn't really any funding or much help for that though, so if you can't figure it out yourself you may get stuck in a bad spot.

As far as the weight thing goes it's a multiple factor thing- endocrine disruptors, birth control pills, lack of sun exposure, sedentary lifestyle, highly palatable low effort low nutrition foodstuffs, etc.

The most recent thing I ran across was about iodine and how deficient most people are in the US. Our daily intake is on average much less than Japan [seen many obese Japanese?] plus our tap water is treated with chemicals which bind to the same site where iodine binds [chlorine and flouride] and there is a relationship between insufficient iodine and both sexual organ dysfunction + tendency to being overweight.

Iodine is already supplemented with table salt in the US. If you live in the first world, you're not deficient. If you supplement with iodine without knowing if you are deficient, you can really **** your thyroid up. Please don't read retardation on the internet that rails against disinfecting drinking water. Sexual dysfunction occurs because people get fat and have other comorbidities in association with being fat like cardiovascular disease and diabetes. And they are fat because they eat to much and do not move enough. There is no magic molecule in the water that's causing this.
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they cause way more problems than they solve
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Originally Posted By Evolutionary1
they cause way more problems than they solve
Agreed
Was so much more messed up when I was on them
Had no motivation to do anything at all
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Originally Posted By ZyraThornrise
Fair point, but why do docs so readily give them out here?
Dude, it's 20 fkn 23 -Doctors do not give one single fuk about your health.

Most got into medicine for the $$$ - and pharmaceutical companies have lots of cash to burn. They both want you to be sick - so that they prescribe you all sorts of chit (patients get the scripts they want) and in return they all get ugggggggggggggggge bonuses.

You're better off getting health advice from miscin' than a doctor.

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Originally Posted By ChewYourFood
Dude, it's 20 fkn 23 -Doctors do not give one single fuk about your health.

Most got into medicine for the $$$ - and pharmaceutical companies have lots of cash to burn. They both want you to be sick - so that they prescribe you all sorts of chit (patients get the scripts they want) and in return they all get ugggggggggggggggge bonuses.

You're better off getting health advice from miscin' than a doctor.

Food is your medicine & medicine is your food brah.
You're exactly right, though
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“No day passes that the mail does not flood the doctor’s office with suggestions about what to use in his clinical practice. My desk overflows with gadgets and multi-coloured pills telling me that without them mankind cannot be happy. The propaganda campaign reaching our medical eyes and ears is often so laden with suggestions that we can be persuaded to distribute sedatives and stimulants where straight critical thinking would deter us and we would seek the deeper causes of the difficulties. This is true not only for modern pharmacotherapy; the same tendencies can also be shown in psychotherapeutic methods.

This chapter aims to approach the problem of mental coercion with the question: How compulsive can the use of medical drugs and medical and psychological methods become? In the former chapters on menticide I was able to describe political attempts to bring the human mind into submission and servility. Drugs and their psychological equivalents are also able to enslave”


“The Nazis followed a similar strategy. During the occupation of Western Europe, they created an artificial shortage of normal medicaments by halting their usual export of healing drugs to the “inferior” countries. However, they made an exception in the case of barbiturates. In Holland, for example, these drugs were made readily available in many drugstores without doctors’ prescriptions, a situation which was against customary Dutch law. Although the right therapeutic drugs were not made available for medical work, the drugs which created passivity, dependence, and lethargy were widely distributed.

The totalitarian dictator knows that drugs can be his helpers. It was Hitler’s intention, in his so-called biological warfare, to weaken and subdue the countries that surrounded the Third Reich, and to break their backbones for good. Hunger and addiction were among his most valuable tools.

What has all this to do with the growing addiction and alcoholism in our own country? I have already mentioned the alarming increases in death from barbiturates. But I would like to emphasize even more the psychological and political consequences. Democracy and freedom end where slavery and submission to drugs and alcohol begin. Democracy involves free, self-chosen activity and understanding; it means mature self-control and independence. Any man who escapes from reality through the use of alcohol and drugs is no longer. “longer able to exert any voluntary control over his mind and his actions. He is no longer a self-responsible individual. Alcoholism and drug addiction prepare the pattern of mental submission so beloved by the totalitarian brainwasher.”

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Originally Posted By Archangel_Lost
Iodine is already supplemented with table salt in the US. If you live in the first world, you're not deficient. If you supplement with iodine without knowing if you are deficient, you can really **** your thyroid up. Please don't read retardation on the internet that rails against disinfecting drinking water. Sexual dysfunction occurs because people get fat and have other comorbidities in association with being fat like cardiovascular disease and diabetes. And they are fat because they eat to much and do not move enough. There is no magic molecule in the water that's causing this.
Says the average US RDA is 150 mcg per day vs. regular consumption in Japan of 1000 to 3000 mcg a day. I didn't say anything about not sanitizing water, just pointing out that if you have low consumption already + the site for it to bind is filled with something else = higher likelihood of deficiency symptoms.
Iodine may help with various conditions, including:
• Estrogen dominance
• Heavy periods
• Fibrocystic breasts
• Ovarian cysts
• Endometriosis
• Fibroids
• Prostate enlargement
• PCOS
• Cystic acne
• TB
• Croup
• Asthma
• Toenail fungus
• Warts and skin tags
• Thyroid conditions
• Weight gain
• Brain fog
• Feeling cold (excessively)
• Dry skin and hair
• Constipation
• Depression

Top causes of iodine deficiency:
• Consuming excessive amounts of raw cruciferous vegetables
• Consuming millet, soy, or sweet potatoes
• The vegan diet
• Pregnancy and lactation
• Low-salt diets
• Fluoride
• Bromide
• Perchlorate in water
• Nitrates
And I said right up front that there are probably multiple contributing factors + I listed several.
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Originally Posted By Archangel_Lost
Iodine is already supplemented with table salt in the US. If you live in the first world, you're not deficient. If you supplement with iodine without knowing if you are deficient, you can really **** your thyroid up. Please don't read retardation on the internet that rails against disinfecting drinking water. Sexual dysfunction occurs because people get fat and have other comorbidities in association with being fat like cardiovascular disease and diabetes. And they are fat because they eat to much and do not move enough. There is no magic molecule in the water that's causing this.
No I don't think people are getting their RDA of iodine from table salt. I doubt a lot of restaurants and food manufacturers are specifically using iodized salt, specifically, instead of just sodium chloride.

Personally I took thyroid supplements (just a thyroid complex) and I saw a lot of benefits from it. Stopped craving bread, regrew some hair, had a bit better energy without the need for caffeine and gay energy drinks
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Originally Posted By Archangel_Lost
No it's lack of physical activity and poor diet. People who turn to psychiatric meds are already seeking blame blame some other separate entity for their problems, and that continues to extend by blaming whatever drug it is. Then statistics are skewed by correlating the drug use and weight gain without providing a concrete mechanism on how it's happening. "oh it slows your metabolism" no stacy your thyroid numbers are low because you have an eating disorder caused by a lack of knowledge about adequate nutrition and health.
True, that mindset of taking the easy road correlates to how they live their life which can equal being fat and unhealthy

That doesn't negate the fact that many of these petroleum based pharmaceuticals will alter your bodies chemistry and can impact metabolism negatively along with many other negative/life changing side effects

What did we learn? Meds poison the mind and body

Why am I saying this? Because I've seen it enough to know, there are even examples of it here on the misc
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Because big pharma pushes doctors to sell pills. They don't care about the end result. They just want you to keep buying pills.

If you get obese they can sell you even more pills to counteract all the various health difficulties brought on by the added weight. Pill companies and fast food companies are mutually beneficial, breeding fat lazy people.
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Originally Posted By katya422
Says the average US RDA is 150 mcg per day vs. regular consumption in Japan of 1000 to 3000 mcg a day. I didn't say anything about not sanitizing water, just pointing out that if you have low consumption already + the site for it to bind is filled with something else = higher likelihood of deficiency symptoms.
Damn I guess I'll do some reading. Based on quick research tho it doesn't seem that difficult to get the RDA of iodine from food. Easy sources beside salt can be found in tuna, eggs, dairy, and if you wanna go nuts seaweed has a chit ton.
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Personally I took thyroid supplements (just a thyroid complex) and I saw a lot of benefits from it. Stopped craving bread, regrew some hair, had a bit better energy without the need for caffeine and gay energy drinks
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The real issue is trust.

They foolishly trust the doctors to give them some magic pill to help them with this or that.

Its very easy to manipulate someone who basically wants to be manipulated and doctors take full advantage of that.

Imagine going to a mechanic and getting all the repairs done they recommend. They would keep coming up with an endless list and it would never get fully fixed.

What they really need to do is just eat a normal diet like grandma made. That alone will solve 90% of their mental and health issues. Then address the left over issues after that.
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Originally Posted By Silencespeaks
No meds crew

When I was a young adult I took Prozac for a few years and it made me impulsive and euphoric but no weight gain thankfully.
Prozac was the absolute worst

Constantly nauseated, super freaking tired, nonstop hunger and dizzy AF
Never made sense to me that it's so common
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Originally Posted By Silencespeaks
No meds crew
When I was a young adult I tookProzacfor a few years and it made me impulsive and euphoric but no weight gain thankfully.
Originally Posted By ZyraThornrise
Prozacwas the absolute worst
Constantly nauseated, super freaking tired, nonstop hunger and dizzy AF
Never made sense to me that it's so common
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FluorideFluorideis a key ingredient of many psychiatric drugs like fluoxetine (Prozac®, Fluoxetine®). Pregnant women frequently use this drug as they suffer from depression and anxiety disorders during this period. Fluoxetine is able to reach the fetus through the placenta and passes to the newborn through milk.
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There's this 8/10 that goes to my gym. I took a hiatus from going there but I went last week and this girl literally gained like 30 lbs in a couple months.

She works out A LOT, but it looks like she went on a dreamer bulk, pretty sad.
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