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post 1692200783 10-24-2023, 04:06 AM
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Is “MGTOW” just incel cope? (SRS)

What grown ass man genuinely doesn’t care about getting pussy

Seems like copium to me. I’d rather have access to regular sex and companionship than sitting alone in a lamborghini next to an empty passenger seat jerking off into a sock
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post 1692200883 10-24-2023, 04:10 AM
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Life is one big cope.

Or rope, I guess.
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Mgtow more like Men forced going their own way lol.

That said can't blame guys not caring anymore about having relationships with modern western women
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I think that’s specifically what it’s intended to achieve - coping?

I suppose people respond to the incentives that are put in front of them. If they have, genuinely, been rejected from society, then why should they participate in providing their labour etc to society?
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I think MGTOW is just walking away from being the fall back plan that women had grown accustomed too after hoeing out...eventually it will be the correction that is needed in society.
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MGTOW is the end result of a mathematical equation of effort to reward ratio.

Is the effort/risk of pursuing woman worth the likely outcome? For many men, the answer in todays society is no. They look at themselves and what they could reasonably get, consider the potential risk if they were even able to attain a desirable outcome and come to a conclusion on whether they want to try or not. The reality is that a life without women is significantly less stressful but does tend to be lonelier.

Some terminal bachelors reach their 40s-50s and kill themselves. Others find ways to enjoy their life and the mountain of disposable income they have left over from not dealing with women. Personally, I'm somewhere in the middle. I'd put effort into pursuit a high value partner but I'd rather be single forever than be with an average woman. I know many guys who live in silent misery in relationships where they gain basically nothing.
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MGTOW hasn’t been popular in years. It was huge in the late 2010’s before everyone saw it for what it is. Losers that can’t get a girlfriend complaint. Eventually MGTOW just morphed into the same category as incel. The original concept of it was meant to be about men empowering men but that buckled quickly and everyone knows it was always nothing but copers trying to cope.
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Originally Posted By MiscerLonely
MGTOW hasn’t been popular in years. It was huge in the late 2010’s before everyone saw it for what it is. Losers that can’t get a girlfriend complaint. Eventually MGTOW just morphed into the same category as incel. The original concept of it was meant to be about men empowering men but that buckled quickly and everyone knows it was always nothing but copers trying to cope.
I’m still seeing it pop up on my ******** news feed

Not sure why. I’m engaged and don’t follow any MGTOW pages.
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They should focus less on «society» & more on themselves

Work 16 hours a day, lift, tren/test, plastic surgery, hair transplant, veneers, fashionable, nice car etc etc

If you arent Even willing to do those steps in order to be desirable to non hoe girls then what is the point of life?

Video games & forums?
Might as well be dead

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post 1692201423 10-24-2023, 04:34 AM
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Originally Posted By 4everalone
They should focus less on «society» & more on themselves

Work 16 hours a day, lift, tren/test, plastic surgery, hair transplant, veneers, fashionable, nice car etc etc

If you arent Even willing to do those steps in order to be desirable to non hoe girls then what is the point of life?

Video games & forums?
Might as well be dead

Life is about raising sons.
Source: history & hunan biology
Imagine the only meaning you can find in life is through validation of sloots, most of whom have taken a football team worth of dinks and consider you nothing more than a beast of burden for their benefit.
post 1692201563 10-24-2023, 04:44 AM
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Originally Posted By 4everalone
They should focus less on «society» & more on themselves

Work 16 hours a day, lift, tren/test, plastic surgery, hair transplant, veneers, fashionable, nice car etc etc

If you arent Even willing to do those steps in order to be desirable to non hoe girls then what is the point of life?

Video games & forums?
Might as well be dead

Life is about raising sons.
Source: history & hunan biology
Lol imagine being such a cuck you're willing to go that far for some hole, sound just as pathetic as an incel.
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Originally Posted By 4everalone
They should focus less on «society» & more on themselves

Work 16 hours a day, lift, tren/test, plastic surgery, hair transplant, veneers, fashionable, nice car etc etc

If you arent Even willing to do those steps in order to be desirable to non hoe girls then what is the point of life?

Video games & forums?
Might as well be dead

Life is about raising sons.
Source: history & hunan biology
Based, good post.
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post 1692201743 10-24-2023, 04:51 AM
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Originally Posted By ErnieMccracken
Imagine the only meaning you can find in life is through validation of sloots, most of whom have taken a football team worth of dinks and consider you nothing more than a beast of burden for their benefit.
Yeah which is why you find a non sloot & raise sons

Any video game player disagreeing does not belong to the male species.
Might aswell castrate yourself
Originally Posted By ****inator
Lol imagine being such a cuck you're willing to go that far for some hole, sound just as pathetic as an incel.
If you cant Get a non hoe wife without doing those steps then its better to do the steps so you Can further your bloodline

Becoming a docile video game playing geek is worse than death If you Ask me
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post 1692201853 10-24-2023, 04:54 AM
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Originally Posted By 4everalone
Yeah which is why you find a non sloot & raise sons

Any video game player disagreeing does not belong to the male species.
Might aswell castrate yourself
Yeah I'm sure your wife was a virgin bride and never had a train run on her at a frat party.
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I think it started off legitimate then slowly devolved into cope.
Originally Posted By 4everalone
They should focus less on «society» & more on themselves

Work 16 hours a day, lift, tren/test, plastic surgery, hair transplant, veneers, fashionable, nice car etc etc

If you arent Even willing to do those steps in order to be desirable to non hoe girls then what is the point of life?

Video games & forums?
Might as well be dead

Life is about raising sons.
Source: history & hunan biology
You don't dictate what the point of life is for anyone but yourself.
post 1692202043 10-24-2023, 05:00 AM
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Originally Posted By ErnieMccracken
Yeah I'm sure your wife was a virgin bride and never had a train run on her at a frat party.
Just a reminder not every country is a third world chithole devoid of objective morality or social consequences, although living in the US I can understand why you’d view the world through that lens

Realise you are the problem, the rest of the non-clown world is relatively sane
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Originally Posted By 4everalone
If you cant Get a non hoe wife without doing those steps then its better to do the steps so you Can further your bloodline

Becoming a docile video game playing geek is worse than death If you Ask me
I understand your reasoning but even if you can continue your bloodline, it will end eventually anyway though, that's a fact. (and probably sooner than later if clown world continues)

In the end it's all cope, "muh bloodline" is just as much of a cope as MGTOW
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Originally Posted By r32gojirra
Just a reminder not every country is a third world chithole devoid of objective morality or social consequences, although living in the US I can understand why you’d view the world through that lens

Realise you are the problem, the rest of the non-clown world is relatively sane
I've been all over the world and realized that sloots gonna sloot, no matter where you are. Sloots in the middle east will literally risk their lives to sloot. Wild stuff.

And Australian women are some of the slootiest, most entitled hags in the world. Hope you weren't talking about them.
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Originally Posted By ErnieMccracken
I've been all over the world and realized that sloots gonna sloot, no matter where you are. Sloots in the middle east will literally risk their lives to sloot. Wild stuff.

And Australian women are some of the slootiest, most entitled hags in the world. Hope you weren't talking about them.
Nah. You haven’t.
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Like any philosophy, I feel it can be applied a number of different ways.


I have no doubt very successful men who bang hot women on the reg subscribe to the ideas, because they feel they get used by women, which they do, but I would also agree that incels would use it to cope.

That doesn’t devalue the message or anything.
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Originally Posted By r32gojirra
Nah. You haven’t.
Had to get more pages for my passport dfs
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Originally Posted By Ironface
What grown ass man genuinely doesn’t care about getting pussy

Seems like copium to me. I’d rather have access to regular sex and companionship than sitting alone in a lamborghini next to an empty passenger seat jerking off into a sock
You still get just as much pussy, you just don't put it on a pedestal.
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Originally Posted By QuickShotSteve
its a sign of low T at a minimum.

If you aren't craving pussy all day, every day, get your levels checked, srs.
It's the jestermaxxing sell their soul for a slight sniff of pussy betas who should get their test levels checked, not the MGTOWs.
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Most of the old men I know were mgtow before it was even a thing. My dad and 3 of his brothers all had families and all got divorced and never remarried or lived with a woman ever again. They still got pussy though.

Just because you don't want to deal with a females bullchit for the rest of your life doesn't make you an incel. Especially when you are older and discover pussy isn't some magical be all end all of life.
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Its a huge, embarrassing cope.
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It's what I would call a "neurotic solution". It's a solution to a problem, but the solution itself is not the healthiest or sound.
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Originally Posted By baldbrah
Most of the old men I know were mgtow before it was even a thing. My dad and 3 of his brothers all had families and all got divorced and never remarried or lived with a woman ever again. They still got pussy though.

Just because you don't want to deal with a females bullchit for the rest of your life doesn't make you an incel. Especially when you are older and discover pussy isn't some magical be all end all of life.
thats different. they got women and families and then went MGTOW. thats valid.

You cant be mgtow when you never got women in the first place like a lot of these guys are.
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Originally Posted By Ironface
What grown ass man genuinely doesn’t care about getting pussy

Seems like copium to me. I’d rather have access to regular sex and companionship than sitting alone in a lamborghini next to an empty passenger seat jerking off into a sock
MGTOW was started by older men that had been married and had kids and lost everything. They would go on forums and talk about their stories, found they had a lot in common, and formed a community around it.

As for your other points:

1. You're not getting "regular sex" when you're in a relationship. Sure, you'll get it a lot when you're in the puppy-dog phase of the relationship and you can't keep your hands off of each other, but in 3-5 years that drops off significantly. You'll be lucky to get it once per week and once she pops out babies it will be even less frequent.

2. If you have enough disposable income for a lambo you have enough money for an escort to get sex whenever you want which cannot be said for the dude thats been out of the honeymoon phase of the relationship, and whose wife has gained 40lbs since she no longer has to try to be attractive now that she's gotten married.

In a perfect world MGTOW shouldn't exist which is why i'm not a fan of it, but I 100% understand what a guy will go that route.
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Originally Posted By 4everalone
They should focus less on «society» & more on themselves

Work 16 hours a day, lift, tren/test, plastic surgery, hair transplant, veneers, fashionable, nice car etc etc

If you arent Even willing to do those steps in order to be desirable to non hoe girls then what is the point of life?

Video games & forums?
Might as well be dead

Life is about raising sons.
Source: history & hunan biology
I generally agree life sucks for most men who are alone, but women only want top men and we cant all be top men. So there's nothing these guys can do.

Why not rot.
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Originally Posted By BigBallsMcgee
thats different. they got women and families and then went MGTOW. thats valid.

You cant be mgtow when you never got women in the first place like a lot of these guys are.
Dicaprio, Nicholson, even Clooney for most of his life were mgtow. They aren't incel.

You can be mgtow and never have a wife or kids without being incel.
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