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post 1693625653 11-19-2023, 04:59 PM
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Srs question and leaves room for a decent debate conversation

In 1945 when the United States was the only power in the world to hold an atomic bomb do you think the world would have been better off if we just used that muscle to wipe out communism and make a one world order?

No conspiracy crap about how this already is one but just a hypothetical question.

What say you?
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post 1693626013 11-19-2023, 05:05 PM
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We couldn't have ended the Soviet Union even with nukes but I've had similar thoughts if it wouldn't have been better if we'd used them in Korea rather than allow a hostile authoritarian dictatorship to torture their people for decades and develop their own nuclear weapons.

We had 2 chances now first during the Korean war second immediately after they tested their first nuke.

A short story in a similar vein to what you propose:

https://metallicman.com/laoban4site/...obert-heinlein
post 1693626073 11-19-2023, 05:06 PM
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Bit hard to decimate countries you disagree with, with nukes, and wake up the next day feeling like a good guy.
post 1693626153 11-19-2023, 05:07 PM
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Originally Posted By latverian41
In 1945 when the United States was the only power in the world to hold an atomic bomb do you think the world would have been better off if we just used that muscle to wipe out communism and make a one world order?

No conspiracy crap about how this already is one but just a hypothetical question.

What say you?
That would clearly cause the US to be the bad guy and literally every country in the world would invade us.
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post 1693626313 11-19-2023, 05:10 PM
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No way you could have conquered the Soviet Union with the tiny fission bombs we had at the time.
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post 1693626353 11-19-2023, 05:11 PM
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Originally Posted By JackyChin
We couldn't have ended the Soviet Union even with nukes but I've had similar thoughts if it wouldn't have been better if we'd used them in Korea rather than allow a hostile authoritarian dictatorship to torture their people for decades and develop their own nuclear weapons.

We had 2 chances now first during the Korean war second immediately after they tested their first nuke.

A short story in a similar vein to what you propose:

https://metallicman.com/laoban4site/...obert-heinlein
Yes, truman should have listened to McArthur .

It's a terrible thing to drop that bomb but in the long run it would have saved.killons of lives and prevented millions from suffering..

Why do you think the soviet union. Would not have been beaten with the atomic bomb?

Germany had stallin defeated and all military historians agree with that right up till he halted the 1st army's drive . To Moscow and split it up to go for the oil fields Moscow was ready to fall. Stallin at that time was ready to cut a separate peace. If it had not been for the United States lend lease stalli. Would have sill been defeated. Same for england..


Gen Patton would vocally say we should have went after the soviets.

Sad thing is we took the benevolent road and did the right thing by not taking over with the atomic weapon but does anyone think for one minute of the roles had been reversed and the soviets passed it they would not have used to take what they wanted?
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post 1693626403 11-19-2023, 05:12 PM
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Originally Posted By LinuxJon
No way you could have conquered the Soviet Union with the tiny fission bombs we had at the time.
Bro the soviets were beaten. England was beaten. America saved both of them. France too for that matter
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post 1693627643 11-19-2023, 05:38 PM
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Originally Posted By latverian41
Bro the soviets were beaten. England was beaten. America saved both of them. France too for that matter
The Soviets were not beaten. They were racing us to Berlin.
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That would clearly cause the US to be the bad guy and literally every country in the world would invade us.
1) NK was the aggressor

2) How would they invade the world's only nuclear power, that had won WW2 less than a decade earlier?
post 1693627733 11-19-2023, 05:40 PM
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Originally Posted By JackyChin
The Soviets were not beaten. They were racing us to Berlin.



1) NK was the aggressor

2) How would they invade the world's only nuclear power, that had won WW2 less than a decade earlier?
Yeah towards the end of the war after lend lease and the United States were giving them almost every thing they needed. They were at the Brink of defeat . This is all fact you can vet bro.
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