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US Gun Laws: pulled over with long gun in trunk
What exactly are you supposed to do when a cop pulls you over with a long gun in your trunk. Assuming it's locked in a container and locked in the trunk + ammo locked in the trunk too, but in it's own separate container.
When a cop asks if you have any weapons do you just say no (sounds illegal af)? Sources online say to remain silent, so do I just ignore what he is saying and hand him my license and registration?
When a cop asks if you have any weapons do you just say no (sounds illegal af)? Sources online say to remain silent, so do I just ignore what he is saying and hand him my license and registration?
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Laws will vary by state. In Texas, if they ask, I would answer truthfully.
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11-21-2023, 08:01 AM
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In most states icluding ultra liberal ones if its unloaded and locked in a container in your trunk you're probably fine. Definitely check the laws though
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11-21-2023, 10:47 AM
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If it's a semi-auto long gun then you might have an issue.. usually boltys are good to go anywhere.
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I normally say this,
“I dont answer questions”
“I dont answer questions”
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11-21-2023, 11:02 AM
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Originally Posted By AccountingMajor⏩
If it's not loaded, then it's not a weapon...no different than a baseball bat you might have in the trunk.What exactly are you supposed to do when a cop pulls you over with a long gun in your trunk. Assuming it's locked in a container and locked in the trunk + ammo locked in the trunk too, but in it's own separate container.
When a cop asks if you have any weapons do you just say no (sounds illegal af)? Sources online say to remain silent, so do I just ignore what he is saying and hand him my license and registration?
When a cop asks if you have any weapons do you just say no (sounds illegal af)? Sources online say to remain silent, so do I just ignore what he is saying and hand him my license and registration?
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Originally Posted By RIKTER⏩
Blackguytouchinghisbrain.gifIf it's not loaded, then it's not a weapon...no different than a baseball bat you might have in the trunk.
Never thought about it like that. Damn at least that rationalizes it in my brain.
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Originally Posted By BullittEV⏩
Cop: Do you have any weapons on you?If it's a semi-auto long gun then you might have an issue.. usually boltys are good to go anywhere.
Me: no, all I have is a bolt-action rifle.
Would that be the response? Or would he immediately tell me he wants me to open my trunk to check?
I honestly don't know my rights when it comes to an unloaded locked rifle since everyone gives different advice.
My one friend told me to just be silent, and another said don't risk it and just tell the cops it's in your trunk and they will tell you to open it and take a look.
That blows if that's what has to happen.
11-21-2023, 11:26 AM
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Originally Posted By AccountingMajor⏩
Why would you say a bolt action rifle is not a weapon?Cop: Do you have any weapons on you?
Me: no, all I have is a bolt-action rifle.
Would that be the response? Or would he immediately tell me he wants me to open my trunk to check?
I honestly don't know my rights when it comes to an unloaded locked rifle since everyone gives different advice.
My one friend told me to just be silent, and another said don't risk it and just tell the cops it's in your trunk and they will tell you to open it and take a look.
That blows if that's what has to happen.
Me: no, all I have is a bolt-action rifle.
Would that be the response? Or would he immediately tell me he wants me to open my trunk to check?
I honestly don't know my rights when it comes to an unloaded locked rifle since everyone gives different advice.
My one friend told me to just be silent, and another said don't risk it and just tell the cops it's in your trunk and they will tell you to open it and take a look.
That blows if that's what has to happen.
You'd say, yes, I have a firearm in the vehicle. If the officer sees a locked case theres no probable cause to inspect it. If you've got a semi-auto weapon laying in the back then he's probably going to think thats weird and youre not following transportation procedures and start getting in your chit.
I've been pulled over before, wasnt checked.
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11-21-2023, 11:40 AM
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Originally Posted By AccountingMajor⏩
If you go silent or refuse to answer that's going to make them suspicious about you right off the bat and you'll probably end up being detained there for alot longer than you need to be.Cop: Do you have any weapons on you?
Me: no, all I have is a bolt-action rifle.
Would that be the response? Or would he immediately tell me he wants me to open my trunk to check?
I honestly don't know my rights when it comes to an unloaded locked rifle since everyone gives different advice.
My one friend told me to just be silent, and another said don't risk it and just tell the cops it's in your trunk and they will tell you to open it and take a look.
That blows if that's what has to happen.
Me: no, all I have is a bolt-action rifle.
Would that be the response? Or would he immediately tell me he wants me to open my trunk to check?
I honestly don't know my rights when it comes to an unloaded locked rifle since everyone gives different advice.
My one friend told me to just be silent, and another said don't risk it and just tell the cops it's in your trunk and they will tell you to open it and take a look.
That blows if that's what has to happen.
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Originally Posted By BullittEV⏩
Sounds good. You even live in Commiefornia. I just tell him I have an unloaded rifle locked in a container in my trunk, and that should be good enough?Why would you say a bolt action rifle is not a weapon?
You'd say, yes, I have a firearm in the vehicle. If the officer sees a locked case theres no probable cause to inspect it. If you've got a semi-auto weapon laying in the back then he's probably going to think thats weird and youre not following transportation procedures and start getting in your chit.
I've been pulled over before, wasnt checked.
You'd say, yes, I have a firearm in the vehicle. If the officer sees a locked case theres no probable cause to inspect it. If you've got a semi-auto weapon laying in the back then he's probably going to think thats weird and youre not following transportation procedures and start getting in your chit.
I've been pulled over before, wasnt checked.
If he asks to look at it, what do?
11-21-2023, 11:43 AM
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Originally Posted By monty097⏩
Yea, I'm more inclined to believe if I just don't answer and just hand him my license and registration, that I will get my ass thrown in jail or some chit.If you go silent or refuse to answer that's going to make them suspicious about you right off the bat and you'll probably end up being detained there for alot longer than you need to be.
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As above, specific laws vary by state. However, I'm a big fan of never answering a question that isn't asked, i.e. don't just blurt out the fact that you have a rifle in the trunk. But, if they specifically ask and you flat out lie or turn silent because muh rites, then you get what's potentially coming to you and that's on you. If what you're doing isn't illegal and you're not a complete douchebag about it, then you have nothing to worry about. If it's a super chitty cop just looking to bust balls, then you can address it in court should it come to that. Pleading your case to a cop who doesn't give a chit is like pleading your case to a ref in football that you weren't holding.
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Y’all know it’s your constitutional right not to answer questions right?
Right?????????
Right?????????
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Originally Posted By BlackJack619⏩
Yup. And more often than not I'm more interested in keeping it a minor inconvenience with 10 minutes out of my day, versus a major event I now need to deal with because I wanna stick it to the man by breaking out my pocket copy of the constitution to do a page turn reading with the traffic cop.Y’all know it’s your constitutional right not to answer questions right?
Right?????????
Right?????????
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11-21-2023, 11:57 AM
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Originally Posted By xxAchillesxx⏩
Okay now cops ask you to open your truck?Yup. And more often than not I'm more interested in keeping it a minor inconvenience with 10 minutes out of my day, versus a major event I now need to deal with because I wanna stick it to the man by breaking out my pocket copy of the constitution to do a page turn reading with the traffic cop.
Now what you gonnna do?
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Originally Posted By BlackJack619⏩
Tell him sure, and tell him he'll find a locked and stored rifle and locked and stored ammo in there.Okay now cops ask you to open your truck?
Now what you gonnna do?
Now what you gonnna do?
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Originally Posted By xxAchillesxx⏩
Now he ask to see inside the locked box,Tell him sure, and tell him he'll find a locked and stored rifle and locked and stored ammo in there.
What’s the next step?
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Originally Posted By BlackJack619⏩
Show him and talk shop for a minute or two about the rifle, then move on with my life. Ask me how I know.Now he ask to see inside the locked box,
What’s the next step?
What’s the next step?
What are you trying to get at? It's better to have a cop be uneasy and/or deal with a person who's being shady as fuk, over someone who's being respectful, compliant, and answering questions truthfully and clearly? You have fun. You do you, I'll do me.
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Originally Posted By xxAchillesxx⏩
What then happens if you forgot to update your rifle from one of the many new gun laws?Show him and talk shop for a minute or two about the rifle, then move on with my life. Ask me how I know.
What are you trying to get at? It's better to have a cop be uneasy and/or deal with a person who's being shady as fuk, over someone who's being respectful, compliant, and answering questions truthfully and clearly? You have fun. You do you, I'll do me.
What are you trying to get at? It's better to have a cop be uneasy and/or deal with a person who's being shady as fuk, over someone who's being respectful, compliant, and answering questions truthfully and clearly? You have fun. You do you, I'll do me.
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Originally Posted By BlackJack619⏩
You're branching off into weird hypothetical territory now. "Yea but what happens if the cop is actually a shady cop with crazy backroom drug deals and he needs to repay his debt to the prison boss by getting him some guns with serial numbers filed off and he decides to turn off his body cam (conveniently say it wasn't working), grabs the rifle and places it in his cruiser while saying 'she's coming with me chief'"?What then happens if you forgot to update your rifle from one of the many new gun laws?
So I don't know, I guess flip the cop off, jump back in my car, and peel out riding off into the sunset.
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Depends on the state. Had a cop pull me over in Texas and told him my firearm was in my center console where my insurance card was, but he didn't even care. LOL at living in a state where you can't have your ammo with your firearm. What's even the point of the firearm if you can't be near the ammo? (Super Ded fkN Srs)
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Originally Posted By xxAchillesxx⏩
I’m just saying you could have bought a long gun from the factory, and it could be considered illegal in some state; if you don’t modify it to be compliant for that state.You're branching off into weird hypothetical territory now. "Yea but what happens if the cop is actually a shady cop with crazy backroom drug deals and he needs to repay his debt to the prison boss by getting him some guns with serial numbers filed off and he decides to turn off his body cam (conveniently say it wasn't working), grabs the rifle and places it in his cruiser while saying 'she's coming with me chief'"?
So I don't know, I guess flip the cop off, jump back in my car, and peel out riding off into the sunset.
So I don't know, I guess flip the cop off, jump back in my car, and peel out riding off into the sunset.
I would rather exercise my rights;
If a cop thinks I’m being shady for exercising my rights that’s on him, I’m not responsible for their liberty but my own.
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Originally Posted By BlackJack619⏩
In which case you, as the owner, are responsible for following state laws, for whichever state you're in. Not the cop. If you don't like the laws, then you take it up with those who pass them, not those who enforce them. I have the right to march down broadway wearing nothing but tightie-whities and nipple clamps. Doesn't mean I'm going to do it. We're all different and different things hold higher priorities than others for each person. I'll pick and choose my battles as I see fit.I’m just saying you could have bought a long gun from the factory, and it could be considered illegal in some state; if you don’t modify it to be compliant for that state.
I would rather exercise my rights;
If a cop thinks I’m being shady for exercising my rights that’s on him, I’m not responsible for their liberty but my own.
I would rather exercise my rights;
If a cop thinks I’m being shady for exercising my rights that’s on him, I’m not responsible for their liberty but my own.
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Originally Posted By BlackJack619⏩
Tell them “ I do not give you permission to look in my vehicle “ .Okay now cops ask you to open your truck?
Now what you gonnna do?
Now what you gonnna do?
This way if they find anything,you’re not liable in court. Seen this on YouTube , doesn’t work in Canada of course , only the USA
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Originally Posted By gmenfan40⏩
What made up state is this that you are referencing?Depends on the state. Had a cop pull me over in Texas and told him my firearm was in my center console where my insurance card was, but he didn't even care. LOL at living in a state where you can't have your ammo with your firearm. What's even the point of the firearm if you can't be near the ammo? (Super Ded fkN Srs)
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Originally Posted By xxAchillesxx⏩
All due respect,In which case you, as the owner, are responsible for following state laws, for whichever state you're in. Not the cop. If you don't like the laws, then you take it up with those who pass them, not those who enforce them. I have the right to march down broadway wearing nothing but tightie-whities and nipple clamps. Doesn't mean I'm going to do it. We're all different and different things hold higher priorities than others for each person. I'll pick and choose my battles as I see fit.
You can lick boots all you want.
But, I’m not giving up my rights,
Because some commie enforcer thinks I’m shady for exercising them.
We need to educate the masses what their rights are before more are taken,
Telling people to give up their rights is a retarded boot licking thing to do.
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Originally Posted By BlackJack619⏩
Surely the best way to do so is by explaining to the cop why he's wrong.Because some commie enforcer thinks I’m shady for exercising them.
We need to educate the masses what their rights are before more are taken,
We need to educate the masses what their rights are before more are taken,
And sorry to say, I don't think saying that it's my own responsibility to understand and follow the laws while being a nonconfrontational respectful human being is considered boot licking. But, judging by how most of the misc feels about cops, I would expect nothing less.
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