11-25-2023, 11:51 AM
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Trades are one of the few things that I can't see getting replaced by AI. Knowledge jobs are going to get decimated.
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11-25-2023, 12:16 PM
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The fact is our public schools are mostly staffed by people with useless degrees or people who didn't make it after college. Institutionalized education is their field, so they promote it. They teach you from a young age that your income and wealth will be determined by your educational level within their instructional system based on the standards they created. A lot of these standards were established 100+ years ago. A lot of people pay them a lot of money to be told they are smarter and better.
True, trades usually have no or a low educational requirement to get in the door but to excel and make good money, that's another story. In fact, I'd say that in the trades, there is a less tolerance for error and higher penalties. If doctors were held at the standard of welders, there would be few doctors.
True, trades usually have no or a low educational requirement to get in the door but to excel and make good money, that's another story. In fact, I'd say that in the trades, there is a less tolerance for error and higher penalties. If doctors were held at the standard of welders, there would be few doctors.
11-25-2023, 01:31 PM
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Originally Posted By Jasonw1178⏩
Lot of truth here. I think most people if they immediately went into trades and went out on their own after learning would be far richer at 35 than 99% of college gradsThe fact is our public schools are mostly staffed by people with useless degrees or people who didn't make it after college. Institutionalized education is their field, so they promote it. They teach you from a young age that your income and wealth will be determined by your educational level within their instructional system based on the standards they created. A lot of these standards were established 100+ years ago. A lot of people pay them a lot of money to be told they are smarter and better.
True, trades usually have no or a low educational requirement to get in the door but to excel and make good money, that's another story. In fact, I'd say that in the trades, there is a less tolerance for error and higher penalties. If doctors were held at the standard of welders, there would be few doctors.
True, trades usually have no or a low educational requirement to get in the door but to excel and make good money, that's another story. In fact, I'd say that in the trades, there is a less tolerance for error and higher penalties. If doctors were held at the standard of welders, there would be few doctors.
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11-25-2023, 07:27 PM
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Originally Posted By Zere0wn⏩
That is more true than I'd like to admit. You either have idiots that will be wage slave employees at best or guys that can do the trade well and either make alot at their employer or make alot on their own.and most tradies are idiots so the good ones will be rich
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11-25-2023, 07:42 PM
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Originally Posted By Zere0wn⏩
Id say heavy industry is the better route if you are bright. going out on your own is most likely going to be a fail.Lot of truth here. I think most people if they immediately went into trades and went out on their own after learning would be far richer at 35 than 99% of college grads
smart tradies are rare as gold and quickly recognized, made foreman quick, and then superintendent. Then they avoid destroying their bodies by 40 like the run-of-the-mill tradie
11-25-2023, 07:43 PM
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11-25-2023, 07:56 PM
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Lmaooooo.
Does South Park ever get it wrong?
I made a thread recently where someone I know irl was basically quoted $500/hr to have sparkplugs changed by the dealer on an inline-4 hyundai.
My mind was obliterated.... Especially when u realize that 90% of the people who get that quote agree to it immediately.
Does South Park ever get it wrong?
I made a thread recently where someone I know irl was basically quoted $500/hr to have sparkplugs changed by the dealer on an inline-4 hyundai.
My mind was obliterated.... Especially when u realize that 90% of the people who get that quote agree to it immediately.
11-25-2023, 07:57 PM
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Originally Posted By gluon⏩
dude if you are competent you literally cannot fail going out on your own. you can't find anyone to do tradie work, demand is unlimited and the people that do it are all retiring. a competent tradie just charges whatever they wantId say heavy industry is the better route if you are bright. going out on your own is most likely going to be a fail.
smart tradies are rare as gold and quickly recognized, made foreman quick, and then superintendent. Then they avoid destroying their bodies by 40 like the run-of-the-mill tradie
smart tradies are rare as gold and quickly recognized, made foreman quick, and then superintendent. Then they avoid destroying their bodies by 40 like the run-of-the-mill tradie
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11-25-2023, 07:59 PM
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Originally Posted By HMFIC_BROWSIN⏩
never missesLmaooooo.
Does South Park ever get it wrong?
I made a thread recently where someone I know irl was basically quoted $500/hr to have sparkplugs changed by the dealer on an inline-4 hyundai.
My mind was obliterated.... Especially when u realize that 90% of the people who get that quote agree to it immediately.
Does South Park ever get it wrong?
I made a thread recently where someone I know irl was basically quoted $500/hr to have sparkplugs changed by the dealer on an inline-4 hyundai.
My mind was obliterated.... Especially when u realize that 90% of the people who get that quote agree to it immediately.
spark plugs are insanely easy to do too. at least on my straight 6 they are.
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11-25-2023, 08:01 PM
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Originally Posted By Zere0wn⏩
Yeah this was for an inline 4.... Took me below 30 minutes with tools I already have.never misses
spark plugs are insanely easy to do too. at least on my straight 6 they are.
spark plugs are insanely easy to do too. at least on my straight 6 they are.
Most new cars don't even come with a spare tire or jack because people just call a tow truck. It's absolutely insane.
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Originally Posted By HMFIC_BROWSIN⏩
Love that. I worked at my friends repair shop for a day and he would quote brake pads and rotor changes for all 4 for $500-600.Lmaooooo.
Does South Park ever get it wrong?
I made a thread recently where someone I know irl was basically quoted $500/hr to have sparkplugs changed by the dealer on an inline-4 hyundai.
My mind was obliterated.... Especially when u realize that 90% of the people who get that quote agree to it immediately.
Does South Park ever get it wrong?
I made a thread recently where someone I know irl was basically quoted $500/hr to have sparkplugs changed by the dealer on an inline-4 hyundai.
My mind was obliterated.... Especially when u realize that 90% of the people who get that quote agree to it immediately.
Easiest jobs that took less than an hour you could charge a lot because people simply didn't want to do them.
Wait until the EV cars start getting hit failures, dealers are gonna have a field day on the Teslacels asses.
11-25-2023, 08:15 PM
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Originally Posted By LuigiMiami631⏩
Yeah these fuarking spark plug tradies are charging more than a cardiologist to do something that even a woman could figure out with 10 minutes on youtube.Love that. I work at my friends repair shop for a day and he would quote brake pads and rotor changes for all 4 for $500-600.
Easiest jobs that took less than an hour you could charge a lot because people simply didn't want to do them.
Wait until the EV cars start getting hit, dealers are gonna have a field day on the Teslacels.
Easiest jobs that took less than an hour you could charge a lot because people simply didn't want to do them.
Wait until the EV cars start getting hit, dealers are gonna have a field day on the Teslacels.
I was thinking I could open a garage and only do spark plugs/brakes/oil change.... I think it must be the quickest path to millionaire status currently available on the planet.
I don't even.
11-25-2023, 08:18 PM
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Originally Posted By HMFIC_BROWSIN⏩
high schools should teach these basic life skillsYeah this was for an inline 4.... Took me below 30 minutes with tools I already have.
Most new cars don't even come with a spare tire or jack because people just call a tow truck. It's absolutely insane.
Most new cars don't even come with a spare tire or jack because people just call a tow truck. It's absolutely insane.
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11-25-2023, 08:19 PM
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Originally Posted By LuigiMiami631⏩
**** man. i got quoted $600 JUST FOR THE FRONT pads and rotors not too long ago. I laughed went home and got on rock auto, saved $400Love that. I worked at my friends repair shop for a day and he would quote brake pads and rotor changes for all 4 for $500-600.
Easiest jobs that took less than an hour you could charge a lot because people simply didn't want to do them.
Wait until the EV cars start getting hit failures, dealers are gonna have a field day on the Teslacels asses.
Easiest jobs that took less than an hour you could charge a lot because people simply didn't want to do them.
Wait until the EV cars start getting hit failures, dealers are gonna have a field day on the Teslacels asses.
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11-25-2023, 08:21 PM
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Originally Posted By HMFIC_BROWSIN⏩
that's a legitimately good idea. only do the stuff you know is quick and easy, charge $100 less than competitors.Yeah these fuarking spark plug tradies are charging more than a cardiologist to do something that even a woman could figure out with 10 minutes on youtube.
I was thinking I could open a garage and only do spark plugs/brakes/oil change.... I think it must be the quickest path to millionaire status currently available on the planet.
I don't even.
I was thinking I could open a garage and only do spark plugs/brakes/oil change.... I think it must be the quickest path to millionaire status currently available on the planet.
I don't even.
I calculate the hourly rate on some of this stuff after taking out material cost and it legitimately is doctor money. All from something you can learn to do on youtube in 2 hours. just because people don't want to get dirty / learn / have somewhere to do it.
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11-25-2023, 08:28 PM
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Originally Posted By Zere0wn⏩
Yeah even if I undercut the dealer by $200/hr, I'd still be making $300/hr on labor... That is absolutely insane lmao.that's a legitimately good idea. only do the stuff you know is quick and easy, charge $100 less than competitors.
I calculate the hourly rate on some of this stuff after taking out material cost and it legitimately is doctor money. All from something you can learn to do on youtube in 2 hours. just because people don't want to get dirty / learn / have somewhere to do it.
I calculate the hourly rate on some of this stuff after taking out material cost and it legitimately is doctor money. All from something you can learn to do on youtube in 2 hours. just because people don't want to get dirty / learn / have somewhere to do it.
11-25-2023, 08:40 PM
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Originally Posted By HMFIC_BROWSIN⏩
And I don't see anything making the problem better right now. People will barely work their work from home jobs. Let alone something physical. and if illegal immigration stops... that's a big supply of tradies removed.Yeah even if I undercut the dealer by $200/hr, I'd still be making $300/hr on labor... That is absolutely insane lmao.
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11-25-2023, 10:05 PM
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I can see this kind of thing happening in California or other beta western places but in the dirty south tradies are a dime a dozen every man I know has some sorta side job as a mechanic or landscaper or welder or something like that.
11-25-2023, 10:09 PM
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Originally Posted By tvr123⏩
Yup, about 90% of white collar officecels are going to lose their jobs to AI, while tradies will be banking bigly.Trades are one of the few things that I can't see getting replaced by AI. Knowledge jobs are going to get decimated.
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Originally Posted By tvr123⏩
Trades are one of the few things that I can't see getting replaced by AI. Knowledge jobs are going to get decimated.
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Originally Posted By anonkunbrah⏩
Lets talk about this one.It said the cost was half a million dollars. $500,000.00 up front.
Complex machinery like this requires a lot of maintenance and repairs, especially being in a construction environment. That work will be done by highly trained individuals which will not be cheap and it won't be often enough to keep someone on the job at all times so you'll a have to call in someone so until then it's downtime. No doubt any parts will need to be ordered, more downtime. Look into the gripes of farmers with John Deere tractors and equipment breaking down. As the equipment gets older it's going to only get more time consuming and expensive. After a few years that piece of machinery is going to be useless and worthless.
It says it needs an assistant but showed two. It's going to be a higher skill level so you are still paying someone, probably a few people.Looks like a lot of prep work to get it set up. Sure looks like it requires a whole lot of human intervention.
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11-26-2023, 06:38 AM
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I don't see AI making much of a dent in tradie jobs. But I could see technology improving making a lot of tradie jobs easier or bit less demand- such as a innovative roof type that lasts way longer and is tougher, cheaper, easier to install. You'd end up with a little less tradie jobs that way, but it won't be AI taking out entire divisions of employees.
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11-26-2023, 08:01 AM
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Originally Posted By Zere0wn⏩
This coming from a guy who can't even decide how he should charge his fkn car batteryand most tradies are idiots so the good ones will be rich
Misc gold right here
Buildings in nyc aren't put up by idiots

11-26-2023, 08:46 AM
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Originally Posted By HMFIC_BROWSIN⏩
As of right now, yes. To many people are complete fuking baffoons.Yeah these fuarking spark plug tradies are charging more than a cardiologist to do something that even a woman could figure out with 10 minutes on youtube.
I was thinking I could open a garage and only do spark plugs/brakes/oil change.... I think it must be the quickest path to millionaire status currently available on the planet.
I don't even.
I was thinking I could open a garage and only do spark plugs/brakes/oil change.... I think it must be the quickest path to millionaire status currently available on the planet.
I don't even.
Even in the white collar world that is being infested with women & men who couldn't even boil water to save their life.
This is why I am getting out of that world and into more mechanics. You can charge a shiit load just for an install.
Hell even a simple exhaust install starting from the headers to the mufflers is probably an hour job but could charge $300-400 for it.
11-26-2023, 09:06 AM
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Originally Posted By wasp9166⏩
dumbass can't tell the difference between "most" and "all" ****ing blocked for being retarded and wasting my time.This coming from a guy who can't even decide how he should charge his fkn car battery
Misc gold right here
Buildings in nyc aren't put up by idiots

Misc gold right here
Buildings in nyc aren't put up by idiots

guy obviously lives in a small bubble and has minimal real world experience
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