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Do you think most people put down 20% when buying a home?
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Do you think most people put down 20% when buying a home?
Just looking at how many people own pretty expensive homes these days, and observing their spending habits, it's hard to imagine people being able to afford $500k+ homes because that means they managed to save up $100k+ cash.
Is this generally the case or are people putting down like 5% typically?
I'm not talking about people buying cheap homes, I'm talking $500k+.
Reason I ask, is because saving that much money given the spending habits of the average american seems unlikely. Most americans finance their cars at retarded interest rates and have way too much credit card debt. How are they affording these downpayments? Is it usually that they have dual income which makes it easier?
Is this generally the case or are people putting down like 5% typically?
I'm not talking about people buying cheap homes, I'm talking $500k+.
Reason I ask, is because saving that much money given the spending habits of the average american seems unlikely. Most americans finance their cars at retarded interest rates and have way too much credit card debt. How are they affording these downpayments? Is it usually that they have dual income which makes it easier?
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No. The vast majority of people who come up with 20% cash down for a house either have their parents helping them, or rhey're changing houses and immediately dropping their equity on the old house into a big downpayment for a new one. Other than those, most people aren't putting massive amounts of cash down on homes.
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Originally Posted By JackyChin⏩
This usuallyNo, but their parents do
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Originally Posted By 1320it⏩
My dad put 5% down on a home in Texas a couple years ago, and it appreciated 50% atleast since then. I agree though, that's hardly any equity.5% down is barely any equity in the home.
People put 5% down because they don't have the 20% and maybe its cheaper than rent in the area they live.
People put 5% down because they don't have the 20% and maybe its cheaper than rent in the area they live.
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I put 25% down because fuk you.
12-05-2023, 08:13 PM
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Im trying to save 20% for my first home. Illinois housing prices not making it easy though
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Originally Posted By ~Hades~⏩
Wtf. Isn't that a ridiculously high payment these days though? Say I buy a home for $700k in a few years, 5% down would be $35,000. At 7% interest that's a $4,400 payment not even considering utilities, PMI, and property tax.I sell about 70 houses a year and no most people do not put down 20%. Most put down the absolute least which is anywhere from 0-5%
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No. Jooze making a killing selling PMI insurance.
One thing about governments is that no matter what law they pass outside of capital crimes, there is usually a monetary way around those laws.
One thing about governments is that no matter what law they pass outside of capital crimes, there is usually a monetary way around those laws.
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Originally Posted By TugOfPeace⏩
I'm guessing people buying $700k houses are able to put more down if you're spending that kind of $$.Wtf. Isn't that a ridiculously high payment these days though? Say I buy a home for $700k in a few years, 5% down would be $35,000. At 7% interest that's a $4,400 payment not even considering utilities, PMI, and property tax.
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Originally Posted By TugOfPeace⏩
At 700k the 5% down vs the 20% down is a difference of about $700. So probably not make or break for someone in that price range so it falls into the category of if they can make that money work harder than their interest rate, they willWtf. Isn't that a ridiculously high payment these days though? Say I buy a home for $700k in a few years, 5% down would be $35,000. At 7% interest that's a $4,400 payment not even considering utilities, PMI, and property tax.
I wanted to go back to edit my post to say that, in general, the higher the price point, you’re going to have people put down more because they have the means to but it’s not the rule.
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Originally Posted By kimm4⏩
Yes and no. The smart ones do. But after a while you find out that most people spend as much as they can and max out their budgets. Doesn’t matter if it’s a 70k buyer or 700k.I'm guessing people buying $700k houses are able to put more down if you're spending that kind of $$.
Early on I was very surprised by who could write checks for homes and who got loans. You just never know.
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highly doubt it. most are probably 0 3.5% or 5% down.
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Just lol at people putting down money. People right now can barely afford shiit because of their spending habits.
IF they are putting money down it is because they do OF or they sell drugs. Not because they have a good job.
Either that or you have the government offering their program of like 0% or something low down to get a mortgage. It is a program in California where they want lower income individuals to afford a home.
Lmfao, fuking california.
IF they are putting money down it is because they do OF or they sell drugs. Not because they have a good job.
Either that or you have the government offering their program of like 0% or something low down to get a mortgage. It is a program in California where they want lower income individuals to afford a home.
Lmfao, fuking california.
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the main reason people put 20% down is you avoid paying mortgage insurance (PMI). you can also downpay less like 5-10% and then pay up mortgage insurance in single payment as opposed to interest rate based monthly payment.
the way i see it is you pay enough downpayment to make your monthly payments you can afford after other expenses and then have enough for 6-12 months in case you ever lose job or emergency bills.
the way i see it is you pay enough downpayment to make your monthly payments you can afford after other expenses and then have enough for 6-12 months in case you ever lose job or emergency bills.
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I think anything under 20% automatically triggers PMI insurance, so selling that is probably the business to be in right now.
So imagine the bigger mortgage because of financing the entire amount, plus the PMI insurance, regular escrow, etc... wow, that must really as up to a high payment.
The right thing is always been to buy a house which comfortably is within your means and if you want to upgrade later on after building some good equity to roll into a next one, then do so. But most people always live on the edge of bankruptcy.
So imagine the bigger mortgage because of financing the entire amount, plus the PMI insurance, regular escrow, etc... wow, that must really as up to a high payment.
The right thing is always been to buy a house which comfortably is within your means and if you want to upgrade later on after building some good equity to roll into a next one, then do so. But most people always live on the edge of bankruptcy.
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Originally Posted By Nocturnal310⏩
I'm targeting a $700k home or so in a few years. Thinking to put $200-300k down between myself and whoever I'm banging at that time.the main reason people put 20% down is you avoid paying mortgage insurance (PMI). you can also downpay less like 5-10% and then pay up mortgage insurance in single payment as opposed to interest rate based monthly payment.
the way i see it is you pay enough downpayment to make your monthly payments you can afford after other expenses and then have enough for 6-12 months in case you ever lose job or emergency bills.
the way i see it is you pay enough downpayment to make your monthly payments you can afford after other expenses and then have enough for 6-12 months in case you ever lose job or emergency bills.
I'm just surprised that more people buy homes taking on such risk. 5% down, high interest rate, unstable job.. wtf. I wouldn't be comfortable buying a home unless I could easily survive for a couple years with no income AFTER purchasing it.
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Lmao if you're not putting 20% down in cash and the other 80% down in cash.
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Originally Posted By TugOfPeace⏩
Why so much? Is that normal for homes in your area?I'm targeting a $700k home or so in a few years. Thinking to put $200-300k down between myself and whoever I'm banging at that time.
I'm just surprised that more people buy homes taking on such risk. 5% down, high interest rate, unstable job.. wtf. I wouldn't be comfortable buying a home unless I could easily survive for a couple years with no income AFTER purchasing it.
I'm just surprised that more people buy homes taking on such risk. 5% down, high interest rate, unstable job.. wtf. I wouldn't be comfortable buying a home unless I could easily survive for a couple years with no income AFTER purchasing it.
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Originally Posted By kimm4⏩
its normal for really good homes in most suburbs i feel...look at any 5 bedroom plus with good materials used in construction and not wooden frame homes and price goes up..more stones, better bigger driveways and demographic of neighbors etc.Why so much? Is that normal for homes in your area?
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most people buy near top of their budget and certainly not 20% down. Maybe at most 10%.
The number the bank gets you is closer to double what you should actually buy. The average American consoomer though sees the most a bank is comfortable lending them as 'I can afford this', tries to fit that in with their already existing monthly car payment, and then cry about inflation and whoever is president for their own mistakes
The number the bank gets you is closer to double what you should actually buy. The average American consoomer though sees the most a bank is comfortable lending them as 'I can afford this', tries to fit that in with their already existing monthly car payment, and then cry about inflation and whoever is president for their own mistakes
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No way I'd put less than 20% down on a house
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No way I'd put less than 20% down on a house
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