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2024 will the the year of "UFO's/Aliens"
There have been talks for months now about UAP's/UFO's and the topic of NHI (non human intelligence) and the US being in possession of crafts.
David Grusch, former Intelligence Officer who's job was to find potential SAP (Special Access Programs) that were using government $$ illegally or without Congressional oversight, came out months ago saying that his findings led him to UFO crash retrieval programs. Over the course of a couple of years he was able to interview 40+ people who either worked within the program, had direct first hand access with the UFO crashes, or knew about the program and presented his findings to the Inspector General of the Intelligence Community who called the complaint "urgent and credible"
He ended up interviewing on Capital Hill (along with multiple of the people he interviewed) and gave his findings in an 11 hr closed door session. Seeing little movement being done behind the scenes, and suffering blowback/retaliation from what he had found and presented.. he decided to go public and then to go before Congress and testify under oath that we are indeed in possession of NHI crafts, and there is a program that is being run without Congressional oversight and therefore illegal
Fast forward months later, and Chuck Schumer (Democratic Majority Leader of the US Senate) along with Republican allies put together a massive UAP Disclosure Bill, that was a very big step forward into the US giving the American people more information about what they know when it comes to UFO's/UAP's
There was going to a be a Presidential elected review board who would have access and present the findings to the US people within 12 months, the US government would claim eminent domain on any "crafts" that they found or in possession of aerospace companies (Lockheed Martin), along with giving any company who is in possession of these crafts the ability to come forward without any punishment being handed down.
Unfortunately.. 2-3 House Republicans (Mike Turner... who's biggest donor just so happens to be Lockheed Martin) decided to remove multiple aspects of the bill which makes it harder for the Disclosure Bill to actually disclose much of anything.. anything that the government deems to be "Risk to National Security" will now be redacted and removed from any report given to us as citizens.
So... David Grusch and others are hitting the social spots that include Joe Rogan, Tucker Carlson, etc in order to get the public notice further out there. From multiple reporters, there will be actual first hand program employees who will come forward and speak to what they worked on and what they know
Grusch was apparently able to get DOPSR to approve information he had to specifically talk about his first hand knowledge about the UAP retrieval programs and is able to finally legally speak on those topics in the next week or so.
David Grusch, former Intelligence Officer who's job was to find potential SAP (Special Access Programs) that were using government $$ illegally or without Congressional oversight, came out months ago saying that his findings led him to UFO crash retrieval programs. Over the course of a couple of years he was able to interview 40+ people who either worked within the program, had direct first hand access with the UFO crashes, or knew about the program and presented his findings to the Inspector General of the Intelligence Community who called the complaint "urgent and credible"
He ended up interviewing on Capital Hill (along with multiple of the people he interviewed) and gave his findings in an 11 hr closed door session. Seeing little movement being done behind the scenes, and suffering blowback/retaliation from what he had found and presented.. he decided to go public and then to go before Congress and testify under oath that we are indeed in possession of NHI crafts, and there is a program that is being run without Congressional oversight and therefore illegal
Fast forward months later, and Chuck Schumer (Democratic Majority Leader of the US Senate) along with Republican allies put together a massive UAP Disclosure Bill, that was a very big step forward into the US giving the American people more information about what they know when it comes to UFO's/UAP's
There was going to a be a Presidential elected review board who would have access and present the findings to the US people within 12 months, the US government would claim eminent domain on any "crafts" that they found or in possession of aerospace companies (Lockheed Martin), along with giving any company who is in possession of these crafts the ability to come forward without any punishment being handed down.
Unfortunately.. 2-3 House Republicans (Mike Turner... who's biggest donor just so happens to be Lockheed Martin) decided to remove multiple aspects of the bill which makes it harder for the Disclosure Bill to actually disclose much of anything.. anything that the government deems to be "Risk to National Security" will now be redacted and removed from any report given to us as citizens.
So... David Grusch and others are hitting the social spots that include Joe Rogan, Tucker Carlson, etc in order to get the public notice further out there. From multiple reporters, there will be actual first hand program employees who will come forward and speak to what they worked on and what they know
Grusch was apparently able to get DOPSR to approve information he had to specifically talk about his first hand knowledge about the UAP retrieval programs and is able to finally legally speak on those topics in the next week or so.
12-13-2023, 09:40 PM
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5.2% payraise in there
great for us in national security
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12-13-2023, 09:42 PM
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He got a good point though, with UFO's they say that oral witness testimony "doesnt count" yet we will convict people of murder and sentence them to death or clear people of murder based on oral witness testimony all the time.
12-13-2023, 09:48 PM
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All these so called whistleblowers are actors.
Think about it.
This guy was a govt intel officer in charge of finding special access programs. most likely this is a pretty prestigious job with high level clearance. Obviously a contractor of some sort. So that tells us that he has to have some measure of education as well.
That means that even after he left that position , he could easily get a job doing something similar for the same or more money. A good solid job for sure.
Why would he risk all of that just to tell us about ufos and aliens of all things?
No one will hire the guy again for anything that comes close to anything classified as he has proven he cant be trusted to keep his mouth shut. So that leaves us with the question of why he would ruin his entire career and hiring potential for this? No ones moral compass is that strong to throw everything away so it really then has to boil down to money. he must be making a living somehow so what is it that he is doing? Is he running his own company looking for ufos? Who is paying him for that?
The answer is no one is. he is either lying and actor or both. Just like Bob lazar. Full of **** and cashing in on a cool job title he once had.
Think about it.
This guy was a govt intel officer in charge of finding special access programs. most likely this is a pretty prestigious job with high level clearance. Obviously a contractor of some sort. So that tells us that he has to have some measure of education as well.
That means that even after he left that position , he could easily get a job doing something similar for the same or more money. A good solid job for sure.
Why would he risk all of that just to tell us about ufos and aliens of all things?
No one will hire the guy again for anything that comes close to anything classified as he has proven he cant be trusted to keep his mouth shut. So that leaves us with the question of why he would ruin his entire career and hiring potential for this? No ones moral compass is that strong to throw everything away so it really then has to boil down to money. he must be making a living somehow so what is it that he is doing? Is he running his own company looking for ufos? Who is paying him for that?
The answer is no one is. he is either lying and actor or both. Just like Bob lazar. Full of **** and cashing in on a cool job title he once had.
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Nothing and I mean nothing will convince me that aliens and UFOs are real. I could be probed by little green men in a flying saucer and still won't believe it.
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I think it will be the year of a hot war with Russia. People like Hilary Clinton and Lindsey Graham have been talking about it for a decade. Something big will happen for sure.
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Originally Posted By crupiea⏩
Well he hasn't saidanythingabout classified information so far. Anything that he's stated has either been written into a story by the same people who wrote the NYT article about UFO's in 2017 where people were finally able to see the "Gimbal" and "Tic Tac" videos from Navy pilots, who talked to other people stating the same things as well.All these so called whistleblowers are actors.
Think about it.
This guy was a govt intel officer in charge of finding special access programs. most likely this is a pretty prestigious job with high level clearance. Obviously a contractor of some sort. So that tells us that he has to have some measure of education as well.
That means that even after he left that position , he could easily get a job doing something similar for the same or more money. A good solid job for sure.
Why would he risk all of that just to tell us about ufos and aliens of all things?
No one will hire the guy again for anything that comes close to anything classified as he has proven he cant be trusted to keep his mouth shut. So that leaves us with the question of why he would ruin his entire career and hiring potential for this? No ones moral compass is that strong to throw everything away so it really then has to boil down to money. he must be making a living somehow so what is it that he is doing? Is he running his own company looking for ufos? Who is paying him for that?
The answer is no one is. he is either lying and actor or both. Just like Bob lazar. Full of **** and cashing in on a cool job title he once had.
Think about it.
This guy was a govt intel officer in charge of finding special access programs. most likely this is a pretty prestigious job with high level clearance. Obviously a contractor of some sort. So that tells us that he has to have some measure of education as well.
That means that even after he left that position , he could easily get a job doing something similar for the same or more money. A good solid job for sure.
Why would he risk all of that just to tell us about ufos and aliens of all things?
No one will hire the guy again for anything that comes close to anything classified as he has proven he cant be trusted to keep his mouth shut. So that leaves us with the question of why he would ruin his entire career and hiring potential for this? No ones moral compass is that strong to throw everything away so it really then has to boil down to money. he must be making a living somehow so what is it that he is doing? Is he running his own company looking for ufos? Who is paying him for that?
The answer is no one is. he is either lying and actor or both. Just like Bob lazar. Full of **** and cashing in on a cool job title he once had.
So far..... his moral compass seems to literally be that strong. Everything he has done so far has been by the book and legal. He filed multiple WhistleBlower complaints to the ICIG,who did their own investigation and interviewing of 40+ peopleand found the information to be credible (The ICIG's own words)
People like you will say he's lying.... but which part? There have been MULTIPLE Congressmen/Senators that have all been saying the exact same thing for months now. That they have been briefed on this topic and there are multiple people within the government coming foward behind the scenes to say that we have a SAP and crash retrieval program where they have found crafts
And it isn't just him... Multiple reporters have verified with PEOPLE OTHER THAN THIS GUYS, that there are 12+ crafts that we are in possession of. Chuck Schumer didn't create an entire bill and get support from both sides of the aisle simply because some guy started talking on Joe Rogan
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Originally Posted By EvanStroud⏩
Statistically, life on other planets is a certainty. But little green men in UFO's flying around in our atmosphere for no discernable reason?Nothing and I mean nothing will convince me that aliens and UFOs are real. I could be probed by little green men in a flying saucer and still won't believe it.
There's no logic path at all that makes sense. You can't even past the first hurdle of there not being a single clear video or photograph in modern history.
Kinda weird the only place they hang out is the US and UK.

12-13-2023, 10:08 PM
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Originally Posted By ErnieMccracken⏩
This is an already debunked image. Those are reports being made WITHIN A SPECIFIC ORGANIZATION.Statistically, life on planets is a certainty. But little green men in UFO's flying around in our atmosphere for no discernable reason?
There's no logic path at all that makes sense. You can't even past the first hurdle of there not being a single clear video or photograph in modern history.
Kinda weird the only place they hang out is the US and UK.

There's no logic path at all that makes sense. You can't even past the first hurdle of there not being a single clear video or photograph in modern history.
Kinda weird the only place they hang out is the US and UK.

There are other organizations in other countries that gather and report in Asian countries (which is actually a big hotspot)
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Originally Posted By erniemccracken⏩
Nothing can convince mestatistically, life on other planets is a certainty.
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Drop pants to the ground at the urinal crew
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its all bogus
its always "I know a guy who" "I've been in contact with people who"
never "I worked with aliens n shiit"
and all ufo sightings are explained by experimental military technology
its always "I know a guy who" "I've been in contact with people who"
never "I worked with aliens n shiit"
and all ufo sightings are explained by experimental military technology
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Originally Posted By Jaydawg08⏩
Weird an organization that speaks english received most of their reports from the US and UK. Cant figure that one out.This is an already debunked image. Those are reports being made WITHIN A SPECIFIC ORGANIZATION.
There are other organizations in other countries that gather and report in Asian countries (which is actually a big hotspot)
There are other organizations in other countries that gather and report in Asian countries (which is actually a big hotspot)
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Originally Posted By batmanman⏩
experimental military technology cant do 90 degree high speed turns with no propulsion heat signature on IRits all bogus
its always "I know a guy who" "I've been in contact with people who"
never "I worked with aliens n shiit"
and all ufo sightings are explained by experimental military technology
its always "I know a guy who" "I've been in contact with people who"
never "I worked with aliens n shiit"
and all ufo sightings are explained by experimental military technology
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Originally Posted By batmanman⏩
If you know how anything in the military works... you don't test your equipment in secret during active military airspace when you have multiple MILLION $$ aircraft flying through there. There have been 13+ reported near miss instances with military aircraft from UAP's/UFO'sits all bogus
its always "I know a guy who" "I've been in contact with people who"
never "I worked with aliens n shiit"
and all ufo sightings are explained by experimental military technology
its always "I know a guy who" "I've been in contact with people who"
never "I worked with aliens n shiit"
and all ufo sightings are explained by experimental military technology
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Originally Posted By Jaydawg08⏩
Not aware of this. Is there a source? And where is the chinese map?This is an already debunked image. Those are reports being made WITHIN A SPECIFIC ORGANIZATION.
There are other organizations in other countries that gather and report in Asian countries (which is actually a big hotspot)
There are other organizations in other countries that gather and report in Asian countries (which is actually a big hotspot)
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Originally Posted By ErnieMccracken⏩
The image was simply a screenshot from a video made by reports being made to the NUFORC (National UFO Reporting Center) which is based in Washington State.. it was simply put together by a random Youtube channel based on the data collected by this non profit organization. The Chinese have their own, just the same as other countries.Not aware of this. Is there a source? And where is the chinese map?
I have a hard time imagining that some Russian guy sees a UFO, then decides to report it to NUFORC in the US. Same with a sighting in Ecuador
This isn't an official map of anything
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Originally Posted By elterrible987⏩
thats what you think you're seeingexperimental military technology cant do 90 degree high speed turns with no propulsion heat signature on IR
what you're seeing is the energy release from a positron beam being moved around
its just like if you point a laser pointer at a wall and wave it back and forth it looks like something is moving in that wall at like 300mph, now imagine being able to project an image like that in 3d space, which you can do with a proton or positron beam
does this sound like alien tech? well its not,we already use it for cancer treatment, a tool called "gamma knife" is used to direct energy release right at the spot of a brain tumor
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Originally Posted By Jaydawg08⏩
oh yes you doIf you know how anything in the military works... you don't test your equipment in secret during active military airspace when you have multiple MILLION $$ aircraft flying through there. There have been 13+ reported near miss instances with military aircraft from UAP's/UFO's
thats how you test how real people and equipment will react
no better subject than air force pilots
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Originally Posted By batmanman⏩
positron beams dont have radar returns retardthats what you think you're seeing
what you're seeing is the energy release from a positron beam being moved around
its just like if you point a laser pointer at a wall and wave it back and forth it looks like something is moving in that wall at like 300mph, now imagine being able to project an image like that in 3d space, which you can do with a proton or positron beam
does this sound like alien tech? well its not,we already use it for cancer treatment, a tool called "gamma knife" is used to direct energy release right at the spot of a brain tumor
what you're seeing is the energy release from a positron beam being moved around
its just like if you point a laser pointer at a wall and wave it back and forth it looks like something is moving in that wall at like 300mph, now imagine being able to project an image like that in 3d space, which you can do with a proton or positron beam
does this sound like alien tech? well its not,we already use it for cancer treatment, a tool called "gamma knife" is used to direct energy release right at the spot of a brain tumor
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I'd take alien overlords over our current administration
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Originally Posted By batmanman⏩
Lmao not with multi million $$ worth of machines in the air you don't. If they were to test these things it's not gonna be at the expense of their own aircraftoh yes you do
thats how you test how real people and equipment will react
no better subject than air force pilots
thats how you test how real people and equipment will react
no better subject than air force pilots
Adversaries? Maybe.. your own pilots daily during active military airspace? No
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The time has passed-he promised incredible revelations & evidence & like all the grifters before him produced nothing. He is just maxing out his earning potential-the UFO book, Media etc tours always have & always will have their core audience he can dine on for the rest of his days, the general public/mainstream he got a year or so out of.
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Originally Posted By Jaydawg08⏩
lol @ thinking the US gubmint cares about how much they spend of the taxpayer's moneyLmao not with multi million $$ worth of machines in the air you don't. If they were to test these things it's not gonna be at the expense of their own aircraft
Adversaries? Maybe.. your own pilots daily during active military airspace? No
Adversaries? Maybe.. your own pilots daily during active military airspace? No
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Originally Posted By ErnieMccracken⏩
the mara mara turkey incident is maybe the best UFO footage i've seen. 30 years old never debunked. no explanation after expert and govt have checked it out.Statistically, life on other planets is a certainty. But little green men in UFO's flying around in our atmosphere for no discernable reason?
There's no logic path at all that makes sense. You can't even past the first hurdle of there not being a single clear video or photograph in modern history.
Kinda weird the only place they hang out is the US and UK.

There's no logic path at all that makes sense. You can't even past the first hurdle of there not being a single clear video or photograph in modern history.
Kinda weird the only place they hang out is the US and UK.

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Originally Posted By batmanman⏩
I know a lot about the military and OP is 100% right here. There are all kinds of safety protocols in place during training exercises.lol @ thinking the US gubmint cares about how much they spend of the taxpayer's money
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