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01-07-2024, 02:12 PM
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Who the FOOK Would Want to Get on a Boeing Plane?
I'd love to be "Only Buy Amerikan" and "Amerikuh #1" and all that shiet.
But Airbus has proven far superior at this point, because they can keep their passengers alive.
Its absolute insanity that there hasn't been a huge backlash against Boeing planes at this point.
I think it hasn't happened yet because everyone still wants to drink the America #1 Kool-Aid.
Let's face it, Boeing has let us down.
But Airbus has proven far superior at this point, because they can keep their passengers alive.
Its absolute insanity that there hasn't been a huge backlash against Boeing planes at this point.
I think it hasn't happened yet because everyone still wants to drink the America #1 Kool-Aid.
Let's face it, Boeing has let us down.
01-07-2024, 02:39 PM
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import 3rd world engineers, end up with 3rd world airplanes.
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Only two of their newest models have failed. It's not like that's a big deal.
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01-07-2024, 02:48 PM
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Pilot here, I'll chime in.
Boing make some of the best plains I've ever had the pleasure of driving. One or two obscure manufacturing faults shouldn't put you off OP. Mistakes happen. I once had to fly a Airbus and the interior in those things is awful, you have to drive the whole plain using this cheap plastic joystick, its embarrassing. Boings have a YOLK which gives much more precision and finesse especially when making high speed turns. Flying from UAE to NY in my 747 tomorrow.
If it ain't Boing I'm not going
Boing make some of the best plains I've ever had the pleasure of driving. One or two obscure manufacturing faults shouldn't put you off OP. Mistakes happen. I once had to fly a Airbus and the interior in those things is awful, you have to drive the whole plain using this cheap plastic joystick, its embarrassing. Boings have a YOLK which gives much more precision and finesse especially when making high speed turns. Flying from UAE to NY in my 747 tomorrow.
If it ain't Boing I'm not going
01-07-2024, 03:07 PM
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Originally Posted By OneLegSquats⏩
Claim to be a pilotPilot here, I'll chime in.
Boing make some of the best plains I've ever had the pleasure of driving. One or two obscure manufacturing faults shouldn't put you off OP. Mistakes happen. I once had to fly a Airbus and the interior in those things is awful, you have to drive the whole plain using this cheap plastic joystick, its embarrassing. Boings have a YOLK which gives much more precision and finesse especially when making high speed turns. Flying from UAE to NY in my 747 tomorrow.
If it ain't Boing I'm not going
Boing make some of the best plains I've ever had the pleasure of driving. One or two obscure manufacturing faults shouldn't put you off OP. Mistakes happen. I once had to fly a Airbus and the interior in those things is awful, you have to drive the whole plain using this cheap plastic joystick, its embarrassing. Boings have a YOLK which gives much more precision and finesse especially when making high speed turns. Flying from UAE to NY in my 747 tomorrow.
If it ain't Boing I'm not going
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01-07-2024, 03:10 PM
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Originally Posted By HMFIC_BROWSIN⏩
I'm not sure the engineers are to blame here. Seems more like capitalism after a deep dive into the issues. Since Boeing "bought" McDonnell Douglas and the bean counters with their focus on shareholder return have been in charge (taking Boeing further and further away from being a great engineering company) things have gone downhill.import 3rd world engineers, end up with 3rd world airplanes.
There's a great book about this: Emerging from Turbulence: Boeing and Stories of the American Workplace Today
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01-07-2024, 03:16 PM
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Originally Posted By OneLegSquats⏩
Which Airbus did you have to fly once? Were you using Flight Simulator?Pilot here, I'll chime in.
Boing make some of the best plains I've ever had the pleasure of driving. One or two obscure manufacturing faults shouldn't put you off OP. Mistakes happen. I once had to fly a Airbus and the interior in those things is awful, you have to drive the whole plain using this cheap plastic joystick, its embarrassing. Boings have a YOLK which gives much more precision and finesse especially when making high speed turns. Flying from UAE to NY in my 747 tomorrow.
If it ain't Boing I'm not going
Boing make some of the best plains I've ever had the pleasure of driving. One or two obscure manufacturing faults shouldn't put you off OP. Mistakes happen. I once had to fly a Airbus and the interior in those things is awful, you have to drive the whole plain using this cheap plastic joystick, its embarrassing. Boings have a YOLK which gives much more precision and finesse especially when making high speed turns. Flying from UAE to NY in my 747 tomorrow.
If it ain't Boing I'm not going
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01-07-2024, 03:19 PM
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One can only imagine the scrutiny about to be directed at the QA/QC of these planes right now
Was watching one video about this earlier where they cited a similar incident happened in the 1990s where incorrect bolts were used, most people don’t appreciate what goes into this chit from metallurgical quality assurance to weld inspections and bolt torque procedures etc. This shouldn’t even be affected by things like drive for profitability if the correct procedures are in place and properly regulated
Was watching one video about this earlier where they cited a similar incident happened in the 1990s where incorrect bolts were used, most people don’t appreciate what goes into this chit from metallurgical quality assurance to weld inspections and bolt torque procedures etc. This shouldn’t even be affected by things like drive for profitability if the correct procedures are in place and properly regulated
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Originally Posted By Destor⏩
You are correct.One can only imagine the scrutiny about to be directed at the QA/QC of these planes right now
Was watching one video about this earlier where they cited a similar incident happened in the 1990s where incorrect bolts were used, most people don’t appreciate what goes into this chit from metallurgical quality assurance to weld inspections and bolt torque procedures etc. This shouldn’t even be affected by things like drive for profitability if the correct procedures are in place and properly regulated
Was watching one video about this earlier where they cited a similar incident happened in the 1990s where incorrect bolts were used, most people don’t appreciate what goes into this chit from metallurgical quality assurance to weld inspections and bolt torque procedures etc. This shouldn’t even be affected by things like drive for profitability if the correct procedures are in place and properly regulated
Part of the recent issues, IMO, is that in days gone by Boeing saved $ by convincing the FAA that they could self-certify some of the designs. And then the 737 Max debacle happened partly as a result of that.
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01-07-2024, 03:28 PM
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Originally Posted By PlanoLifter⏩
Used to fly the A380 for EmiratesWhich Airbus did you have to fly once? Were you using Flight Simulator?
01-07-2024, 03:31 PM
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Are you talking about the incident from yesterday where the window panel blew open during the flight? I'm wondering how the hell that could have happened
01-07-2024, 03:40 PM
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Originally Posted By Briangumble⏩
Just speculation on my part : improper assembly or improper fasteners used.Are you talking about the incident from yesterday where the window panel blew open during the flight? I'm wondering how the hell that could have happened
https://www.pbs.org/newshour/nation/...nother-blowout
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01-07-2024, 03:45 PM
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Aviation is going through a rough patch right now.
Basically what happened is from 2001-2015 or so there was very little grown in US commercial aviation due to 9-11 followed by the great recession.
Due to this the whole industry became boomer-heavy while very few new people got trained in these jobs.
Now all the boomers are retiring and there are no mid-level people to replace them.
This is affecting pilots, skilled workers, maintainers, ATC, design, basically everybody.
I'm guessing the guy who attached that panel on the Alaska flight will be found to be inexperienced and improperly trained.
Basically what happened is from 2001-2015 or so there was very little grown in US commercial aviation due to 9-11 followed by the great recession.
Due to this the whole industry became boomer-heavy while very few new people got trained in these jobs.
Now all the boomers are retiring and there are no mid-level people to replace them.
This is affecting pilots, skilled workers, maintainers, ATC, design, basically everybody.
I'm guessing the guy who attached that panel on the Alaska flight will be found to be inexperienced and improperly trained.
01-07-2024, 03:47 PM
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Originally Posted By HMFIC_BROWSIN⏩
Boeing has very few H1B Visa filings for a company of their size.import 3rd world engineers, end up with 3rd world airplanes.
You guys have Diversity Derangement Syndrome.
Not every problem in this world has to do with gender or race.
01-07-2024, 04:03 PM
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Originally Posted By GatorBoy92⏩
In Boeing's case it's mostly due to muh shareholder value and penny pinching and senior management covering up issues.Boeing has very few H1B Visa filings for a company of their size.
You guys have Diversity Derangement Syndrome.
Not every problem in this world has to do with gender or race.
You guys have Diversity Derangement Syndrome.
Not every problem in this world has to do with gender or race.
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01-07-2024, 04:40 PM
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Originally Posted By 128⏩
Lol they should only be allowed to drive the luggage cars. Actually maybe not they tend to steal stuffEnding meritocracy so America can look more like a Netflix original is going to get people killed

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I think Cessna is the worst. If you hear about a small plane going down it's always a fukking Cessna.
Couldn't pay me to get into one
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Originally Posted By GatorBoy92⏩
No, we really don't. This is a real smooth brain response.Boeing has very few H1B Visa filings for a company of their size.
You guys have Diversity Derangement Syndrome.
Not every problem in this world has to do with gender or race.
You guys have Diversity Derangement Syndrome.
Not every problem in this world has to do with gender or race.
Boeing just uses a subcontractor who applies for all the H1B visas.
Straight from the Bloomberg article posted above your post:
Increasingly, the iconic American planemakerand its subcontractors have relied on temporary workers making as little as $9 an hour to develop and test software, often from countries lacking a deep background in aerospace -- notably India.
In offices across from Seattle’s Boeing Field, recent college graduatesemployed by the Indian software developer HCL Technologies Ltd. occupied several rows of desks, said Mark Rabin, a former Boeing software engineer who worked in a flight-test group that supported the Max.
The coders from HCL were typically designing to specifications set by Boeing. Still, “it was controversial because it was far less efficient than Boeing engineers just writing the code,” Rabin said. Frequently, he recalled, “it took many rounds going back and forth because the code was not done correctly.”
Now, let's look at how many H1B visas HCL Technologies applied for in 2023:In offices across from Seattle’s Boeing Field, recent college graduatesemployed by the Indian software developer HCL Technologies Ltd. occupied several rows of desks, said Mark Rabin, a former Boeing software engineer who worked in a flight-test group that supported the Max.
The coders from HCL were typically designing to specifications set by Boeing. Still, “it was controversial because it was far less efficient than Boeing engineers just writing the code,” Rabin said. Frequently, he recalled, “it took many rounds going back and forth because the code was not done correctly.”
HCL America INC filed 3,648 H1B LCAs in fiscal year 2023, of which 3,624 were approved and 0 were denied.
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I always fly the 787 dreamliner on international flights. I fkn love that plane. Mogs every airbus
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Originally Posted By lnvictus⏩
Fuk flying. I just spent the whole last night researching airplane disasters hat are posted as list in wikipedia
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Airbus is definitely far superior but unfortunately you don't get to choose your airplane make/model when booking a flight
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01-08-2024, 08:04 AM
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its because there are FAR more cessna's in the air than any other GA brand.I think Cessna is the worst. If you hear about a small plane going down it's always a fukking Cessna.
Couldn't pay me to get into one
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30,000,000+ GA flight hours a year in the US and usually around 300 fatalities.
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Originally Posted By Retoaded⏩
Not to mention a lot of them date back to the 50s/60s.its because there are FAR more cessna's in the air than any other GA brand.
30,000,000+ GA flight hours a year in the US and usually around 300 fatalities.
30,000,000+ GA flight hours a year in the US and usually around 300 fatalities.
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How would you boycott Boing? (SRS)
The consoomer peasant doesnt have any say in this. When you book a flight, you dont get to choose or even see what plane will be used. Only after booking.
So you pay extra for flex/free cancelation? And if it turns out to be a Boing plane you cancel your flights?
Then what? You book a new flight blindly, pay extra to be able to cancel and surprise, it's a Boing again.
Rinse and repeat ten times until you get a flight with a different plane stated in your info email. Turn up to the airport 6 months later and it's a fkkn Boing after all because they're probably the cheapest to buy.
Brb never flying again.
The consoomer peasant doesnt have any say in this. When you book a flight, you dont get to choose or even see what plane will be used. Only after booking.
So you pay extra for flex/free cancelation? And if it turns out to be a Boing plane you cancel your flights?
Then what? You book a new flight blindly, pay extra to be able to cancel and surprise, it's a Boing again.
Rinse and repeat ten times until you get a flight with a different plane stated in your info email. Turn up to the airport 6 months later and it's a fkkn Boing after all because they're probably the cheapest to buy.
Brb never flying again.
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