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post 1696246143 01-11-2024, 08:57 PM
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So when does Elden Ring get good?

I'm at about 10 hours played and level 30 and I'm just running aimlessly through Stormveil Castle. Found myself fighting some big blob monster in what I guess is a Courtyard behind some rats. The fight is incredibly stupid as the monster clips through walls constantly and is janky as all fuk with his inferno explosion.

And after I died to him twice I found myself asking "when does this game become fun?"

So I ask you G&T. At what point does Elden Ring get fun? Or is just always a slogfest?
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post 1696249123 01-11-2024, 10:35 PM
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Git gud.
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It's just difficulty porn for the kinda people who obsess over FromSoft. Either you enjoy the punishment or it's not for you. Their games have always been for the masochistic types that really take pride in their prowess at this one type of video game.
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Originally Posted By BearyManilowe
I'm at about 10 hours played and level 30 and I'm just running aimlessly through Stormveil Castle. Found myself fighting some big blob monster in what I guess is a Courtyard behind some rats. The fight is incredibly stupid as the monster clips through walls constantly and is janky as all fuk with his inferno explosion.

And after I died to him twice I found myself asking "when does this game become fun?"

So I ask you G&T. At what point does Elden Ring get fun? Or is just always a slogfest?
This is basically your entire playthrough. The world is huge and the only meaningful "secrets" you really discover while exploring are new enemies to fight. Then, you reach a main area where a boss resides and you fight your way through that area to reach and beat the boss. My issue is that for world this size there aren't any stories or side quests that add anything particularly unique or different other than just more fighting. There are side quests but they don't explain much and often leave you confused where to go or what to do. The game is impossible to really complete without going online to read chit up and I really disliked that part about it. Maybe it works in a linear game format where eventually you can find where to go but in an open world it was very frustrating because I don't use guides.

So yeah imo it's a good game but not amazing as most people say. You can experiment with different builds but the combat never really feels "next gen" or different to all the previous souls games. Also, I appreciate a good story and with all the hype about GRRM writing this game I really expected one....esp in a huge open world game that takes 100+ hours to beat. The last third of the game was a large difficulty spike and a massive slog to get through and by the time I was at the end I really had no sense of why I'm even here, fighting a final boss I'm seeing for the very first time who did nothing to antagonize me for the entire journey leading up to that moment. Sorry if that's a spoiler but I felt no sense of accomplishment finishing the game other than the fact that I beat a very difficult boss... Something I already did 50+ times before lol.
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Lies of P is a better game. srs
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The enjoyment is in thechallengeOP. FromSoft games are pretty unforgiving and you will die a lot. If you don’t derive enjoyment from that sorta thing then you’ll struggle to appreciate the game.

It’s old school.
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When you fall off a cliff and loose all your sh

From soft games are unnecessarily rage inducing

Not why I game
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Kena > Elden Ring
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Cool that people love such games, but just not for me(trial and error). I am done with that stage of my gaming life.

I tried Demon Souls back then in PS3 and not for me. So maybe it is not for you as well?
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Originally Posted By OptimusTrajan
Git gud.
Okay will try that.
Originally Posted By JayJ350
It's just difficulty porn for the kinda people who obsess over FromSoft. Either you enjoy the punishment or it's not for you. Their games have always been for the masochistic types that really take pride in their prowess at this one type of video game.
Yeah sure I could see that if the game was "hard" but it feels like the difficulty is just pattern recognition and bullet sponge enemies.
Originally Posted By Coal
This is basically your entire playthrough. The world is huge and the only meaningful "secrets" you really discover while exploring are new enemies to fight. Then, you reach a main area where a boss resides and you fight your way through that area to reach and beat the boss. My issue is that for world this size there aren't any stories or side quests that add anything particularly unique or different other than just more fighting. There are side quests but they don't explain much and often leave you confused where to go or what to do. The game is impossible to really complete without going online to read chit up and I really disliked that part about it. Maybe it works in a linear game format where eventually you can find where to go but in an open world it was very frustrating because I don't use guides.

So yeah imo it's a good game but not amazing as most people say. You can experiment with different builds but the combat never really feels "next gen" or different to all the previous souls games. Also, I appreciate a good story and with all the hype about GRRM writing this game I really expected one....esp in a huge open world game that takes 100+ hours to beat. The last third of the game was a large difficulty spike and a massive slog to get through and by the time I was at the end I really had no sense of why I'm even here, fighting a final boss I'm seeing for the very first time who did nothing to antagonize me for the entire journey leading up to that moment. Sorry if that's a spoiler but I felt no sense of accomplishment finishing the game other than the fact that I beat a very difficult boss... Something I already did 50+ times before lol.
I think this probably sums it up best for me. What is the Elden Ring? Why do I care? Who is this loser fighting me and why?
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Lies of P is a better game. srs
Have that installed. Maybe that's my next step. I enjoy souls-likes (Jedi Survivor, Ghost of Tsushi, I did enjoy Sekiro, God of War, etc) where there is a discernable story. Maybe the lack of narrative is actually really grinding on me.
Originally Posted By alltrapbrah
The enjoyment is in thechallengeOP. FromSoft games are pretty unforgiving and you will die a lot. If you don’t derive enjoyment from that sorta thing then you’ll struggle to appreciate the game.

It’s old school.
Maybe I'll struggle, because I'm more looking for fun.
Originally Posted By wasp9166
When you fall off a cliff and loose all your sh

From soft games are unnecessarily rage inducing

Not why I game
Yeah the loss of everything is frustrating, but not game breaking for me. That part doesn't bother me as much.
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Kena > Elden Ring
Haven't heard anyone cap for Kena. Maybe I'll try it.
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Cool that people love such games, but just not for me(trial and error). I am done with that stage of my gaming life.

I tried Demon Souls back then in PS3 and not for me. So maybe it is not for you as well?
Starting to think that. I think I need more meat on the bone from the storytelling side.
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Originally Posted By BearyManilowe
Yeah sure I could see that if the game was "hard" but it feels like the difficulty is just pattern recognition and bullet sponge enemies.
Oh definitely. It's not much different from a lot of hardcore action games and FPS out there really, just learning how and when to dodge fast and how and when to strike with the dedication to slowly hack away at a massive health bar. I just find that kinda gaming really boring though, and at worst frustrating. Games like these just really appeal to a particular skillset and gamer. The whole gitgud thing and all the pride surrounding these titles is kinda funny though since a lot of the people who are great at these games probably suck at no shortage of other difficult games from different genres.
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Originally Posted By BearyManilowe
Starting to think that. I think I need more meat on the bone from the storytelling side.
After playing during the whole NES/SNES era where it is trial and error and/or no story, these days I prefer games with deep story, unless it is multiplayer.

This is why I couldn't get into battle royale shooters and such. Just not for me.
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Originally Posted By BearyManilowe
Yeah sure I could see that if the game was "hard" but it feels like the difficulty is just pattern recognition and bullet sponge enemies.
Whether it is an FPS, StarCraft, SoulsBorne, Mario Kart, platformers, etc, the solution is always tomaster a particular skill set for that game.

SoulsBorne games are all about pattern recognition, timing and developing quick reactions. I think racers, fighting games and FPS titles also reward similar skills. This kinda thing really suits me, but it may not suit you.

I never developed a taste of RTS games, because the skill set just isn’t my cup of tea and I felt no inclination to get good.
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I thought it was interesting, but after I beat that grafter guy I quit. Game has no story and no real progression.

Bloodborne was far better.
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Few tips

1. Anything without a boss health bar can be avoided. You can literally sprint past most enemies.

2. Vigor is the most important stat to level at first. The soft cap is 40. I'd go 2/1 ratio of vigor and whatever other stat you want

3. Weapon levels buff your stats faster than attribute point. Get smithing stones and upgrade your weapons regularly.

4. Don't rush straight for the main bosses. You can find great items and level up a lot form just exploring and finding chit. Take your time

5. Early game, southern Limgrave will be great for leveling. Don't know if you've been already, but definitely scour that area for some upgrades.

6. If you haven't already, return to the Church of Elleh to get a very helpful item for bosses.

7. If you're having trouble, summon people to help out. Co op is a fun time.

8. Your first 'soulslike' game is usually the hardest. There's a point in which everything just clicks, and things get much easier. It'll still beat your ass sometimes, but not NEARLY as often.

9. Last, but not least; git gud
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I thought it was interesting, but after I beat that grafter guy I quit. Game has no story and no real progression.

Bloodborne was far better.
ER has no story, but BB does? They both tell the story the same way.

Everything went to chit, items and NPC's give you bits of lore, and you're out to kill a God and fix chit.
Originally Posted By ChristmasFnatic
Cool that people love such games, but just not for me(trial and error). I am done with that stage of my gaming life.

I tried Demon Souls back then in PS3 and not for me. So maybe it is not for you as well?
Demon Souls is inferior to the others imo.
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Originally Posted By BearyManilowe
I think this probably sums it up best for me. What is the Elden Ring? Why do I care? Who is this loser fighting me and why?
The Elden Ring is the source of power behind the Golden Order, the law up the land before the shattering. One night, assassins killed one of Queen Marika's kids (gotta play more to find out why), she threw a bitch fit, and shattered the ring. She disappeared, and each of her kids ended up with a shard from the ring. Most of them waged war with each other for power after that. Now many years later, you, a tarnished that was once banished for losing grace (favor of the will of the golden order), can now see the light of grace again, and are tasked with collecting the runes and restoring the golden order, a task bestowed upon you by the greater will (the force behind the golden order. outer god basically), and to become the next Elden Lord.

So now you're traveling through a land decimated by war on a quest by an outer God to restore the land back to what it wants it to be like, so you got some collecting (killing) to do.
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Originally Posted By Muzzlrpress
The Elden Ring is the source of power behind the Golden Order, the law up the land before the shattering. One night, assassins killed one of Queen Marika's kids (gotta play more to find out why), she threw a bitch fit, and shattered the ring. She disappeared, and each of her kids ended up with a shard from the ring. Most of them waged war with each other for power after that. Now many years later, you, a tarnished that was once banished for losing grace (favor of the will of the golden order), can now see the light of grace again, and are tasked with collecting the runes and restoring the golden order, a task bestowed upon you by the greater will (the force behind the golden order. outer god basically), and to become the next Elden Lord.

So now you're traveling through a land decimated by war on a quest by an outer God to restore the land back to what it wants it to be like, so you got some collecting (killing) to do.
I thought that was cool when I looked it up and they could have made a great story on it. Like imagine a whole delve into the story of Radahn for example... Just dripping with possibility. But the sad part is you and I both looked up the story online based on what a bunch of nerds have pieced together and even then there is no true consensus on many of the events. The last parts of the game especially were confusing as hell to me. How was I supposed to know who TF the last boss was and how he related to the story at all? Lol I shouldn't have to spend a day reading online to know about the game I spent months playing.
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Originally Posted By Coal
I thought that was cool when I looked it up and they could have made a great story on it. Like imagine a whole delve into the story of Radahn for example... Just dripping with possibility. But the sad part is you and I both looked up the story online based on what a bunch of nerds have pieced together and even then there is no true consensus on many of the events. The last parts of the game especially were confusing as hell to me. How was I supposed to know who TF the last boss was and how he related to the story at all? Lol I shouldn't have to spend a day reading online to know about the game I spent months playing.
I'm usually nervous about video game adaptations, but I think the backstory would make an awesome TV series.
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Originally Posted By Muzzlrpress
I'm usually nervous about video game adaptations, but I think the backstory would make an awesome TV series.
I agree. Super cool backstory and I would have loved to see a fully written story in this game along with the current ER combat. Definitely a great setting and lore for a TV show as well. Put GRRM to flesh it out and we have a winner.
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Originally Posted By Coal
I agree. Super cool backstory and I would have loved to see a fully written story in this game along with the current ER combat. Definitely a great setting and lore for a TV show as well. Put GRRM to flesh it out and we have a winner.
If he went balls deep into it like the first few seasons of GoT, we'd have a hit on our hands.
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Originally Posted By Muzzlrpress
If he went balls deep into it like the first few seasons of GoT, we'd have a hit on our hands.
Fuark imagine you make a story where you play as a Tarnished but you live in a super fleshed out world with different supporting casts and maybe factions of other Tarnished. They could develop conflicts and various mini stories like in Game of Thrones but each season has a different area with a demigod boss who is the main villain that fuks with you in different ways. Eg one season will be exploring the magic academy lands and Rennala fuking with you through sorcery. Another season would be you facing a super imposing giant general Radahn who has an army etc. The whole build up to each season would be your journey getting more powerful and the skills you learn to defeat the boss at the end. That would keep each season super fresh while bukding up the main storyline leading to the end.

Fuarking hell what a sick idea for a TV show, chiet son.
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Originally Posted By Coal
Fuark imagine you make a story where you play as a Tarnished but you live in a super fleshed out world with different supporting casts and maybe factions of other Tarnished. They could develop conflicts and various mini stories like in Game of Thrones but each season has a different area with a demigod boss who is the main villain that fuks with you in different ways. Eg one season will be exploring the magic academy lands and Rennala fuking with you through sorcery. Another season would be you facing a super imposing giant general Radahn who has an army etc. The whole build up to each season would be your journey getting more powerful and the skills you learn to defeat the boss at the end. That would keep each season super fresh while bukding up the main storyline leading to the end.

Fuarking hell what a sick idea for a TV show, chiet son.
I'd rather the building of the Golden order all the way up to the shattering. Then in the series finale, you fast forward several hundred years and the final scene is the opening to ER.
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The thing you are fighting I don't think you are supposed to fight that early.

If you are stuck, turn around and go finish storm veil, you can come back and fight that later.
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Originally Posted By stayhomeneet
The thing you are fighting I don't think you are supposed to fight that early.

If you are stuck, turn around and go finish storm veil, you can come back and fight that later.
I think I killed it after Godrick when I came back to clean out the castle.
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you should've got Armoured Core, Elden Ring is a 'wait for the bargain bin' game.
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Originally Posted By mgftp
Kena > Elden Ring
this x100
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Originally Posted By BearyManilowe
I'm at about 10 hours played and level 30 and I'm just running aimlessly through Stormveil Castle. Found myself fighting some big blob monster in what I guess is a Courtyard behind some rats. The fight is incredibly stupid as the monster clips through walls constantly and is janky as all fuk with his inferno explosion.

And after I died to him twice I found myself asking "when does this game become fun?"

So I ask you G&T. At what point does Elden Ring get fun? Or is just always a slogfest?
Imagine being 10 hours in and only up to stormveil castle, when I was able to complete the game and get all achievements in 45 hours.

Get good, or go back to your Ubisoft open world games.
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Originally Posted By ChristmasFnatic
After playing during the whole NES/SNES era where it is trial and error and/or no story, these days I prefer games with deep story, unless it is multiplayer.

This is why I couldn't get into battle royale shooters and such. Just not for me.
this. i played hundreds of hours of that stuff when i was a kid.dont have the patience anymore.i dont find them hard just tedious. might replay bloodborne if i get bored enough
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