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post 1696582063 01-18-2024, 02:07 PM
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Biden 'winning' 2020 debate plus making voters think Trump spreading Russian disinfo

https://streamable.com/j3y7qy

1. Biden during the debates people consider he largely won, saying Trump was spreading Russian lies and the IAs backed him
2. Biden says the laptop story is "classic Trump", a huge lie and misinformation, it's Russian
3. Biden laughs at the idea the laptop is Hunter's
4, 5 Repeat (Trump lying, not true, Russians)

This week in court, Hunter admitted it was his.

Some of you with hatred for Trump, how much of it is over situations like this? Where the media and/or Democrats make such a big deal out of something he's saying, which later quietly turns out to have been correct?
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All of this election nonsense is pure entertainment for me. I don’t have any feelings towards the politics of it, because it is all lies and show.

Nothing Biden does surprises me either. He’s corrupt, like all of his cohorts in Congress. He’s consistent.

Trump on the other hand. He’s just an idiot grifter. I don’t think it’s him that annoys me, even though his low IQ, mixed with how loud he is, makes him pretty easy to dislike.

His cult following is the real problem. The rationalization and spin to defend him in all situations is nothing I’ve seen before. I don’t know if it’s being flat out naive or just plain being stupid.

Those are the people that need to be laughed at and mocked.
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My hatred for Trump has nothing to do with the media. All has to do with the dog chit coming directly from his mouth. The cherry on top is seeing people praising him the way they do, like being successfully conned by the con man.
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Originally Posted By OPGenesis⏩
All of this election nonsense is pure entertainment for me. I don’t have any feelings towards the politics of it, because it is all lies and show.

Nothing Biden does surprises me either. He’s corrupt, like all of his cohorts in Congress. He’s consistent.

Trump on the other hand. He’s just an idiot grifter. I don’t think it’s him that annoys me, even though his low IQ, mixed with how loud he is, makes him pretty easy to dislike.

His cult following is the real problem. The rationalization and spin to defend him in all situations is nothing I’ve seen before. I don’t know if it’s being flat out naive or just plain being stupid.

Those are the people that need to be laughed at and mocked.
Originally Posted By georgeenoob⏩
My hatred for Trump has nothing to do with the media. All has to do with the dog chit coming directly from his mouth. The cherry on top is seeing people praising him the way they do, like being successfully conned by the con man.
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Originally Posted By OPGenesis⏩
All of this election nonsense is pure entertainment for me.
Speaking for myself, I've never had any real problem with a position like yours, whether I fully agree with it or not. I don't consider Trump a drooling idiot but outside of that your description of him isn't far off. He's a loud New York yank, constantly self-promoting, etc...

Not sure what I think about his followers, or 'cult' as you described it. On one hand, I'm past personally getting worked by any politician. Just ends in two bad ways, either they are grifting or very rarely they are not (and the system crushes them, ala Ron Paul). Still, people get behind most candidates, Joe was kind of the exception. He won by being silent and just not being Trump, IMO

While Trump has a big following -- some of it are just people who hear the constant bullchit against him and don't buy it. And, speaking of cults, the anti-Trump people are often just completely off-base, if not deranged, with the stuff against Trump and over and over they take it hook, line and sinker every time. Never admitting they had it wrong once months or years later it comes out how it was false -- much like the attacks the Democrats and Biden made against Trump itt. At the time they say it, the media runs with it, his haters believe it entirely and by the time the smoke clears and it was all a big lie -- never once have I seen anyone recognize it or hold anyone accountable for anything.

Who is holding Joe accountable here? Who is calling him a boldfaced liar? Who is admitting they believed him and are now upset at being lied to?

It's like nobody cares. Talk about a cult.
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post 1696585813 01-18-2024, 03:30 PM
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0:23 the reporter, you know the unbiased person who is just supposed to talk about current events, snorts over the notion Joe Biden is in any way corrupt. Then the 'expert' to explain to voters why the laptop story is fake Russian disinfo.

Not a one-off, this is every fuking story they run.
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Originally Posted By JUSA⏩
Speaking for myself, I've never had any real problem with a position like yours, whether I fully agree with it or not. I don't consider Trump a drooling idiot but outside of that your description of him isn't far off. He's a loud New York yank, constantly self-promoting, etc...

Not sure what I think about his followers, or 'cult' as you described it. On one hand, I'm past personally getting worked by any politician. Just ends in two bad ways, either they are grifting or very rarely they are not (and the system crushes them, ala Ron Paul). Still, people get behind most candidates, Joe was kind of the exception. He won by being silent and just not being Trump, IMO

While Trump has a big following -- some of it are just people who hear the constant bullchit against him and don't buy it. And, speaking of cults, the anti-Trump people are often just completely off-base, if not deranged, with the stuff against Trump and over and over they take it hook, line and sinker every time. Never admitting they had it wrong once months or years later it comes out how it was false -- much like the attacks the Democrats and Biden made against Trump itt. At the time they say it, the media runs with it, his haters believe it entirely and by the time the smoke clears and it was all a big lie -- never once have I seen anyone recognize it or hold anyone accountable for anything.

Who is holding Joe accountable here? Who is calling him a boldfaced liar? Who is admitting they believed him and are now upset at being lied to?

It's like nobody cares. Talk about a cult.
With Biden you know what you're getting though. He's just another corrupt politician making his way though four years. He doesn't really have a cult following. Nobody is out there defending him or putting stock into what he says. Half the time the media isn't even in his favor. He gets a decent amount of negative press coverage with his poor performance, which isn't even noteworthy. He's just a fall guy for the uber wealthy behind the scenes who really make the calls on how society is going to be engineered.

Who is going to hold him accountable? Nobody. He belongs to a different class of people who don't need to follow laws or be held accountable. That's just life, and the way civilization always structures itself.

Trump on the other hand? lol. 90% of his followers actually think he was sent by god to defeat the deep state in their name. All he has to do is make some over the top promises he can never follow through on, and his followers buy it hook, line and sinker every time.

Just look at some of the recent threads in the r/p as of late. "Trump is going to enact mass deportations day one", "Trump will never allow CBDC's", blah blah blah. None of that is going to happen. The guy said he was going to deport all the illegals in 2015. Nothing. When CBDC's are a thing, Trump will say "Look at my big beautiful CBDC", like the vaccines. Then his followers will spin it as something miraculous.

It is mind-boggling after seeing him fail for four years people are still acting like we're in 2015.
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Originally Posted By JUSA⏩
Who is holding Joe accountable here? Who is calling him a boldfaced liar? Who is admitting they believed him and are now upset at being lied to?

It's like nobody cares. Talk about a cult.
Both are politicians seeking votes so it's in their nature to lie. Difference is Trump doesn't stfu. He's like everything you hate about a politician x1000.
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Originally Posted By OPGenesis⏩
All of this election nonsense is pure entertainment for me. I don’t have any feelings towards the politics of it, because it is all lies and show.

Nothing Biden does surprises me either. He’s corrupt, like all of his cohorts in Congress. He’s consistent.

Trump on the other hand. He’s just an idiot grifter. I don’t think it’s him that annoys me, even though his low IQ, mixed with how loud he is, makes him pretty easy to dislike.

His cult following is the real problem. The rationalization and spin to defend him in all situations is nothing I’ve seen before. I don’t know if it’s being flat out naive or just plain being stupid.

Those are the people that need to be laughed at and mocked.
But the blue-no-matter-who cult that elected a demented ped0phile doesn't need to be laughed at and mocked?

At the end of the day, Trump being a grifter is a gdsend. The left has gone so far off the reservation toward p3dophilia, gender insanity, open borders, warmongering, and climate cult worship that the right would elect LiTeRaLlY hItLeR (someone far more aggressive, authoritarian, and fascist than we have yet seen in American politics) if it means ending the insanity. The left created this situation with the culture war.
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Originally Posted By OPGenesis⏩
With Biden you know what you're getting though. He's just another corrupt politician making his way though four years. He doesn't really have a cult following. Nobody is out there defending him or putting stock into what he says. Half the time the media isn't even in his favor. He gets a decent amount of negative press coverage with his poor performance, which isn't even noteworthy. He's just a fall guy for the uber wealthy behind the scenes who really make the calls on how society is going to be engineered.

Who is going to hold him accountable? Nobody. He belongs to a different class of people who don't need to follow laws or be held accountable. That's just life, and the way civilization always structures itself.

Trump on the other hand? lol. 90% of his followers actually think he was sent by god to defeat the deep state in their name. All he has to do is make some over the top promises he can never follow through on, and his followers buy it hook, line and sinker every time.

Just look at some of the recent threads in the r/p as of late. "Trump is going to enact mass deportations day one", "Trump will never allow CBDC's", blah blah blah. None of that is going to happen. The guy said he was going to deport all the illegals in 2015. Nothing. When CBDC's are a thing, Trump will say "Look at my big beautiful CBDC", like the vaccines. Then his followers will spin it as something miraculous.

It is mind-boggling after seeing him fail for four years people are still acting like we're in 2015.
Exactly. No one's breaking in the Capitol by the hundreds if Biden doesn't get elected.
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Originally Posted By NuggzTheNinja⏩
But the blue-no-matter-who cult that elected a demented ped0phile doesn't need to be laughed at and mocked?
No, because the votes weren't for Biden. They were out of spite of hatred for the fat, orange cocksucker lol.

Look at what is going on now. Nikki Haley could beat Biden, regardless what you think about her. Trump can't beat Biden.

Trump is going to lose by 20 million this go around.

Enjoy your token primary win though lol. At the end of the day Trump is finished. All that needs to happen is a little vote manipulation here and there, and he's done. The social engineers have been strategizing for this for years.


2015 isn't happening ever again.
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post 1696586453 01-18-2024, 03:42 PM
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Originally Posted By georgeenoob⏩
Both are politicians seeking votes so it's in their nature to lie. Difference is Trump doesn't stfu. He's like everything you hate about a politician x1000.
To OPG above, I'm past thinking Trump will enact most of what he talks about - although I think the direction of the country was better 2016-2020 and that there are many things his own party shut him down over. Still, it's hard to get past his abominations of non-judge appointments, how you can wrap your mind around him being earnest in draining the swamp and then appointing nothing but them throughout his administration...

George, for me he isn't what I hate about politicians. Politicians speak like lawyers and pretend they are the most wholesome, honest and decent people alive while the media goes along with it (see the video where the reporter acts shocked anyone could possibly question Joe Biden's integrity). Trump's flaws are much more overt and nobody in the media covers for that. While many of his followers ignore or accept them, few people pretend Trump isn't a narcissist, self-obsessed and such. I myself, I honestly do not really care all that much. Beats kid-diddling, drug abuse and sex orgies.
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Originally Posted By JUSA⏩
To OPG above, I'm past thinking Trump will enact most of what he talks about - although I think the direction of the country was better 2016-2020 and that there are many things his own party shut him down over. Still, it's hard to get past his abominations of non-judge appointments, how you can wrap your mind around him being earnest in draining the swamp and then appointing nothing but them throughout his administration...

George, for me he isn't what I hate about politicians. Politicians speak like lawyers and pretend they are the most wholesome, honest and decent people alive while the media goes along with it (see the video where the reporter acts shocked anyone could possibly question Joe Biden's integrity). Trump's flaws are much more overt and nobody in the media covers for that. While many of his followers ignore or accept them, few people pretend Trump isn't a narcissist, self-obsessed and such. I myself, I honestly do not really care all that much. Beats kid-diddling, drug abuse and sex orgies.
The direction of the country when Trump was president is a matter of perspective I think.

In reality he didn't do much of anything.

He pumped a stock market and real estate bubble with a massive amount of debt, gave us 10% inflation, destroyed the energy markets, pumped the military with massive budgets and pushed covert wars against countries he didn't like (Iran, Venezuela, was providing weapons to western Ukraine), and was massively indecisive with positions on Covid. He didn't have any real values or positions he stood by. He was anti 2nd amendment, subsidized the hell out of big tech, which was censoring everything left and right, cut taxes for the rich to speculate in asset markets, called for unlimited legal immigration, hired the worst people imaginable ......

Yet his cult following is still going on about the Trump train and how the deep state is in trouble haha.


Look @ the VP thing. He's right back where he left off, and all you get is Trumpkin cope.
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Originally Posted By OPGenesis⏩
The direction of the country when Trump was president is a matter of perspective I think.

In reality he didn't do much of anything.

He pumped a stock market and real estate bubble with a massive amount of debt, gave us 10% inflation, destroyed the energy markets, pumped the military with massive budgets and pushed covert wars against countries he didn't like (Iran, Venezuela, was providing weapons to western Ukraine), and was massively indecisive with positions on Covid. He didn't have any real values or positions he stood by. He was anti 2nd amendment, subsidized the hell out of big tech, which was censoring everything left and right, cut taxes for the rich to speculate in asset markets, called for unlimited legal immigration, hired the worst people imaginable ......

Yet his cult following is still going on about the Trump train and how the deep state is in trouble haha.


Look @ the VP thing. He's right back where he left off, and all you get is Trumpkin cope.
He really wasn’t far off from being a typical Republican president policy-wise. The only difference was his big mouth and social media chit talking. And he was a bit less war hawkish (but by no means the non-interventionist his supporters want you to believe he is, he still had neocon tendencies)

Regarding electability, I think he’s a disaster and I like riling up the Blumpfies as much as the next guy, but I’ll be honest and say that I do think he has a slight chance to win again. But, it’s unlikely. He’s a big underdog. I’d say he has around a 20% chance of winning. That’s the same chance he had against Hillary, though. But I really don’t see him winning any of the states he lost in 2020. He has to pray for low turnout, but that’s doubtful.
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He really wasn’t far off from being a typical Republican president policy-wise. The only difference was his big mouth and social media chit talking. And he was a bit less war hawkish (but by no means the non-interventionist his supporters want you to believe he is, he still had neocon tendencies)

Regarding electability, I think he’s a disaster and I like riling up the Blumpfies as much as the next guy, but I’ll be honest and say that I do think he has a slight chance to win again. But, it’s unlikely. He’s a big underdog. I’d say he has around a 20% chance of winning. That’s the same chance he had against Hillary, though. But I really don’t see him winning any of the states he lost in 2020. He has to pray for low turnout, but that’s doubtful.
His term was standard neocon. Huge deficits to support a dying economy, bloated military budgets that benefit nobody but military contractors, and tax cuts for the wealthy that didn’t even get GDP over 3% annually.

It was a joke.
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Originally Posted By OPGenesis⏩
All of this election nonsense is pure entertainment for me. I don’t have any feelings towards the politics of it, because it is all lies and show.

Nothing Biden does surprises me either. He’s corrupt, like all of his cohorts in Congress. He’s consistent.

Trump on the other hand. He’s just an idiot grifter.I don’t think it’s him that annoys me, even though his low IQ, mixed with how loud he is, makes him pretty easy to dislike.

His cult following is the real problem. The rationalization and spin to defend him in all situations is nothing I’ve seen before. I don’t know if it’s being flat out naive or just plain being stupid.

Those are the people that need to be laughed at and mocked.




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Originally Posted By georgeenoob⏩
Exactly. No one's breaking in the Capitol by the hundreds if Biden doesn't get elected.
No just burning down cities, killing police officers unlike Jan 6th when the people didn’t kill any officers and then avoiding prosecution because Kamala is going to bail you out
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No just burning down cities, killing police officers unlike Jan 6th when the people didn’t kill any officers and then avoiding prosecution because Kamala is going to bail you out
I didn’t know support for Biden was the root cause of those riots.

Why was Trump so ecstatic about the BLM endorsement? Why didn’t he reject and condemn them?
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Originally Posted By OPGenesis⏩
No, because the votes weren't for Biden. They were out of spite of hatred for the fat, orange cocksucker lol.

Look at what is going on now. Nikki Haley could beat Biden, regardless what you think about her. Trump can't beat Biden.

Trump is going to lose by 20 million this go around.

Enjoy your token primary win though lol. At the end of the day Trump is finished. All that needs to happen is a little vote manipulation here and there, and he's done. The social engineers have been strategizing for this for years.


2015 isn't happening ever again.
The Trump fart smell has dissipated a bit in the last few years though, and now it's mixed with Biden's smell of death.

My take is that not many people want to be in a room that smells like farts and death.

But I think Trump can probably convince more of his voters into the room this time around than Biden can.

Anyway, that's my analysis of the 2024 election.
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The main reason for the neo-red scare is because the establishment doesn't want to accept that Clinton lost because people are sick of the neoliberal order. Both Bernie and Trump's successes were extremely clear evidence of this, but so much energy goes into preventing people from seeing that it's literally dizzying at times.

It's fantastically naive to not see that Russia obviously has something on Trump but the boogie-man treatment it's getting is comical.
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Originally Posted By squanto⏩
The main reason for the neo-red scare is because the establishment doesn't want to accept that Clinton lost because people are sick of the neoliberal order. Both Bernie and Trump's successes were extremely clear evidence of this, but so much energy goes into preventing people from seeing that it's literally dizzying at times.

It's fantastically naive to not see that Russia obviously has something on Trump but the boogie-man treatment it's getting is comical.
This is where I fall off. I sincerely believe there ain’t much between Trump and Russia. It’s an embarrassing talking point after the whole Mueller thing.

And I hate Trump.

Unless there is some information I can’t find.
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post 1696599213 01-18-2024, 08:32 PM
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Originally Posted By freeheeler⏩
No just burning down cities, killing police officers unlike Jan 6th when the people didn’t kill any officers and then avoiding prosecution because Kamala is going to bail you out
The BLM protests had to do with police shooting black ppl, nothing to do with Biden nor Trump. But you already knew that didn't you?
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Originally Posted By georgeenoob⏩
The BLM protests had to do with police doing their job, nothing to do with Biden nor Trump. But you already knew that didn't you?
Fixed for you
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Trump getting ethered in a debate is nothing new. Outside of cute little nicknames he gives his opponents, he has nothing of substance.


Still known for canceling a debate against Joe Biden after that humiliating first debate in 2020. 😂
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