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post 1697039043 01-27-2024, 02:58 PM
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How do Democrats honestly believe it's Republicans allowing the migrants into the US?

I firmly believe both sides are responsible for the mass immigration issue, and we can see that with the funding of the organizations bringing the migrants here.

But I am seeing some weird ass narrative from Democrats that it's Republicans who are responsible for the border security issue.

I know Democrat voters are the gold standard of stupid, it's the hallmark of today's Democratic Party, but how many mental gymnastics can one honestly jump through to think the flights of migrants around the country, the paid accommodations to house migrants in hotels, and the mass intake of unverified asylum seekers by the Executive Branch being an entirely Republican caused problem?
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post 1697039443 01-27-2024, 03:03 PM
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Obviously it's both.


Cuckservatives want the monopolists to have all the cheap labor they will in race-to-the-bottom neoliberalism.


Dems want them for their congressional districts and out of hatred for whitey.


Really rock bottom tiered stuff.
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post 1697040463 01-27-2024, 03:18 PM
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It's taken a long time to get here, and on the way, both parties have been in control at various times.

If this is so clearly a D v. R thing, why aren't the 271 Republican Senators and Congressmen standing together on the steps somewhere, waving the solution at the cameras and singing God Bless America?

If you want to get chit done and win elections that's how you do it.
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It's a spun narrative simple as that. The winds have shifted and now even New York is calling for something to be done. If there was any interest in protecting our borders, it could start today though, no bills required. Actually force companies to adhere to EVerify. Actually deport illegals on the spot. There are already laws on the books that can clean the system up, TPTB just refuse to let them be followed.
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post 1697041143 01-27-2024, 03:30 PM
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Originally Posted By XterraRob
But I am seeing some weird ass narrative from Democrats that it's Republicans who are responsible for the border security issue.
It's because Biden constantly lies and says he needs a new border bill to give him 'new emergency authority' to shutdown the border, and Republicans are holding up the bill. And dumbass libs actually believe that.

Truth is, he doesn't need a new bill to stop the invasion. He already has 296 executive orders to open up the border, including undoing 89 of Trump's policies on the border.
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Originally Posted By gwg77
It's because Biden constantly lies and says he needs a new border bill to give him 'new emergency authority' to shutdown the border, and Republicans are holding up the bill. And dumbass libs actually believe that.

Truth is, he doesn't need a new bill to stop the invasion. He already has 296 executive orders to open up the border, including undoing 89 of Trump's policies on the border.
Just confirms my suspicions that Reddit serves as a brainwashing/propaganda medium for stupid people.
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post 1697041993 01-27-2024, 03:48 PM
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Originally Posted By XterraRob
Just confirms my suspicions that Reddit serves as a brainwashing/propaganda medium for stupid people.
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post 1697042413 01-27-2024, 03:57 PM
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Originally Posted By XterraRob
Just confirms my suspicions that Reddit serves as a brainwashing/propaganda medium for stupid people.
Goes both ways.

Patriots.win, Conservative Treehouse, and Breitbart host some on the most despicable and low iq people in the planet.

If you need proof just go to the comment sections. Hillary was actually right with some of these people. They’re not even people. They are fanatics.
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post 1697042623 01-27-2024, 04:00 PM
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If they aren't killing illegals on sight, then they're with the illegals.
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"I know Democrat voters are the gold standard of stupid, it's the hallmark of today's Democratic Party"

So then make your boring speech, no need to engage them ever; we call that an echo chamber.
To ask them questions would make you a hypocrite, since....."I know Democrat voters are the gold standard of stupid, it's the hallmark of today's Democratic Party"
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Originally Posted By x-trainer
"I know Democrat voters are the gold standard of stupid, it's the hallmark of today's Democratic Party"

So then make your boring speech, no need to engage them ever; we call that an echo chamber.
To ask them questions would make you a hypocrite, since....."I know Democrat voters are the gold standard of stupid, it's the hallmark of today's Democratic Party"
You're the gold standard of stupid.

I recently responded to you, asking questions, and you just screeched about how I should be "asking you questions" (which is exactly what I was doing).
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Originally Posted By x-trainer
"I know Democrat voters are the gold standard of stupid, it's the hallmark of today's Democratic Party"

echo chamber

"I know Democrat voters are the gold standard of stupid, it's the hallmark of today's Democratic Party"
Thank you for the extra echo
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post 1697044993 01-27-2024, 04:53 PM
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That's usually what happens when democrats can't ignore the problem anymore


Blame the other side for what they are responsible for because they know their voters won't question their narrative


Then the parrots come out in droves to repeat
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post 1697045563 01-27-2024, 05:02 PM
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Originally Posted By bluebeltATT
That's usually what happens when democrats can't ignore the problem anymore


Blame the other side for what they are responsible for because they know their voters won't question their narrative


Then the parrots come out in droves to repeat
So, the border issue is all the Dems doing? lol


Cuckservative daddy Reagan started amnesty for illegals....


then the sequel.


George W. Bush and Mexican Immigration Policy
https://www.cairn.info/revue-francai...-3-page-70.htm

Shortly after his inauguration as President of the United States, George W. Bush announced on January 25, 2001, that his first trip out of the country would be to Mexico to meet with Vicente Fox, that country’s recently elected President. Bush’s explicit goal was to make good on his campaign promise that if he were elected President he would forge a “special relationship” with Mexico, akin to that which the United States has long enjoyed with Britain. At the center of this relationship was the thorny issue of immigration, the movement of Mexican workers into the United States, both legally and illegally, and more importantly, their treatment and fate in the US. For seven years the Bush administration tried to make good on its promise to draft legislation that would guarantee the unfettered movement of cheap Mexican labor into the United States and to secure it through routes to American citizenship. In the end, President Bush failed. On June 28, 2007, the United States Senate did not muster the necessary sixty votes for cloture, which would have ended debate on the immigration reform bill Bush had championed. President Bush’s much touted signal domestic administrative reform failed largely because of resistance from members of his own Republican Party.


But, but, but ONLY DEMS. ALL BIDENS FAULT.


D D D RUMPF WILL SAVE US!
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post 1697045813 01-27-2024, 05:07 PM
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Originally Posted By OPGenesis
But, but, but ONLY DEMS. ALL BIDENS FAULT.


D D D RUMPF WILL SAVE US!
So...what's your point? Trump supporters, generally despise Bush types.

I'm not sure what point you thought you were making.
post 1697045893 01-27-2024, 05:08 PM
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Originally Posted By Polaris
So...what's your point? Trump supporters, generally despise Bush types.

I'm not sure what point you thought you were making.
Reread the OP.


It's bipartisan, but some of the partisan idiots can't comprehend that.


Also, Trump isn't a immigration hawk like he campaigns on.


He just wants to allow them all through legally, which really doesn't address the underlying issue.


Too many unassimilated immigrants will change the entire makeup of the country.


Allowing unlimited legal migration is stupid. The only solution would at this point be a moratorium, which has no chance of happening.
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post 1697046113 01-27-2024, 05:13 PM
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It's all a show.

It will blow your mind when you figure out who is sitting next to him & what his current job is.

post 1697046173 01-27-2024, 05:14 PM
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[QUOTE=ChewYourFood post_id=1697046113]It's all a show.

It will blow your mind when you figure out who is sitting next to him & what his current job is.

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I noticed that some time ago.


It is government policy to have the border open.
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post 1697046183 01-27-2024, 05:15 PM
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Originally Posted By OPGenesis
Reread the OP.


It's bipartisan, but some of the partisan idiots can't comprehend that.


Also, Trump isn't a immigration hawk like he campaigns on.


He just wants to allow them all through legally, which really doesn't address the underlying issue.


Too many unassimilated immigrants will change the entire makeup of the country.


Allowing unlimited legal migration is stupid. The only solution would at this point be a moratorium, which has no chance of happening.
So, where do we go from here?
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Originally Posted By Polaris
So, where do we go from here?
After Biden? lol.


Nowhere. The damage has been done.


Like I've stated, the illegals just let in in under three years is a population of almost half the states.


And they aren't going anywhere.


And they aren't assimilating either.


I see it everywhere I go.


No efforts to adopt English. Just enclaves that stay attached to their home cultures.


They are just here to collect welfare, work and have a brand new F-150.


Illegals are entering faster than native births.


Even when you look at Trump's numbers. Not stellar, and he lucked out with Covid.
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post 1697046363 01-27-2024, 05:20 PM
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Originally Posted By OPGenesis
Reread the OP.


It's bipartisan, but some of the partisan idiots can't comprehend that.


Also, Trump isn't a immigration hawk like he campaigns on.


He just wants to allow them all through legally, which really doesn't address the underlying issue.


Too many unassimilated immigrants will change the entire makeup of the country.


Allowing unlimited legal migration is stupid. The only solution would at this point be a moratorium, which has no chance of happening.
While I agree that a moratorium is needed, it's not true that Trumpwants to allow them all through legally.


Changes to legal immigration

The Trump administration embraced the Reforming American Immigration for a Strong Economy (RAISE) Act in August 2017. The RAISE Act seeks to reduce levels of legal immigration to the United States by 50% by halving the number of green cards issued. The bill would also impose a cap of 50,000 refugee admissions a year and would end the visa diversity lottery.

On April 22, 2020, President Trump signed an executive order amidst the COVID-19 coronavirus significantly reducing the issuance of green cards to immigrants
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Originally Posted By gwg77
While I agree that a moratorium is needed, it's not true that Trumpwants to allow them all through legally.


Changes to legal immigration

The Trump administration embraced the Reforming American Immigration for a Strong Economy (RAISE) Act in August 2017. The RAISE Act seeks to reduce levels of legal immigration to the United States by 50% by halving the number of green cards issued. The bill would also impose a cap of 50,000 refugee admissions a year and would end the visa diversity lottery.

On April 22, 2020, President Trump signed an executive order amidst the COVID-19 coronavirus significantly reducing the issuance of green cards to immigrants
Was this ever passed though Congress? I'm just going off his words during his SOTU address. He's flip flopped on this issue too many times to count.


Also, what is interesting is the old guard GOP still dominate Congress, who support all this immigration.


Steve Bannon noted that Trump can't do much in the current system, because he has no allies.


I did mention Trump lucked out with Covid emergency measures, or his numbers would have been way worse.
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post 1697046643 01-27-2024, 05:26 PM
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Originally Posted By OPGenesis
Was this ever passed though Congress? I'm just going off his words during his SOTU address. He's flip flopped on this issue too many times to count.


Also, what is interesting is the old guard GOP still dominate Congress, who support all this immigration.


Steve Bannon noted that Trump can't do much in the current system, because he has no allies.


I did mention Trump lucked out with Covid emergency measure, or his numbers would have been way worse.
No, it didn't pass.

The RAISE Act did not receive a vote in the Senate. A separate bill to restrict legal immigration, supported by Trump, Cotton, and Perdue, was defeated in the Senate by a 39–60 vote.

The GOP sucks bro.
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Originally Posted By Polaris
So, where do we go from here?
Indefinitely ban US grants to the Hebrew Immigrant Aid Society along with other NGOs facilitating refugee relocation.

Set up internment camps and stop allowing them to relocate across the country unaccounted for. It would be a fraction of the cost and put them back behind bars where they belong.

The next move after that is to pack them into containers on a C-17 and air drop them either over the ocean or over Israel.
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Originally Posted By OPGenesis
I noticed that some time ago.


It is government policy to have the border open.
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I can't see how Republicans shipping a shyt tonne of immigrants into the US, and blaming it on Biden, wouldn't be beneficial to the GOP in the run up to the election.
Can you?
Just a thought. They'd obviously never use immigrants as pawns in their political games. Right?
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Originally Posted By dakensta
I can't see how Republicans shipping a shyt tonne of immigrants into the US, and blaming it on Biden, wouldn't be beneficial to the GOP in the run up to the election.
Can you?
Just a thought. They'd obviously never use immigrants as pawns in their political games. Right?
We're talking about the theatrics in front of the veil, not the actual moves behind it.
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Right wing politics is the new counter-culture.
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Has Beowulf10 ever experienced true love? Where did he go?
Education is humanity's key to salvation.
The 2nd Cold War has begun.
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Originally Posted By dakensta
I can't see how Republicans shipping a shyt tonne of immigrants into the US, and blaming it on Biden, wouldn't be beneficial to the GOP in the run up to the election.
Can you?
Just a thought. They'd obviously never use immigrants as pawns in their political games. Right?
But who was four straight years of horrified faux outrage and handwringing over poor brown kids in cages?
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Originally Posted By Bushmaster
But who was four straight years of horrified faux outrage and handwringing over poor brown kids in cages?
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