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01-29-2024, 12:30 PM
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How much money is enough for you to say "no" at work?
People talk about "phark you" money. People talk about "paycheck to paycheck" money.
Let's say your boss asks you to do something that makes you super uncomfortable. You've been a yes-man thus far, even for some things that you feel aren't a part of your job description or make you feel super anxious. It could be standing on a stage representing your team, it could be you're tasked with work that's outside of your job but gotta do it because of recent layoffs in other teams. It could be something like being required to go into the office, or even working unpaid overtime and being on-call or something.
Whatever it is, you don't like it. At what point financially do you feel like you're comfortable enough to finally say "not gonna happen," and test the waters of defiance at work?
If I suddenly quit or got let go without any comp, I'd survive around 3 years without having to sell anything, go into debt, withdraw from retirement, etc. That sounds more than sufficient enough to me to get another job at least.
What say you misc?
Let's say your boss asks you to do something that makes you super uncomfortable. You've been a yes-man thus far, even for some things that you feel aren't a part of your job description or make you feel super anxious. It could be standing on a stage representing your team, it could be you're tasked with work that's outside of your job but gotta do it because of recent layoffs in other teams. It could be something like being required to go into the office, or even working unpaid overtime and being on-call or something.
Whatever it is, you don't like it. At what point financially do you feel like you're comfortable enough to finally say "not gonna happen," and test the waters of defiance at work?
If I suddenly quit or got let go without any comp, I'd survive around 3 years without having to sell anything, go into debt, withdraw from retirement, etc. That sounds more than sufficient enough to me to get another job at least.
What say you misc?
01-29-2024, 12:33 PM
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When I was 25 or 26 I told my then boss to go fuk himself and walked out. I had a mortgage, almost no money in the bank, and had not even started looking for another job. Sometimes you got to just stand up and not be a fukboy.
01-29-2024, 12:33 PM
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01-29-2024, 12:35 PM
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$5m, but never been a yes man. I'm more referring to just quitting and not giving a fuk because you can FIRE.
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01-29-2024, 12:46 PM
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I got a mark down on my annual appraisal for saying "no" too much.
These are things that are more "We don't have the capability or the product and the customer is too stupid to listen to recommendations or accept feedback/input/criticism" rather than "do this uncomfortable thing" though.
Was laid off of my last job for refusing to do other people's work.
So you tell me.
These are things that are more "We don't have the capability or the product and the customer is too stupid to listen to recommendations or accept feedback/input/criticism" rather than "do this uncomfortable thing" though.
Was laid off of my last job for refusing to do other people's work.
So you tell me.
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01-29-2024, 01:01 PM
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01-29-2024, 01:03 PM
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You're holding $100k in cash? Why?
01-29-2024, 01:08 PM
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- Lexira
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I said no and a lot more than that at my last position which I have resigned from.
Fast forward after that, stood up in a new position in a different country and after that the cuckboi CEO messaged if I would like to join him again. I gladly told him once more to fuk off in the most polite manner possible.
Had around 2 years worth of living expense and probably a bit more tbh.
Fast forward after that, stood up in a new position in a different country and after that the cuckboi CEO messaged if I would like to join him again. I gladly told him once more to fuk off in the most polite manner possible.
Had around 2 years worth of living expense and probably a bit more tbh.
01-29-2024, 01:12 PM
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Originally Posted By ProudKraut⏩
Nah, like $20k checking as emergency, $75k in non-retirement investments that I'd sell if needed, projecting another $15k coming my way soon from annual bonus.You're holding $100k in cash? Why?
Originally Posted By Lexira⏩
Around how old were you when all that went down? Any dependents too? Crazy story, but definitely an alpha move.I said no and a lot more than that at my last position which I have resigned from.
Fast forward after that, stood up in a new position in a different country and after that the cuckboi CEO messaged if I would like to join him again. I gladly told him once more to fuk off in the most polite manner possible.
Had around 2 years worth of living expense and probably a bit more tbh.
Fast forward after that, stood up in a new position in a different country and after that the cuckboi CEO messaged if I would like to join him again. I gladly told him once more to fuk off in the most polite manner possible.
Had around 2 years worth of living expense and probably a bit more tbh.
01-29-2024, 01:14 PM
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In 2018 I walked away from my position that I had worked so hard to get in the 5 years prior (for several reasons) but had about $10k in the bank, $600/month student loan payment, $450/month truck payment, $1000/month rent, blah blah blah.
It just wasn't worth the stress any more and I knew I was worth more and would find something better.
FF to today....been with this company 5 years, promoted several times, making great money and up until recently they just kept loading chit on...till about 3 months ago when I started saying no & I need help. Since then, my director has been great and they've hired 2 people to put under me to support me and as of March, I'll be getting promoted again. I'm also very open/honest with my director and he knows I'll stay here as long as I feel I'm being treated well/fairly.
But, I guess to answer the question.....I'm to a point in my career at 38, where I know what I'm worth, I know what I'm capable of and I know what I will and wont do and IF I was put in a position where I just could not stay with my current employer, I would have no hesitations about walking and honestly unless I was just flat out paycheck to paycheck, I wouldn't even take finances into account.....but financially I/my family would be fine for years without me working.
It just wasn't worth the stress any more and I knew I was worth more and would find something better.
FF to today....been with this company 5 years, promoted several times, making great money and up until recently they just kept loading chit on...till about 3 months ago when I started saying no & I need help. Since then, my director has been great and they've hired 2 people to put under me to support me and as of March, I'll be getting promoted again. I'm also very open/honest with my director and he knows I'll stay here as long as I feel I'm being treated well/fairly.
But, I guess to answer the question.....I'm to a point in my career at 38, where I know what I'm worth, I know what I'm capable of and I know what I will and wont do and IF I was put in a position where I just could not stay with my current employer, I would have no hesitations about walking and honestly unless I was just flat out paycheck to paycheck, I wouldn't even take finances into account.....but financially I/my family would be fine for years without me working.
01-29-2024, 01:26 PM
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Originally Posted By bsmit107⏩
What position is this?In 2018 I walked away from my position that I had worked so hard to get in the 5 years prior (for several reasons) but had about $10k in the bank, $600/month student loan payment, $450/month truck payment, $1000/month rent, blah blah blah.
It just wasn't worth the stress any more and I knew I was worth more and would find something better.
FF to today....been with this company 5 years, promoted several times, making great money and up until recently they just kept loading chit on...till about 3 months ago when I started saying no & I need help. Since then, my director has been great and they've hired 2 people to put under me to support me and as of March, I'll be getting promoted again. I'm also very open/honest with my director and he knows I'll stay here as long as I feel I'm being treated well/fairly.
But, I guess to answer the question.....I'm to a point in my career at 38, where I know what I'm worth, I know what I'm capable of and I know what I will and wont do and IF I was put in a position where I just could not stay with my current employer, I would have no hesitations about walking and honestly unless I was just flat out paycheck to paycheck, I wouldn't even take finances into account.....but financially I/my family would be fine for years without me working.
It just wasn't worth the stress any more and I knew I was worth more and would find something better.
FF to today....been with this company 5 years, promoted several times, making great money and up until recently they just kept loading chit on...till about 3 months ago when I started saying no & I need help. Since then, my director has been great and they've hired 2 people to put under me to support me and as of March, I'll be getting promoted again. I'm also very open/honest with my director and he knows I'll stay here as long as I feel I'm being treated well/fairly.
But, I guess to answer the question.....I'm to a point in my career at 38, where I know what I'm worth, I know what I'm capable of and I know what I will and wont do and IF I was put in a position where I just could not stay with my current employer, I would have no hesitations about walking and honestly unless I was just flat out paycheck to paycheck, I wouldn't even take finances into account.....but financially I/my family would be fine for years without me working.
01-29-2024, 01:37 PM
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Id say if I had about 6 months of expenses liquid I would say no fuk you I quit if the task was bad. I'm not even looking for another job right now but I get recruiters calling me regularly so obviously there would be options out there for me. Sad how employers never see that and act accordingly
01-29-2024, 01:38 PM
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Originally Posted By AnaboLecter⏩
Assuming you're talking about the one I walked away from......Public Works Manager for a smallish city. Managing 80 people, 5 departments, 103 pieces of equipment, 240miles of ROW, 4 parks & the city put on 4 events/festivals a year I had to lead.....it just got to be too much and the last straw was we were getting complaints from the citizens about several things and we needed a couple pieces of equipment and a few more guys and not only was I denied the equipment & new hires, the City Manager cut my yearly budget by about 20% and put out an article in the local paper saying that the PW Department was going through a "transitional period" being under new management and asked the citizens to be patient with the "young, new manager" while he finds his groove.What position is this?
01-29-2024, 01:55 PM
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Originally Posted By Visel⏩
No dependents, thankfully. If I had children, I am not sure if I would pull such a move. I just have my old parents that I spend for their care..etcAround how old were you when all that went down? Any dependents too? Crazy story, but definitely an alpha move.
01-29-2024, 02:01 PM
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01-29-2024, 02:02 PM
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Basically $0 + the confidence I will get hired somewhere else which I have because I will
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