Will there even be an xbox console after the next generation?


boxcels gonna have to buy a sony console to play their xbox titles or a pc since MS gonna go balls deep on gamepass and being a service/software driven company instead.

In all fairness, Xbox has been moving in this direction since the creation of GamePass, a focus on GamePass subscribers above all else. Only questions remain or how they handle "exclusivity" and their commitment to hardware as time goes on.

The only barrier that they have is convincing ninty and sony to allow gamepass, but that would never happen. So seems like the strategy might be to release these games on other consoles down the line.


Starfield for PS5 Pro or PS6 should be a system seller.

This will likely be my last xbox console if it’s the direction they move, and I won’t believe them if they say it’s just a couple titles. They previously said their first party games would only be on places where game pass exists, which for consoles would just be Xbox.

Good luck on their future software endeavors, I think they will be successful, but this will long term kill their console business and they’ll be third party.

damn do I have to go back to being a Sonycel?

Been calling it on how the console market just isn't what it used to be, PC has been dominating and only gaining marketshare while consoles continue to lose popularity. If there is anything Microsoft knows, it's how to make money and moneymaxx hard. They pretty much have a monopoly on the PC gaming market, with Steam's Linux Proton support pretty much being the only real competition there. Outside of that smartphones have been dominating the gaming market, pretty much accounting for half of the money there.

The old days and the old approach to console platforms are basically over, this generation is pretty much marking the end of that with all the PC devices serving as gaming platforms themselves. Where do consoles like the Series X/S, PS5, and Switch stand? Well I guess you can suggest they need to carve out a niche for themselves, because trying to compete with exclusive games alone just isn't doing it when it comes to industry revenues. It's really just an outdated, old world way of looking at competition in the industry, favored by outsiders and fan groups on the internet.

The biggest question in the gaming industry today has been "how can we compete more with mobile" and everything regarding the fiscal success there. PC manages to cash in on that with its open internet and platform access as well as the wide variety of devices that can use its dominant platforms. Nintendo has managed to carve out a niche for themselves as a hybrid platform and dedicated low cost/powered handheld gaming platform, where a set standard for hardware performance and ease of use is its big selling point. I guess you could say Sony and Microsoft are offering the dedicated home offerings with that same selling point, but clearly they have both taken a different approach.

One thing to keep in mind is how unlike Sony, Microsoft still has a computer hardware division. Considering how Surface basically serves as Microsoft's hardware for ease of use and general computer access, it would only make sense to integrate Xbox hardware into serving a similar need. Xbox has already become an integrated part of Windows, with the Xbox controller having native support and basically serving as the default controller for PC gaming, and the Xbox app being a part of the modern Windows gaming experience, offering games and services that work across both the PC and Xbox platforms.

So how can a company like Microsoft justify being a part of something like game consoles anymore? Simple, make the hardware a part of your existing hardware division in a sense by tying it, just hardware sales to go along with software sales and usage. It's business, and the whole idea is to make money. Surface hardware isn't centered or marketed around gaming while Xbox hardware clearly is. So the end concept is simple: Surface devices for basic computer use, Xbox hardware for gaming use. Even the way the Series X/S is setup reflects that, with an "S" console for different markets that something like a Series X or PS5 wouldn't appeal to or sell well in. Heck with their talk of having a dedicated handheld before long, the S software requirement made it a lot easier for games to also work on a handheld. I could see them offering some sort of Surface Xbox tablet device with Xbox controls that could handle native Series S gaming.

I have said this before, but nobody plays Xbox or PC anymore. Almost all gaming fans now are Sonycels or Nintendocels. Been like this since i quit gaming back in the Halo 3 and COD 4 days. It would seriously not surprise me if they just become 3rd party.

What nobody is mentioning is that:

Microsoft will also fail at software sales. What Xbox games do people want to play? Halo, gears, forza are old and tired. Looking at Microsoft's history, they can't make good games, they don't give developers any freedom. Theyd have to buy studios, but looking at EA, that means jack ****. The studios that are for sale have zero talent because the passionate designers left elsewhere

Software sales still requires good games and Microsoft doesn't have it.

A PC that can run PS5 games is like $1200 minimum, not to mention dealing with various settings. It's understandable why most folks don't want a PC.

Yes, but keep in mind online multiplayer is free on PC and the games are wayyyyy cheaper than console. If you are even a moderate gamer you will make up for it in a year just buying a PC.

You don't have to buy a $1,200 one right away either you can get a great 1080p rig for $600-700 new on sale.

Jesus Christ my PC monitors alone each cost more than that.

I think that just shows off the difference between gaming sites/forums and the greater gaming audience. Like you hardly hear anyone talk about mobile yet it accounts for about half of the industry's total revenue. PC right now accounts for about as much as the console industry in total. Most forum fanboys are just a very loud minority in their own little worlds.

You're forgetting that gamers want the best graphics for cheap. You lost them at the $700 price tag. You made them laugh at the 1080p specs

But who was Minecraft and cod all the blizzard crap they just bought

There is no way there's more PC players than Ps5 and Switch. More people might have a steam account or some kind of GPU in their computer but it isn't the same.

Haven't met an Xboxcel irl since like 2007 srs

1080p is fine for desktop use until you upgrade. You can either run 1080p 120 fps or 1440p 60 fps.

Found this guy:



Lmfao it truly takes someone like Jay to write a novel on how this is actually a win for Xbox while the other 99.999% of Xcels are crying right now because they rightfully see the writing on the wall.

99% of gaming forum users appear to be retarded so I'd be happy to be a part of the other 1%.

Read it and weep:



PC gaming makes one and a half times as much money as the console market combined. Mobile is making more than both markets combined. Gaming sites and forums are full of out of touch dinosaurs.

This type of thinking is exactly why Microsoft is in the situation they are.

I would say you're only hurting yourself, but with Microsoft going way of the do do, Sony won't have REAL competition

Profit doesn't necessarily mean a huge player base. NBA 2k makes more money than most games despite having a small player base. Microtransactions make up a huge percentage of sales

Subscriptioncels killing their own platform without even realizing it

Not that many people actually play on steam though. I have like 70 steam games and rarely play them. Top steam game might have 100k players. Consoles have millions.

There are more people playing Horizon Forbidden West than people playing steam I guarantee it

It seems like only Sonycels are surprised about this. Anyone with a brain knew this was coming lol.

You mean you haven't met anyone irl since 2007.

Lol

Adding all the parts up is actually $720. And even then you need to crank all the settings to low to scrape 1440p. A PS5 absolutely mogs this, especially since console versions of games are far better optimized. Also consider that in a few months the PS5 pro is out, for less than $720 and will completely obliterate it.

The 5700 plays almost any game at 1440p medium-high 60 fps. It would look absolutely beautiful on a 27'' 1440p monitor with HDR. Or you could drop the settings a bit and get 1440p 80-100 fps it's worth it.

Yeah but i could just buy a PS5 Pro for less and get twice the performance.